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Indian lie about showing 2 retired Pak Army officers as serving majors to Interpol st

India could lie but not the Interpol!!!! Those made the reports didn't signify these...

1) How and why 39 and 46 years old can 'retire' from the Army???
2) If they retired than it must be after 26/11.




Interpol now have a pic of HASHIM, Syed Abdur Rehman....

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Images/photo/original/2010/09/10/54496310.jpg



Pakistan hands them over or not but to be on Interpol wanted list is more than enough. :)
I know a guy who is 26 and is retired from Air force.......Age really doesn't matter... A guy can ask for retirement whenever he wants and if approved he is considered retired....
 
Be careful what you wish for my friend.

I would be very very afraid of awakening a sleeping giant if I were you.

Not a wish You really don't want to know my wish list.... it's perhaps a free advise n it is true u don't think people who ran wild in mumbia on 26/11 are not planing for a 2nd strike just be prepared all m asking
 
I know a guy who is 26 and is retired from Air force.......Age really doesn't matter... A guy can ask for retirement whenever he wants and if approved he is considered retired....

And they asked for right Headly started singing like a canary....
 
Not a wish You really don't want to know my wish list.... it's perhaps a free advise n it is true u don't think people who ran wild in mumbia on 26/11 are not planing for a 2nd strike just be prepared all m asking

We are prepared for any eventuality.

At most what will happen?

We will lose a few (100, 200, 1000) lives...that's it?

We will mourn the loss of our dear ones and then move on to...

And when we move on, Think what will the perpetrators lose...

That's why I said, I'd be very very afraid of rousing a sleeping giant out of his sleep if I were you.

P.S. Read between the lines.
 
And Mumbai is in Washington DC thats why bhartis are waiting for handover of these to US
 
Of course, they 'retire' before they start working for non state actors. Thats standard OP, is it not???

We have caught other Pakistani army people in JK too, they were also 'retired'. The plausible deniability bit is just normal precaution by Pakistani agencies, and Pakistanis can pretend to think they exposed India's lie, but the truth is it does not mean anything. Its pretty normal in Pakistan it seems for young officers to 'retire' and join terrorists. When officers are transferred to covert ops, ofcourse theyr 'retire' on paper.

And to think the payback is happening in courts is just naive.
 
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Is the world and the Interpol so foolish to me mislead by these evil Bhartis or the Pakistani posters here being mislead by their media.?

I think the second option is the more plausible one.:agree:
 
Is the world and the Interpol so foolish to me mislead by these evil Bhartis or the Pakistani posters here being mislead by their media.?

I think the second option is the more plausible one.:agree:

Prove that they aren't retired and are a serving officers. Even though nothing has been proved against them.

Or you are assuming that PA is lying and they are serving officers.

If this is the case than your assumptions aren't worthy enough to be discussed.
 
Prove that they aren't retired and are a serving officers. Even though nothing has been proved against them.

Or you are assuming that PA is lying and they are serving officers.

If this is the case than your assumptions aren't worthy enough to be discussed.

So the whole world and interpol have been fooled by the Indians.God I didn know we had such capabillity.:cheesy:

Also can you prove that they had not been "forcefully retired" after these allegations came out.?

Or this is just a temporary hiatus for the ruckus to die down and after some time job goes as usual. for them ?

See even I can think of many possibilities.Cant the PA think of one.?
 
And they asked for right Headly started singing like a canary....
Yeah right..Just because you think it happens like this doesn't mean it is the truth. We don't know when they took retirement, you are assuming something and calling it a fact...

And do i have to repeat again that no one in covert ops reveal their true identity. So how can you expect two Pakistani officer as you are assuming were serving PA at that time revealed their ranks and names to a pawn.
 
So the whole world and interpol have been fooled by the Indians.God I didn know we had such capabillity.:cheesy:

Also can you prove that they had not been "forcefully retired" after these allegations came out.?

Or this is just a temporary hiatus for the ruckus to die down and after some time job goes as usual. for them ?

See even I can think of many possibilities.Cant the PA think of one.?
The warrant is issued by court in India.

Also you are blaming on them so its your duty to prove that they are guilty. Not ours to prove they retired forcefully or whatever...
 
So the whole world and interpol have been fooled by the Indians.God I didn know we had such capabillity.:cheesy:

You have many capabilities. Can't mention all of them. Not an appropriate place to discuss them. ;)

Also can you prove that they had not been "forcefully retired" after these allegations came out.?

Or can you prove me that they were forced to retire after 26/11 drama allegations. Or can you prove me that PA is lying and they aren't retired but serving officers. Choose your option and provide us the proof. You are the one who is accusing here so it is your job to provide us with proofs.

Or this is just a temporary hiatus for the ruckus to die down and after some time job goes as usual. for them ?

It is a fact, if you don't agree with it. Refute it with proofs.

See even I can think of many possibilities.Cant the PA think of one.?

OK. But we care about what PA says not you. So sorry we can't listen to your possibilities.

:cool:
 
IIts pretty normal in Pakistan it seems for young officers to 'retire' and join terrorists.

And in Indian case the Indian army officers even dont bother to get retired before joining Hindu terrorist outfits


India: Hindu supremacist terror network had ties to military
By Kranti Kumara and Keith Jones
27 November 2008


The police investigation into the synchronised September 29 bombing attacks in Malegaon, a city in the west Indian state of Maharashtra, and Madosa, in the neighbouring state of Gujarat, has rattled India’s political establishment.


The police have thus far arrested 11 people, while indicating that others, potentially many others, may yet be implicated in what they have termed an “extensive” Hindu-extremist terror network.



The arrested include a lieutenant colonel attached to the Indian Army’s Military Intelligence Corps and a retired army major. Two of the suspects, a Hindu sadhu (holy man) and a sadhvi (holy woman), have long-standing and extensive contacts with prominent politicians and businessmen. All of the alleged principals in the bombing plot have ties to one or more of India’s major “Hindu-nationalist” organisations: the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), the official opposition in India’s parliament, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP, World Hindu Council), and the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh or RSS.


The police have said that they are investigating whether those arrested, or their as-yet-unidentified associates, are responsible for other terrorist atrocities, including the 2007 Samjhuata train bombing, which killed 68 people, most of them Pakistanis, travelling to Pakistan from India.


The Malegaon bombing killed 5 Muslims and injured more than 80 others, while the Madosa bombing resulted in one death.


Although the September 29 bombings clearly targeted Muslims—they were set off near mosques—the police and press immediately blamed them on Islamicist terrorists, and a number of Muslims were subsequently caught up in a police dragnet.



But less than two weeks later, the Maharashtra state Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) said it had uncovered evidence that the bombing attacks were carried out by Hindu extremists and made the first in a series of arrests. Initially, the ATS named the sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur, who was long active in the BJP’s student movement, as the mastermind of the plot.


Later, the ATS arrested Lieutenant Colonel Srikant Purohit. He is now said to have led the terrorist cell that carried out the Malegaon bombing. He is alleged to have given military training to the other suspects and, even more importantly, to have provided them with the military-grade explosive RDX.


Purohit and retired army Major Samir Kulkarniand, who also helped train the alleged bombers, are reputed to be the co-founders of Abhinav Bharat (AB, Young India Society)—a fanatical Hindu-supremacist organisation established in 2006 ostensibly to defend Hindus and fight against their “oppression.”


RDX was used in the Malegaon bombings and several other recent terrorist atrocities in India. Since RDX is very difficult to obtain, its use has been cited by Indian authorities, until now, as proof that those perpetrating the bombings must be from Islamicist organisations with ties to Pakistani or Bangladeshi military-intelligence agencies.



Purohit’s arrest has shaken India’s military high command. It has rushed to dismiss him as a single rogue officer. But there have been repeated media reports suggesting several other current army officers have been implicated in the terrorist plot.


Monday’s Indian Express reported that Purohit has implicated a serving Indian Army colonel, and a television broadcast, later that same day, claimed five army officers are being investigated for their links with the Abhinav Bharat.


The November 12 arrest of a self-styled Hindu sadhu named Dayanand Pandey has also caused considerable disquiet in the Indian establishment.


In pleading yesterday for a Mumbai court to authorise the continued detention and interrogation of Pandey, a government lawyer said that police have recovered evidence from Pandey’s laptop showing he had several meetings with Sadhvi Thakur and Lt. Col. Purohit shortly before the September 29 bombings. Special Prosecutor Rohini Salian claimed that in a video clip on Pandey’s computer, he, “Sadhvi, Purohit and other persons, whose name cannot be disclosed, are seen talking about RDX, chemicals, hand grenades and training."

The head of a shrine in Kashmir, Pandey was, according to news reports, frequently visited by high-profile politicians and businessmen.

The exposure of a Hindu-supremacist terrorist network has thrown the BJP and its allies in the Sangh Parivar, a “family” of organisations historically led by the RSS, into crisis.

Initially, the BJP tried to distance itself from the sadhvi Thakur, but very quickly this gave way to a campaign aimed at discrediting and derailing the police investigation.

The BJP has long hailed the ATS, denouncing as traitors anyone who questioned, let alone criticised, its actions, including its frequent use of mass arrests. India’s official opposition has also repeatedly attacked India’s Congress Party-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government for rescinding the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA), which among other things placed the burden of proof in terrorist cases on the accused.

But in recent weeks, the BJP has suddenly found much wrong with the ATS. The BJP has suggested that, under pressure from the government, it is targeting Hindu holy people and other Hindus, demanded that it immediately provide proof against the accused or let them go, and trumpeted claims by Purohit and his associates that the police have tortured them.

Bal Thackeray, the supremo of the Shiv Sena, a longtime ally of the BJP, has forthrightly accused the ATS of framing the Malegaon bombing accused. But he also said that if they did orchestrate the bombings, they should be defended because such murderous attacks on Muslims are justified.

Campaigning yesterday in Delhi, where state elections are soon to be held, the BJP chief minister of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, accused the Congress of maligning the military by imputing that it is involved in terrorist activities. "What Pakistan was not able to do in the last 20 years,” declared Modi, “the Manmohan Singh government has achieved in just 20 days. They have succeeded in branding our soldiers as terrorists."

The exposure of a Hindu-supremacist terror network is extremely damaging for the BJP not just because some of the accused have long-standing ties to the BJP and/or its sister Hindu-supremacist organisations.


The BJP has long made clear that it intends to place at the centre of its campaign in the next national election, which must be held in the first half of 2009, the spurious charge that the Congress is “soft” on terrorism. For years, the BJP has claimed that the UPA government will not “crack down” on terrorism because of “vote bank politics”—that is, its alleged fear of alienating Muslim voters.

Nor can it be ruled out that prominent cadres of one or more of the major Hindu supremacist organisations could themselves be implicated in the Hindu terrorist network. The VHP, RSS, and BJP all have a long and bloody record of inciting violence against India’s religious minorities.

The Indian Express claimed earlier this week that Lt. Col. Purohit told India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) that VHP General Secretary Pravin Togadia was instrumental in founding the Abhinav Bharat.


The government has responded to the Hindu right’s vehement campaign in defence of the accused in the Maleagon bombing with a series of conciliatory gestures. After BJP prime ministerial candidate L.K. Advani charged that the sadhvi Thakur had been “physically and psychologically tortured” by police, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh arranged for Advani to receive a briefing from National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan.

In a further attempt to get the BJP-RSS leader “on side,” police have reportedly revealed to them that Purohit’s group had plans to assassinate one or more senior RSS leaders.

This could well be true. The Hindu right is a toxic and highly unstable political movement. In recent years, the RSS and BJP, many of whose senior leaders, Advani included, are lifelong RSS activists, have been criticised, with increasing vehemence, by fellow Hindu supremacists, including the VHP leadership. The BJP, for example, has been chastised for not more aggressively pursuing key Hindutva causes, including the building of a Hindu temple at the site of the razed Babri Masjid mosque in Ayodhya and eliminating Kashmir’s special constitutional status, when it led a national coalition government from 1998 to 2004.


If the Malaegon bombers did plot to assassinate RSS leaders it would have been with a double purpose, with the aim of eliminating “traitors” to Hindutva and providing a pretext for inciting violence against Muslims, since such an attack would invariably have been blamed on “Muslim extremists.
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India’s corporate media and political and military-security establishments have expressed shock at the phenomenon of Hindu-supremacist terrorism.


But this is only because they have been willfully blind.


Willfully blind because it has served their ends to present the problem of terrorism in India as exclusively “foreign-born” and blind because they do not want to acknowledge the extent to which the “world’s largest democracy” has given rise to an aggressive Hindu communalism, in which fascist elements flourish, and their own complicity in this process.


Evidence of the existence of Hindu-supremacist terrorists significantly predates the events of September 29.


In April 2006, two leaders of the VHP’s youth movement, the Bajrang Dal, were killed when a bomb they were building exploded in Nanded, a city in southeastern Maharashtra. Four others injured in that explosion later told authorities that the dead had been responsible for a series of bomb blasts in 2003 and 2004.


In 2007, a further explosion in Nanded killed two people including a Shiv Sena activist.


The Times of India, in a report published November 8, said that at the time of the first Nanded explosion, police were provided evidence of the extensive involvement of retired military and Intelligence Bureau personnel in training Hindu extremists, but these ties were not aggressively investigated.


Even more importantly, there is the long record of Hindutvite-led and inspired mass violence against religious minorities—violence that has repeatedly demonstrated the Hindu supremacists’ willingness and ability to perpetrate murder and terror. To mention only the two most notorious examples: the 1992 razing of the Babri Majid mosque, which led to the worst communal rioting since the 1947 partition of India, and the 2002 anti-Muslim pogrom in Gujarat, which killed some 2,000 and left a further 100,000 homeless.



India: Hindu supremacist terror network had ties to military
 
And in Indian case the Indian army officers even dont bother to get retired before joining Hindu terrorist outfits

Off topic as always, but I'll answer that. Its SO obvious that you missed it.

Since purohit acted alone he was not 'retired' on paper, on the other hand he was caught by Indian police without the whole world having to shame us and twist our arms real hard. If purohit was doing govt's work, he would not be in jail today being tried by civilian courts.

Hence Purohits case is a case of a rogue officer and India is dealing with it in a legal way, but you are just shielding mass murderers and killers and that has been your national policy for the past 25 years.

Give up this terrorist policy, its not working for you. Read the newspapers.
 
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Off topic as always, but I'll answer that. Its SO obvious that you missed it.

Since purohit acted alone he was not 'retired' on paper,
on the other hand he was caught by Indian police without the whole world having to shame us and twist our arms real hard. Is purohit was doing govt's work, he would not be in jail today being tried by civilian courts.

Hence Purohits case is a case of a rogue Indian Army officer and India is dealing with it in a legal way, but you are just shielding mass murderers and killers and that has been your national policy for the past 25 years.

Give up this terrorist policy, its not working for you. Read the newspapers.

:lol: You forgot to put Indian Army Rouge officer so i corrected it by putting in Red.

Its so obvious Indian Army has rogue elements too so better clean your yard before jumping to spread propaganda against others.

and it was so much ON TOPIC since you issued a statement without proof saying young officers in Pakistan army get retired to join terrorist BUT you forgot that Indian officers even dont bother to get retired to join Hindu terrorists.
 
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