Indian hostage sailors appeal for release

[illusion8]

don't post exercise pictures to prove anything.

Those look like exercises to you?? so we hired Somali's to take part in our exercises

Indian Navy: 61 Somali pirates caught | NDTV.com
Indian Navy foils Somali Pirates - YouTube
IMB hails Navy action against Somali pirates - Indian Express
Indian Navy succeeds in pushing back pirates - Times Of India
The Hindu : News / National : Navy foils Somali pirate attack off Gulf of Aden

 

[manojb]

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Last time it took a Pakistani citizen to save the Indian's neck from the Somali pirates, we never hear the end of India's booming economy and Forex reserves and the billions being spent on weapons but it takes Pakistan to come to Indians's rescue. And where are all those Ambanis, Malyas and Prem Jis the Indians feel so proud of.

Ambanis are in Mumbai,
Malya is in either scotland or bangaluru, since his airline is under he may be back in bangaluru
Premji is also in Bangaluru, kormangala to be precise unless he moved out!

@news , Ship owners have paid in full ransom. pirates want 100 prisoners shown above to be released which Indian govt is not agreeing.

 

[lkozhi]

Indian sailors taken hostage by Somali pirates appeal for release

PTI | Oct 6, 2012, 02.09PM IST

NEW DELHI: A group of sailors taken hostage by Somali pirates nearly two years ago have appealed to the government to get them released from captivity.

The video appeal by the sailors, who were earlier kept hostage by the pirates onboard merchant vessel MV Asphalt Venture, has surfaced on the internet.

In the appeal, chief engineer Bahadur Singh said their health was deteriorating. "We are fed up. We are mentally tensed all the time. Our health is not good. Please save us," he said.

The sailors' families have also appealed to the government.

Singh said the pirates have brought the ship to Somalia and they were in captivity for the past 22 months.

"They have released the ship and now we are in their custody. Our owner had fulfilled their demands but they caught seven of us and brought us to the land.

"Our condition is very bad. I don't know what action is the government taking...We are requesting President (Pranab Mukherjee), Prime Minister (Manmohan Singh) and UPA chief Sonia Gandhi and Opposition Leader Sushma Swaraj to please save us.

"We want our lives, please help us, please save us," he said.

The Times of India - Indian Newspapers in English Language from six editions.

Last time it took a Pakistani citizen to save the Indian's neck from the Somali pirates, we never hear the end of India's booming economy and Forex reserves and the billions being spent on weapons but it takes Pakistan to come to Indians's rescue. And where are all those Ambanis, Malyas and Prem Jis the Indians feel so proud of.

Sorry we dont have that many contacts with pirates and terrorists as pakistan do...
Also BCCI is not working anymore so pirate bank also not working so only cash deals nowadays.
We know where these funds go.
Hope these ships are allowed carry its own security forces. That is the only solution.

 

[solkahn]

Wow pirates and terrorists
What about the State terrorism in INDIAN OCCUPIED Kashmir
I wonder where is the mighty INDIAN NAVY that cant even protect its citizens, probably trying to kick start Aircraft carrier INS VIKY

 

[solkahn]

As far as the BCCI is concerned it was two,three decades ago owned by a non state actor Pakistan has nothing to do with that
Now i think those pirates would not have been even born at that time Hah time waist-er Indians

 

[KRAIT]

One simple question. We have hundreds of thousands of soldiers and at relatively small area and faster to access on LAND. Still we are facing terrorist attacks, suicide bombing kidnapping of soldiers and beheading them.

Now come to Arabian Sea which is way more larger in size and ships can travel at few knots. It is very hard to escort every ship, which we can't do, and response time of taking over of ships by Pirates IF the captain sends SOS message, will be very high.

What does this comparison says ?

You can't just send an airplane to drop a bomb on hijacked ship to get rid of terrorist. You need ships with soldiers.

There is very small window to execute these rescues.

Now tell me, if it too sea to patrol entire Arabian sea, IOR and at the same time protecting vital shipping lanes like Strait of Homuraz, and keeping tabs on other countries' navy movement etc.

Having said that, I admit its Indian govt.s fault that they couldn't get these sailors back. Govt. is responsible for security of its citizens. People saying that it wasn't govt. job, so next time someone kidnap a person, govt. shouldn't take action. Also govt. shouldn't have allowed to let pirates whatever they want, it sends a wrong message and enables more piracy attempts.

Also, next time talk more technically than emotionally,

 

[Marwari]

Wow pirates and terrorists
What about the State terrorism in INDIAN OCCUPIED Kashmir
I wonder where is the mighty INDIAN NAVY that cant even protect its citizens, probably trying to kick start Aircraft carrier INS VIKY

At least we have an AC on the way.. two actually, Mehran base attack anyone?

 

[Hyperion]

Last time it took a Pakistani citizen to save the Indian's neck from the Somali pirates, we never hear the end of India's booming economy and Forex reserves and the billions being spent on weapons but it takes Pakistan to come to Indians's rescue. And where are all those Ambanis, Malyas and Prem Jis the Indians feel so proud of.

Windy mate, maybe they don't want to negotiate with terrorists as readily as sometimes we like to? Nothing good ever came out of such things. Think about it, if we had slit the throat of the mullahs (and their children and grand children, cousins, relatives) when TTP shi* started, instead of negotiating and appeasing them (in the very beginning), do you think they would have grown to what they are now? I don't think so!

 

[livingdead]

India govt (like many govts) have policy of not paying ransom(at least openly). It has been argued that the ransom one pays to pirates ensures the pirate economy and makes more pirates from somalians. These are not some blood thirsty rapist murderers. These are normal people who have used hijacking as a cottage industry because there is money in it.

It does not stop private charity organizations getting involved, but these organizations should not be rich (it will promote piracy indirectly) and there should be proper negotiations.
And no, Ambanis and tatas never should get involved, it will ensure more hijacking and demands targetted against Indians not less.

 

[Tshering22]

its not the govt job to do this . they have no mandate to do so . the owner of the vessel has to pay the ransom . the company is an Indian company , they should be the ones to clear this due . but they have refused to do so . they instead just want to sit back and let these sailors rot . The sailors then had no other option but to approach the govt .

the govt too has its own limitations. if they do negotiate with the pirates and pay they set a bad precedence . more Indian vessels will be targeted that way .

How about sending commandos to rescue the sailors?

What would you do if your brother was one of the sailors?

Company will clear it but pirates ask for exorbitant amounts.

What does the state do when someone kidnaps someone? Send in the police right? THat's the standard procedure.

Then how are you talking like this?

This human rights bullshyte should be thrown out of the window and all the pirates should be shot dead in cold blood. Make a video of a brutal shooting session and have it circulated.

After that there won't be any attack on any Indian merchant ship.

India govt (like many govts) have policy of not paying ransom(at least openly). It has been argued that the ransom one pays to pirates ensures the pirate economy and makes more pirates from somalians. These are not some blood thirsty rapist murderers. These are normal people who have used hijacking as a cottage industry because there is money in it.

It does not stop private charity organizations getting involved, but these organizations should not be rich (it will promote piracy indirectly) and there should be proper negotiations.
And no, Ambanis and tatas never should get involved, it will ensure more hijacking and demands targetted against Indians not less.

You're a weird guy, mate.


Technically even terrorists are normal people who receive arms and sabotage training to disrupt some target group or organization or country.

Then why maintain any armed forces or police at all? Or even lock your doors?

Just let the robbers do their job as it is their cottage industry as it is "their business".

 

[ajtr]

Windy mate, maybe they don't want to negotiate with terrorists as readily as sometimes we like to? Nothing good ever came out of such things. Think about it, if we had slit the throat of the mullahs (and their children and grand children, cousins, relatives) when TTP shi* started, instead of negotiating and appeasing them (in the very beginning), do you think they would have grown to what they are now? I don't think so!

Thats the policy India adopted after IC-814 hijacking by pakistani terrorists...Ie no negotiations with hostage takers in any circumstances.But then GoI is at fault here by taking pirates as prisoners.I think GoI need a jolt of 1999 type hijacking every decade to wake it up from its slumber to formulate policies otherwise these GoI babus(clerks, unfortunately our present PM is also a babu type) are happy at doing paper pushing work only 9 to 5 every day..........

To deal with pirate GoI has only one way to deal with them ie to execute each one of them at the high seas instead of taking them as prisoners.

 

[Ticker]

its not the govt job to do this . they have no mandate to do so . the owner of the vessel has to pay the ransom . the company is an Indian company , they should be the ones to clear this due . but they have refused to do so . they instead just want to sit back and let these sailors rot . The sailors then had no other option but to approach the govt .

the govt too has its own limitations. if they do negotiate with the pirates and pay they set a bad precedence . more Indian vessels will be targeted that way .

Where is Indian Navy, MARCOS, Aircraft Carriers, Frigates, Destroyers, Helo-laden Ships, Satellites which could locate a Golf Ball on earth from 36000 km, SFs, Nuclear Submarines with Cruise Missiles, LRMPs, SU-30 MKIs, Troop Carrying LSTs, C130s, Para SFs.

Are these Indians or Indian minorities - hmmm that may be the reason, minorities.

 

[ajtr]

How about sending commandos to rescue the sailors?

sorry our commandos are busy providing each ViP security cover.they are not for common man.they are for their political masters only.

What would you do if your brother was one of the sailors?

i'll say Inna Lillahi Wa inna ilayhi raji'oon
Coz i dont have any hope that GoI has hany spine to save my brother.

Company will clear it but pirates ask for exorbitant amounts.

no its not about the ransom any more .its about the activities of IN which seriously started denting the piracy business in IOR.unfortunately indians jump up to high after every pirate operation and publish it up every where like ad for their 5 sc fame in media thus bringing danger to indian sailors' lives.Piraten will make sure that lesson be taught to GOI in any case by harming indians at high sea.IN cant protect every sailor at high sea working for various international shiping companies.Above all GoI dont even has a concrete policy towards piracy .and they dream of dominating the IOR by sitting on the eggs in north block.

What does the state do when someone kidnaps someone? Send in the police right? THat's the standard procedure.

Your armed forces didn't have it in you to pull off that kind of operation Last time you tried in srilanka your IPKF got whooped by the rag tag LTTE same like taliban whooping americans in afghanistan.More over every leader of yours is spineless.Put some woman in north block she will teach indian man how to grow spine.

Then how are you talking like this?

This human rights bullshyte should be thrown out of the window and all the pirates should be shot dead in cold blood. Make a video of a brutal shooting session and have it circulated.

sure you can do it but for that your leaders need spine that they are not born with.

After that there won't be any attack on any Indian merchant ship.

There will always be attacks.its a war of attrition.you kill their they will kill yours.

Technically even terrorists are normal people who receive arms and sabotage training to disrupt some target group or organization or country.

none are normal not neither you nor i nor the terrorists.speak the language in which people can understand you better

Then why maintain any armed forces or police at all? Or even lock your doors?

to sweep the floors of their masters in lutyens.

Just let the robbers do their job as it is their cottage industry as it is "their business".

destroy the root destroy the indusry.btw most of ransom funds pass through uk.that says a lot which country earns its commissions from piracy business.yeah its uk .

Where is Indian Navy, MARCOS, Aircraft Carriers, Frigates, Destroyers, Helo-laden Ships, Satellites which could locate a Golf Ball on earth from 36000 km, SFs, Nuclear Submarines with Cruise Missiles, LRMPs, SU-30 MKIs, Troop Carrying LSTs, C130s, Para SFs.

Are these Indians or Indian minorities - hmmm that may be the reason, minorities.

they are sweeping the floors of their masters in lutynes

 

[Ticker]

Where is India's power projection capability.

 

[ajtr]

Where is India's power projection capability.

Wait another 3 months you will see them all doing marchpast at janpath on republic day.

hopepully zainab will be born before that annual nautanki takes place