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By Web Desk on August 22, 2015
India on Friday escaped from the route of negotiations table by cancelling National Security Adviser (NSA)-level talks with Pakistan after Islamabad turned down an Indian advice for declining a meeting of Hurriyat leaders, local media reported Friday.

Addressing a press conference, Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Vikas Swarap said that India has always maintained there are only two stakeholders in our relationship not three, hinting at Pakistan’s engagement with the leadership of freedom struggle.

“In Ufa both PMs agreed on a meeting of NSAs to discuss all issues connected to terrorism. Instead we saw a sharp increase in unprovoked firing from Pakistan side and some serious cross border terror incidents. India remains committed to discussing issues with Pakistan bilaterally and peacefully,” Swaroop was quoted as saying by ANI.

He further added, “the statement by Pakistan government on NSA level talks with India has not come as a surprise for us. Pakistan’s position indicates reluctance to go forward.”

According to Indian Media, Indian government called off dialogues because Pakistan had rejected its demand to not meet Hurriyat Conference leaders during National Security Advisor Sartaj Aziz’s visit to India.-NNI

BR Stff Reporter from Islamabad adds: “We are deeply disappointed at the statement of the Spokesperson of India’s Ministry of External Affairs, putting forth pre-conditions for official talks to take place with Pakistan at the level of the National Security Advisors,” said a Pakistani Foreign Office statement.

These talks, which were scheduled to take place on 23 and 24 August, flowed from a decision taken by the two Prime Ministers on 10 July, in the Russian city of Ufa, it added.

However, it was not confirmed whether or not the NSAs-level talks will be held. When contacted the Foreign Office spokesperson Qazi Khalilullah refused to confirm or deny the cancellation of the dialogue, saying the official stance has been issued by the Foreign Office in the statement.

Asked whether New Delhi officially conveyed about cancellation of the talks, he expressed his inability to add anything further, saying the official statement is final. According to the statement, this is the second time that India has chosen to go back on a decision mutually agreed upon by the two Prime Ministers, to engage in a comprehensive dialogue, by coming up with frivolous pretexts.

“Tension between the two countries had increased alarmingly as a result of frequent violations on the Line of Control and Working Boundary, in the past few months. The need of the hour was for the two countries to engage in sincere and serious dialogue to immediately reduce tensions and to undertake the task of normalisation of relations, with sincerity and seriousness,” the statement said.

It stated that the Pakistan High Commissioner’s invitation to the Kashmiri Hurriyat leadership to a reception in honour of the Adviser on 23 August was very much in keeping with the practice and tradition of the past many years. “Pakistan sees no reason to depart from this established practice.

After all, the Kashmiri Hurriyat leaders are genuine stakeholders in efforts to find a lasting solution to the Kashmir dispute,” it said.

“For India to refuse to engage in talks with Pakistan on this pretext, is a repeat of what it did when it cancelled the Foreign Secretary level talks that were scheduled to be held on 25 August last year, pursuant to the meeting between the two Prime Ministers in Delhi in May 2014,” it added.

For the NSA talks in Delhi, the Foreign Office said that Pakistan had proposed a comprehensive agenda, consistent with the decisions taken by the two Prime Ministers in Ufa, which included discussion on all outstanding issues, including Kashmir, as well as terrorism related matters, and other issues such as religious tourism, release of fishermen and peace and tranquility on the LoC.

However, regrettably, the Indian side’s desire to restrict the agenda to terrorism related issues only amounts to a negation of the decisions taken by the two Prime Ministers, it added.

The statement further said that it is not Pakistan that has placed any condition for the talks. In fact, Pakistan has always demonstrated its belief in the dialogue process and is prepared to engage in meaningful talks with India, to resolve all outstanding issues that have bedevilled relations between the two countries, for the past many decades, it added.

“Pakistan does not disregard agreements or understandings. It is the Indian side which has reneged on commitments agreed upon between the two Heads of Government in the past year,” it said.

The statement further said that Pakistan wishes to reiterate its abiding commitment to promoting a relationship of cordiality and co-operation with all its neighbours, including India, in pursuance of the Prime Minister’s vision of a peaceful neighbourhood.
 
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Aare bhai baat karne mein intna hi interest hai to ek baar aao to sahi, kashmir na sahi per jo terrorism per baat ho rahi hai woh to karo. Kyo chote bacho ki tarah naraz ho rahe ho...ki mere ko lolipop nahi di to mein baat nahi karunga.
 
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Aare bhai baat karne mein intna hi interest hai to ek baar aao to sahi, kashmir na sahi per jo terrorism per baat ho rahi hai woh to karo. Kyo chote bacho ki tarah naraz ho rahe ho...ki mere ko lolipop nahi di to mein baat nahi karunga.
Bai Indian is the next superpower how can our failed state compete with them politically or militarily :lol:
 
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Bai Indian is the next superpower how can our failed state compete with them politically or militarily :lol:

Very true, thats why we are asking you to come to table, we can help you make understand whats going wrong at your side and how you can fix. That way you could move out of failed state status.:D
 
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Very true, thats why we are asking you to come to table, we can help you make understand whats going wrong at your side and how you can fix. That way you could move out of failed state status.:D
Hey champ my comment was sarcasm. We would rather get our heads cut off then bow down to an Indian. Let me remind you the BSF gave up two posts on the LOC and your government ran from peace talks. As for your superpower title belief in whatever gives you wet dreams.
 
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Hey champ my comment was sarcasm. We would rather get our heads cut off then bow down to an Indian. Let me remind you the BSF gave up two posts on the LOC and your government ran from peace talks. As for your superpower title belief in whatever gives you wet dreams.

Mine was sarcasm++ :P

No one in India want pakistan to cut off its head, rather we want pakistan to cut off all those head that rise to harm india. India has no desires to occupy Pakistan, we are very much happy with what we have and dont want to marry pakistans issues.

If you believe and work hard to chase your dreams, then you can make it reality...
 
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Mine was sarcasm++ :P

No one in India want pakistan to cut off its head, rather we want pakistan to cut off all those head that rise to harm india. India has no desires to occupy Pakistan, we are very much happy with what we have and dont want to marry pakistans issues.

If you believe and work hard to chase your dreams, then you can make it reality...

Please tell your "peaceful PM Modi" your positive view. It's a shame to see fighting between people who lived side by side 70years ago. However times have changed and now it's either prey or predator. Your statements seems to lack a reality check. If India truly doesn't want to marry Pakistan issues then please explain India's active involvement in Afghanistan. Please don't reply by saying India is investing in the future of Afghanistan no idiot is going to invest their money in a land with a bleak future. Many experts have suggest that India embassies in Afghanistan help orchestra terrorism inside of Pakistan and help fund the TTP and BLA. No internal revolt can survive without external assistance. Remember 71, India had no right interfering in internal Pakistani affairs regardless of the events. If India is the savior of mankind, please invade Burma and become the messiah of the Rohingya people. As you said I quote "India has no desires to occupy Pakistan, we are very much happy with what we have" doesn't India bringing nuclear weapons to the subcontinent contradict your statement. India's Operation Meghdoot, which Indian forces captured Pakistan posts along the Siachen Glacier also prove India warmongering mantra. Before barking I advise you to check your facts.
 
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Aare bhai baat karne mein intna hi interest hai to ek baar aao to sahi, kashmir na sahi per jo terrorism per baat ho rahi hai woh to karo. Kyo chote bacho ki tarah naraz ho rahe ho...ki mere ko lolipop nahi di to mein baat nahi karunga.
Baniye Kashmir ka naam sun k bhaagtay kyun?
 
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Really, but according to This SOURCE, its pakistanis who fled the Talks,

Pakistan calls off NSA-level talks; says pre-conditions put forth by India are 'unacceptable'

Pakistan has cancelled Sartaj Aziz's visit to India to hold NSA-level talks on August 23 and 24, according to reports. Pakistan Ministry of Foreign Affairs has confirmed that the NSA-level talks between the two countries will not be taking place.

"Pakistan reiterates that the scheduled NSA level talks cannot be held on the basis of the preconditions set by India. We have come to the conclusion that proposed NSA level talks between the two countries would not serve any purpose if conducted on the basis of the two conditions laid down by the Minister (Sushma Swaraj). Main purpose of any dialogue between India and Pakistan is to reduce tensions and restore trust as a first step towards normalization," read the Pak MoFA statement.

The statement further added, "If only purpose of NSA level talks is to discuss terrorism, then instead of improving prospects for peace it will only intensify the blame game and further vitiate the atmosphere. That is why Pakistan had suggested that apart from discussion on terrorism related issues, the two sides should also discuss modalities and if possible a time schedule for discussions on all outstanding issues including Kashmir, Siachen and Sir Creek, in keeping with the understanding of the Ufa statement. That is the only way to improve the prospects for peace between the two countries. "

Referring to the press conference held by External Minister Sushma Swaraj on Saturday evening, Pak MoFA said, "The External Affairs Minister's attempt to draw a distinction between pre-ambular and operative paragraphs in the Ufa statement appears to be an after-thought to justify a position that is counter-productive in terms of ultimate objective of reducing tensions and improving trust."

In the press conference, Swaraj had blamed Pakistan for the Gurdaspur and Udhampur terror attacks. Reacting to this, Pak MoFA statement said, "Considering that many terror 'incidents' blamed initially by India on Pakistan eventually turned out to be fake, its not improbable that India can delay the Resumed Dialogue indefinitely by concocting one or two incidents and keeping the LoC hot.

Addressing the press conference, Swaraj had said that the NSA-level talks would focus only on the issue of terrorism and nothing else, as decided by PM Narendra Modi and Pak PMNawaz Sharif in Ufa, Russia.

"The understanding in Ufa clearly stated in writing that the agenda was decided," she said.

Swaraj had stressed on the point that the talks between the two nations will not take place if Pakistan decides to go ahead with their meeting with Kashmiri separatists.

 
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Aare bhai baat karne mein intna hi interest hai to ek baar aao to sahi, kashmir na sahi per jo terrorism per baat ho rahi hai woh to karo. Kyo chote bacho ki tarah naraz ho rahe ho...ki mere ko lolipop nahi di to mein baat nahi karunga.

Ahahahahahahaha ... kashmir mein bhi tou terrorism hi kr rhi hai tmhari 7 lakh *Sena* ... hm wo terrorism b discuss krna chahte hain .... Child killers , women beater k sath baat krne k liye tyar hain aur kya karain ????
 
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Aare bhai baat karne mein intna hi interest hai to ek baar aao to sahi, kashmir na sahi per jo terrorism per baat ho rahi hai woh to karo. Kyo chote bacho ki tarah naraz ho rahe ho...ki mere ko lolipop nahi di to mein baat nahi karunga.
viny ji lagta hai appne pory post parhy nahy... talks se backtrack India ne kya he, Pakistan ne nahy..
 
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Sad this ended so quickly. Indian government was providing good comedy and entertainment for people of subcontinent.

Talks
No talks

Talks called off
Talks put on hold

Huriyat under arrest
Huriyat released

Pakistan shouldn't have rejected BS of Sushma Swaraj so quickly. Needlessly put a stop to comedy show of New Delhi.
 
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Please tell your "peaceful PM Modi" your positive view. It's a shame to see fighting between people who lived side by side 70years ago. However times have changed and now it's either prey or predator. Your statements seems to lack a reality check. If India truly doesn't want to marry Pakistan issues then please explain India's active involvement in Afghanistan. Please don't reply by saying India is investing in the future of Afghanistan no idiot is going to invest their money in a land with a bleak future. Many experts have suggest that India embassies in Afghanistan help orchestra terrorism inside of Pakistan and help fund the TTP and BLA. No internal revolt can survive without external assistance.

I can understand your concern, those are legitimate but over exaggerated.
In the world of diplomacy, its very much required that you make neighbours of your prospective rival as friends. China tries to do same with Indian neighbours, USA does same with russian and chinese neighbour. It is in that context that its must for India to gain good grounds with Pakistan neighbours so that when required we can use them to pressurize Pakistan. Secondly its been known that Pakistan in past has raised terrorists organisation in afganisthan on the name of jihad and now the same has gone out of control and is not only causing damage to pakistan but similarly they are potential danger to India. Hence to keep a check on them as well as to build a friendly image of India in Afganistan so that the hate towards pakistan doesnot spread towards India, its must that we do constructive work.

Remember 71, India had no right interfering in internal Pakistani affairs regardless of the events. If India is the savior of mankind, please invade Burma and become the messiah of the Rohingya people.
For this please contact your all weather friend China, it has better relation access to powerhouse inside burma to control this, as of now India doesnt have that deep relations, we are working on building the relations with Burma and hopefully might be able to help in resolving Rohingyas issues.

As you said I quote "India has no desires to occupy Pakistan, we are very much happy with what we have" doesn't India bringing nuclear weapons to the subcontinent contradict your statement. India's Operation Meghdoot, which Indian forces captured Pakistan posts along the Siachen Glacier also prove India warmongering mantra. Before barking I advise you to check your facts.

Unlike the pakistan thought process, we have a bigger threat on northern borders called China, which is nuclear state, much more powerfull and bigger than us and in order to safequard ourselves against them it was essential to have nuclear backup. India has moved way ahead in terms of building up its arm forces with keeping in pakistan in mind, we are more concern about meeting the challenges posed by china. As we know if we can build ourself to defend against china, then we are much more than capable to handle pakistan.

Siachen has been discussed to suns length, please open of siachen related threads to gain the understandings.

Baniye Kashmir ka naam sun k bhaagtay kyun?
Tumhe naste per bulaya aur tum bolte ho mein to nasta tabhi karunga jab app mujhe sone bhi doge ...aare bhai naste per bulaya hai to nasta karo, baatein karo aur aapne ghar ja kar so jao.


Ahahahahahahaha ... kashmir mein bhi tou terrorism hi kr rhi hai tmhari 7 lakh *Sena* ... hm wo terrorism b discuss krna chahte hain .... Child killers , women beater k sath baat krne k liye tyar hain aur kya karain ????

Are bhai to aao na terrorism per baat karne, agar indian forces terrorism kar rahi hai to indian government se baat karoge ya huriyaat se? Thodi to akal lagao? Huriyaat se to phone per bhi tumhari baat ho sakti hai ...govt to govt level baat to ek protocol ke andar hoti hai ...usse kyo kharab kar rahe ho?
 
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