Indian Civilization, its contribution to Modern day Science and Philosopy

[Shankranthi]

Just for you! Skeletal,craniofacial,common cultural complexes and linguistic links as to the origin of the first Indians.Remember; one thing counts-the evidence,feelings and emotions are for women,fanboys and kids.
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If you follow all the links you'll notice the both Tamil and Japanese share a common origin.

Thank you again !

There are rather interesting facts in that blog which I was not aware of. Of course the blogger makes the same mistake of quoting the now debunked Aryan-Dravidian split. Mordern genetics have shown there is no such divide. However the two most interesting find for me was

1. The link between Ancient Sumerian and South Indian languages
2. Link about the Chenchu hunter gatherers of Andhra Pradesh.

This was the first time I had heard about the Chenchu so I dug a bit deeper. So this is what I find.

An really old pic of the Chenchu tribe (..this is yet to be authenticated)

The video is that of recent times of the tribe and as you can see, nothing much has changed. They have still pretty much retained their ancient way of life. Though this is not for the best, it does helps us gather insight into history.

The most exciting part of the Chenchu was they were Hindus and they followed the Gotra system of lineage. This is an ancient Hindu method of lineage and is still widely practiced all over India, particularly in North India e.g. Haryana, UP etc.. Even among the Chenchu there is no intermarriage of people from the same 'Gotra'. This particular intermarriage among people from the same 'gotra' in north India is what is resulting in honor killings & Khap panchayats.

Of course all this might not be very interesting for you, but it helps in tracing out the roots of ancient Hinduism. Cheers.

 

[oFFbEAT]

Well, if Hindus were so Scientifically Advanced then how come they got & kept getting 'Conquered' by Invading Armies Of Muslims?!!

Because the invaders were BARBARIANS and the Indians were more oriented towards philosophy, science,arts and culture.....
Hence, Indian 'Scientific Advancement' was philosophically inclined, purely for gaining knowledge, NOT for making advanced weapons...........that's why, great civilizations like the IVC and later Gandhara etc. didn't have any defense mechanism in place....which resulted in their conquerment....

BUT now we know, 'to progress, we have to first survive'......

 

[oFFbEAT]

As promised in post #1025, here is the proof how some Pakistanis(like in this thread itself) try to deny truth as it contradicts their religious belief......while most of them accept reality as shown in the video below....

The video above shows what literate Pakistanis(educated elsewhere) know and think and this thread shows what illeterate(madrassa educated) Pakistanis have been brainwashed to think.......

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

As promised in post #1025, here is the proof how some Pakistanis(like in this thread itself) try to deny truth as it contradicts their religious belief......while most of them accept reality as shown in the video below....

The video above shows what literate Pakistanis(educated elsewhere) know and think and this thread shows what illeterate(madrassa educated) Pakistanis have been brainwashed to think.......

First of all that punjabi hater isnt Punjabi but muhajir from Karachi. So he didnt belong to the land which produced Rig Veda.

Pakistani ancestors were at one point Vedic, later on Bhudists. Bhudism declined after Hindu Gupta Empire invaded Pakistan Sindh & Punjab and converted many to Hindus. So for Punjabi & Sindhi hindus Ganges was holy river instead of our own Indus. Point is most of our ancestors were not Hindus but Vedic and Bhudists. Many were hindus as well after Gupta Empire.

 

[oFFbEAT]

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So Pakistanis are Aryans, Buddhists, Hindus, Persians, Arabs, Turks, Mongols.......what else.........man, I've never seen a more confused Pakistani than you.....in short, you agree that Pakistanis are 'HYBRIDS'....

 

[oFFbEAT]

First of all that punjabi hater isnt Punjabi but muhajir from Karachi. So he didnt belong to the land which produced Rig Veda....

Muhajir from Karachi? I thought, Indian Muslim immigrants into Pakistan are considered Muhajirs......you're not only trying to change your ancient history but also your modern history...

The person speaking in the video is born in Pakistan which makes him as much Pakistani as you are.....but unlike you, he is NOT 'educated' in any madrassa of Pakistan, therefore he knows the TRUTH......that is the only difference between you and him....

Pakistani ancestors were at one point Vedic, later on Bhudists. Bhudism declined after Hindu Gupta Empire invaded Pakistan Sindh & Punjab and converted many to Hindus. So for Punjabi & Sindhi hindus Ganges was holy river instead of our own Indus. Point is most of our ancestors were not Hindus but Vedic and Bhudists. Many were hindus as well after Gupta Empire.

See how confused you're......First you claim that most of your ancestors were not Hindus then you say Many were hindus.....

Buddhism came from Hinduism and the Vedic religion is the Hindu religion......so, essentially you were all Hindus, just like the Pakistani claimed in the video above.....

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

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So Pakistanis are Aryans, Buddhists, Hindus, Persians, Arabs, Turks, Mongols.......what else.........man, I've never seen a more confused Pakistani than you.....in short, you agree that Pakistanis are 'HYBRIDS'....

Only retarded like you are confused along with many in Pakistan as well who believe they are decendents of arabs, turks. But fortunatly because of DNA tests we can confirm this isnt the case, even Syed turned out to be locals.

My advice for Chamars, Dravdians and Australoid hybrids which make 99% of Indian population is be proud of what you are.

Muhajir from Karachi? I thought, Indian Muslim immigrants into Pakistan are considered Muhajirs......you're not only trying to change your ancient history but also your modern history...

The person speaking in the video is born in Pakistan which makes him as much Pakistani as you are.....but unlike you he is NOT 'educated' in any madrassa of Pakistan, therefore he knows the TRUTH......that is the only difference between you and him....



See how confused you're......First you claim that most of your ancestors were not Hindus then you say Many were hindus.....

Buddhism came from Hinduism and the Vedic religion is the Hindu religion......so, essentially you were all Hindus, just like the Pakistani claimed in the video above.....

Yes many were Hindus who remained hindus even now and didnt convert. So according to you Sindhi and Punjabi hindus dont exist? Most of our ancestors converted from Bhudism and some from Hindusism.

Vedic were not Hindus, modern day Hindusim is product of Gupta Empire. Learn your history Dravidian.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Rig Vedic people were not Hindus. Rig Vedic Brahmin decendents were responsible for current day Hindusism and Caste system in India. But they were not Hindus. Rig Vedic Civilization heartland was in Pakistan, only their decendents moved to India centuries later and created Aryan caste system to enslave locals.

To deny any off that will be going against History facts and genetic studies done on populations. Unless of course one believed in RSS historic facts lol

 

[oFFbEAT]

.......Vedic were not Hindus, modern day Hindusim is product of Gupta Empire. Learn your history Dravidian.

I know my history well as taught to me in India, but if you think my knowledge in incorrect, where do you suggest I should learn 'history' from......from Pakistani madrassas or from neutral sources elsewhere(like the Pakistani in that video had his history lessons in Canada)?

 

[oFFbEAT]

Rig Vedic people were not Hindus. Rig Vedic Brahmin decendents were responsible for current day Hindusism and Caste system in India. But they were not Hindus. Rig Vedic Civilization heartland was in Pakistan, only their decendents moved to India centuries later and created Aryan caste system to enslave locals.

To deny any off that will be going against History facts and genetic studies done on populations. Unless of course one believed in RSS historic facts lol

Genetic studies showed that Vedic people were not Hindus? ........I didn't know that study of genes can confirm one's religion..

Anyway, show us some sources of those 'studies'.......

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Genetic studies showed that Vedic people were not Hindus? ........I didn't know that study of genes can confirm one's religion..

Anyway, show us some sources of those 'studies'.......

Genetic studies can confirm if caste system was based on profession or race. I didnt say genes have anything to do with being hindu.

harappadna.org is good place to start, there is clear differences between Brahmins and local population.

I know my history well as taught to me in India, but if you think my knowledge in incorrect, where do you suggest I should learn 'history' from......from Pakistani madrassas or from neutral sources elsewhere(like the Pakistani in that video had his history lessons in Canada)?

Neutral sources, i dont read RSS mandir books. Pakistani madrassas dont even care about any hindu history but you being retarded may not know that.

Saying Rig Vedic people were hindus is like Muslims say that Moses, Jesus etc were muslims and following Islam. So are you talking about historical facts or RSS hindu facts? If you simply believe that Rig Vedic were hindus for religious reasons then no problem.

 

[INDIC]

Genetic studies can confirm if caste system was based on profession or race. I didnt say genes have anything to do with being hindu.

harappadna.org is good place to start, there is clear differences between Brahmins and local population.
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Genetic studies says caste system can only be traced back to 100BC.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Genetic studies says caste system can only be traced back to 100BC.

Not really, it shows that before Vedic Aryans were allowed to marry low caste womans which stopped around 2000 years ago.

 

[INDIC]

Saying Rig Vedic people were hindus is like Muslims say that Moses, Jesus etc were muslims and following Islam. So are you talking about historical facts or RSS hindu facts? If you simply believe that Rig Vedic were hindus for religious reasons then no problem.

Have you ever read Hindu scriptures before writing your jholachhap expert knowlege. Rigvedas are one of the four Vedas.

Not really, it shows that before Vedic Aryans were allowed to marry low caste womans which stopped around 2000 years ago.

How low caste Hindus ended up having high percentage of ANI. You were even lying about native Andamanese.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Have you ever read Hindu scriptures before writing your jholachhap expert knowlege. Rigvedas are one of the four Vedas.



How low caste Hindus ended up having high percentage of ANI. You were even lying about native Andamanese.

Just like Torah is one of 4 books in Islam.

Low caste Hindus having ANI is understantable and explained by ANI waves (which include anyone who is not pure ASI South Indian). ANI doesnt simply mean aryans. And Low caste have very low amount of ANI in them. Even higher caste Indians have low ANI because of mixing but still higher ANI then low castes.