Indian chopper forced to land in Olding, Pakistan, after violating airspace

[muse]

Smart move by Pakistan - first to intercept and then to allow safe return -- While things are not hunky dory between the two, certainly, it's encouraging that the two can and should behave responsibly towards each other.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Clearly a mistake on Indian part, probably due to to the notorious bad weather. Why would IAF/IA send a slow Cheetah helo on a spying mission? It makes no sense when India has the NTRO/ARC both with dedicated recon birds and UAVs.

I don't know why Pakistani members are getting all worked up about this news? Forcing an unarmed slow-moving vintage helo down with super sonic armed fighter jets is hardly impressive.

 

[SBD-3]

The following comments are from an Army officer who has served in that area and given a brief about what would have happened.

From Kargil to Sakardu straight crow flight is about 20 to 30 miles. A helicopter flying from Kargil entering Pakistani space at about 7 miles will come in Olding “that’s where it was intercepted”.
River Shingu flows from Kargil and meets the Indus after words and is used as a marker for flying and travelling on ground. Kharmung comes much later where the helicopter was forced landed.

He has told me that there was a similar incident where another Indian helicopter “actually” made the landing on the Olding helipad and when the crew started to come out they realised their mistake and got back in fast and tried to make a run for it but were overpowered by the Pakistanis and a short struggle ensured until the area crew was subdued during which the helicopter which almost left the ground titled to one side and its one rotor blade hit the ground but there was no serious damage. The Indian crew was also handed back after the flagstaff meeting.

Very possible when the conflict hails in a region of uncertain weather and conditions. But for the chopper to make such a blunt mistake, its surprising. Where was the communications gear in the second incident? I guess navigation would have certainly be difficult but at least they would have some clue that they were "not home" at least,but anyways the incident was kind of funny. Thanks for such an interesting post.

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Clearly a mistake on Indian part, probably due to to the notorious bad weather. Why would IAF/IA send a slow Cheetah helo on a spying mission? It makes no sense when India has the NTRO/ARC both with dedicated recon birds and UAVs.

I don't know why Pakistani members are getting all worked up about this news? Forcing an unarmed slow-moving vintage helo down with super sonic armed fighter jets is hardly impressive.

In LoC and beyond, positions are kept confidential. its a usual practice on both sides. Slow puma would have helped in visually identifying the positions. sensors and high altitude recon offers little value in this region

 

[SQ8]

Clearly a mistake on Indian part, probably due to to the notorious bad weather. Why would IAF/IA send a slow Cheetah helo on a spying mission? It makes no sense when India has the NTRO/ARC both with dedicated recon birds and UAVs.

I don't know why Pakistani members are getting all worked up about this news? Forcing an unarmed slow-moving vintage helo down with super sonic armed fighter jets is hardly impressive.

Perhaps you are the one getting worked up for all the wrong reasons...
First.. maybe the cheetah was just on a simple ferry mission.. bad weather forced it into its predicament.
second.. the cordial and professional attitude of the Pakistani military forces is what is being commended here..
Those who are trying to score cherry points on forcing down a chopper.. and those thinking that such attempts are worth making a post to ridicule are both morons.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

what happened today was a rare happy event in the history of the two countries relations . Can't we just leave it at that ?

 

[TOPGUN]

It was a mistake by the indian side and they have admited to it simple as that.. mistakes happen its life and GOD knows what was the reason behind the heli in our space or what caused it to be there. Second very good work by PAF & PA it was done in the proper manner and as a good gesture and to be looking towards better relations with India we did the right thing we returned the heli and the crew safe and sound simple as that people stop making a big deal out of it this is not a star trek eposide. A story like this a postive way forward for Pakistan towards India and i hope India see's that the time has come for peace between the two.

 

[LeGenD]

just do that so that we can do something which we want ..

do you really think you can so that

Yes, we can. No need for baseless chest-thumping.

Even if an Indian Helicopter is carrying Indian Prime Minister and it enters our airspace without permision, we can destroy it without second thoughts. And you can't do jack **** in response.

 

[blain2]

Let it go gents! The situation is already sorted out with sanity. Pakistan should expect the same in the future in case one of our assets goes off. The matter was handled with professionalism and that is all there is to it. No shooting war or tensions on going for anyone to keep anything or hold anyone.

Readiness gets a thumbs up too!

 

[Hulk]

Let it go gents! The situation is already sorted out with sanity. Pakistan should expect the same in the future in case one of our assets goes off. The matter was handled with professionalism and that is all there is to it. No shooting war or tensions on going for anyone to keep anything or hold anyone.

Readiness gets a thumbs up too!

I would expect India to respond similarly, what some people do not understand that there is a physicological effect of good or bad vibes. Does anyone remember when Musharraf was President how things were cordial. I am sensing something similar in near future.

 

[Imran Khan]

what happened today was a rare happy event in the history of the two countries relations . Can't we just leave it at that ?

if you think like me yes we can

 

[BATMAN]

its interesting to watch that they have not shot it down.We had shot down the last airplane that entered Indian airspace with an air-to-air missile from a Mig-21.

Sorry.. your account is all wrong.

Atlantique never crossed the border.

It was shot from across the border.

About forcing a Pakistani pilot to land in India chapter was closed for ever by Rashid Minhas shaheed.

 

[danger007]

Yes, we can. No need for baseless chest-thumping.

Even if an Indian Helicopter is carrying Indian Prime Minister and it enters our airspace without permision, we can destroy it without second thoughts. And you can't do jack **** in response.

If you want full scale WAR go ahead. International pressure will be heavy, US will take advantage for sure. Resulting damage will be heavy.

 

[BATMAN]

Another Chinese..another stupid post!!! Why don't you question yourself on the grandiose and pompus statement that any attack on Pak is an attack on China? There is not even a whimper from your side on drone attacks on Pak. This has got nothing to do with China..stay away

As for this episode, Kudos to PAF for going about this so professionally. For most people in Ind and Pak, this is an excellent example of sane heads existing between the two countries.

What the hell incident have to do with sanity of indian army?

 

[FL-COP]

Great outcome to a possibly volatile situation.

 

[LeGenD]

If you want full scale WAR go ahead. International pressure will be heavy, US will take advantage for sure. Resulting damage will be heavy.

You did not get my point.

You cannot just violate airspace of powerful nations and expect no response. Whether the intruders are carrying high profile personalities or not, they would be treated like hostile elements. If the intruders get destroyed in response, it would be because of their own stupdity.

And fighting wars with powerful nations are bound to get messy. War with us from your side would be devastating to your country as well. Keep this in mind.