Indian bluster yet again: 'to act decisively if another attack happens'

[afriend]

Well pakistani high commissioner was really pissed off.. and his reaction to the statements was strange..!!! Well chidambaram doesnt say things unless he is very clear and sure on what he means and he surely might have evaluated the repucrussions too.!!!!

 

[IceCold]

I think every Pakistani has become immune to this tough talk, at first whenever I used to hear such statements I would be enraged and be ready for a statement in response from the Pakistani side.............now I just say, "Cut the Crap" and watch a movie or something...........

While we cannot neglect statements like these, because they pose a serious threat to Pakistan as i was already having a debate with few indians who simply refused to accept that India has threaten Pakistan on numerous occasions, however i agree we Pakistanis have become immune to all this tough talk and jingoism from across the border. IMO we need to remain vigilant and prepare to meet any misadventure from across the border.

 

[Icarus]

While we cannot neglect statements like these, because they pose a serious threat to Pakistan as i was already having a debate with few indians who simply refused to accept that India has threaten Pakistan on numerous occasions, however i agree we Pakistanis have become immune to all this tough talk and jingoism from across the border. IMO we need to remain vigilant and prepare to meet any misadventure from across the border.

They had the opportunity (26/11) for their misadventures but they wasted it.................................I don't think they can afford a war right now, much of the Indian economy thrives on foreign ventures in India, should a war begin, these companies will leave for alternate markets and India's progress will be set back by anywhere from 10 to 40 years in worst case scenario.

 

[Icarus]

Depending on the intensity, length and the damage caused by the War.

 

[third eye]

While I am not against punishing the murderers of innocent Indians in Mumbai, I do have a problem when linkages are made with all of the past actors by the Indian side so in one fell-swoop, they can get Pakistan to deliver all the people that India has a problem with, proof or no proof does not matter thus the free flowing lists with 20+ people on them.


Lastly, what benefit does any of these attacks in India bring to Pakistan? Nothing!!!! It causes nothing but problems for Pakistan, as such it makes no sense for the Pakistani state and the security apparatus to support these folks.

Can they launch such attacks on their own?, yes they can...they are doing it all over Pakistan and this is despite a clamp-down. What happens in Lahore is not always the handiwork of TTP from up North. We have a militancy problem and by threatening Pakistan with attack, the calls actually backfire because these militants are all for more conflict. If Hafeez Saeed is connected then he is undermining Pakistan's interests which are concerning Kashmir only and not about undermining India's cities and inflicting harm on innocent Indians. If Hafeez Saeed is found to be doing this, he can easily be taken out of circulation, but how would the Pakistani SC respond to indefinite detention without any actual proof? The reason he got off last time was because Pakistan was never furnished with any incriminating evidence.

India will always have the choice to decide whether its time to do something militarily or not. My own take is that if something like Mumbai happens, there will surely be military action, however as I have often said, the response will also be fairly severe. Maybe India is also ready to absorb it..I don't know the answer, but it would do well for both sides to tone down the rhetoric and focus on fixing things in house...Pakistan can continue with the clampdown on the extremist elements, India should move to start an honest dialogue about the future of Kashmir.

Things have moved beyond the usual linking of everything with J&K.

What we are seeing is the gradual tearing apart of Pakistan by hardliners who were spawned by Zia, encouraged and later angered by Mush and aggravated by the ISAF actions in Af & inside Pak with the collusion of GOP, ISI & PA. None of the actions that happen could progress without the tacit approval or turning a blind eye by any or all of the three.

The question most sane Pakistanis should ask themselves & the GOP is that is the ( stand/ issue) patronage & help being given to terrorists, hardliners over J&K & Af more important than the existence of Pakistan ?

If Pak remains someday these issues can be revived. Today, J&K should have less relevance compared to Pakistan itself.

Today we have a situation where 7 blasts happen in a day at lahore, internationally Pak has reached a stage that it is marginally above the likes of Sudan on the terror front if US intersts were not involved it would have become an outcast /pariah by now. NWFP & Balouchistan have become like Af itself , Punjab is burning. Was this not expected when a deal was struck to hand over Swat quickly followed by another ' U - turn' so characteristic of Pk politics.

One Mumbai shook up India to a point that the nation was willing to consider the extreme simply coz the very vitals of a nation were threatened. What one sees in Pak is the equivalent of a Mumbai virtually everyday. 7 blasts must have brought Lahore to a standstill. Which parent would like to send their wards to school ?

Yet, Pak strangely persists in the thought that all is well & we can overcome. Strange.

lastly on the subject of should India attack or not, I feel Pak is doing a fine job on itself on India's behalf without a shot having to fired in anger across the IB.

God forbid if as mentioned another attack like Mumbai were to happen, things could change very rapidly.

 

[gen x]

well pakistan should act against terrorist not just for India but for Pakistan future

it is bad luck of Pakistan they don't have any good leader who can lead nation against terror

ISI now have to do it should be over

 

[Chappal Chor]

The first thing i fail to understand if we will have to do strikes will we tell everyone before hand about the strikes and then do it...


Take a chill pill guys.............. No we are sane enough to not to say what we have in our minds. but i do trust these oldies that they might have something or the other going on in their minds.

 

[ice_man]

after 6 pages of BS none of my indian compatriots seem to understand one thing! which is that pakistan is NOT palestine & for SURE india is no isreal!

india cannot think of "surgical strikes" and get away it is a wet dream that will remain just that a DREAM!!!

no matter how hard CHINDUABRNAHAM tried he couldn't find any PROOF directly connecting ISI or PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT to any of the events!! this was done by independent band or group of people!

as for us cutting "economic ties" and SUFFERING!! how can we be suffering we never gave you the status of preferred nation!!! we import goods that we have many other options to attain!

as for us making every indian suffer!! i guess the ONLY reason india backed down in 2008 after the incident and NEVER DARED to have surgical strikes is because india couldn't PREDICT pakistan's response! any surgical strike would be taken as an act of war the minute you cross the border even if you cross it with a dagger you DECLARE WAR! an ALL OUT WAR!!!

the indian government knew very well pakistan will retaliate and no one could predict with what!!!!


SO

ANY SURGICAL STRIKE BY INDIA WILL BE DISASTROUS MISTAKE FOR INDIA!!

1) all rouge elements such as al qaeda will exploit the war and use it to their own advantage!

2) economically india will suffer way more then pakistan because india will recieve NO foreign investment!!!

3) pakistan might just hit back all economic hubs of india!!! pushing india a decade back!!!

so my friend i say bring it on!!! you loose alot more then us!

 

[Chappal Chor]

Nopes operations like Wrath of god would be better options without harming the common civilians of pakistan as it has nothing to do with them....

There is lot to learn from Mossad. Surgical strikes within camps would be stupid idea. once you destroy them new camps will pop up. Dont kill the terrorist kill the terrorism. let there be operation like wrath of god and let them realize that there is no place safe for them neither in heaven nor in hell.

 

[ameer219]

Are bhaiya what i meant was Hafiz saeed had been someone who once enjoyed the leverage of being your asset. So in the changing times if you have political blah blah pressure. give us guys a chance we will take care of it and you guys can very well blame it on india.

we dont have any problem if you accuse us of blowing of hafiz saeed. we will be more than happy.

Sorry sir, but I disagree, no matter how much political pressure we have, I doubt we would ask India for help.

Remember the 2005 earthquake incident. Pakistan declined India's help, though I am still curious why they declined.Anyway this is just an example I am proving.

 

[Chappal Chor]

Sorry sir, but I disagree, no matter how much political pressure we have, I doubt we would ask India for help.

Remember the 2005 earthquake incident. Pakistan declined India's help, though I am still curious why they declined.Anyway this is just an example I am proving.

bah we are not helping you............. we are helping ourself... you would be more than happy anti indian elements to provide with the sheltor.

 

[jagjitnatt]

Pakistan declined India's help, though I am still curious why they declined.

The reason they declined was because the average Pakistani is full of hatred against Indians. If not all, definitely a majority. There is no trust between the two countries.

This is something I wish changes in the future.
Indians have let go of anger and hatred. Only a minority think that way now.

Without this trust, we'll keep blaming each other, fighting on forums, insulting each other, fight wars and threaten each other with nuclear missiles.

Sometimes I feel so stupid when we all do this.

 

[ice_man]

The reason they declined was because the average Pakistani is full of hatred against Indians. If not all, definitely a majority. There is no trust between the two countries.

This is something I wish changes in the future.
Indians have let go of anger and hatred. Only a minority think that way now.

Without this trust, we'll keep blaming each other, fighting on forums, insulting each other, fight wars and threaten each other with nuclear missiles.

Sometimes I feel so stupid when we all do this.

let me tell you something! more INDIANS hate pakistan!! we honestly at this point in time are least concerned about you! however,India is obssesed with pakistan! we even moved our troops from the eastern border to the western one! but no india stil is staging excercises on its western border most of its military is concentrated towards us! all indian threats are directed towards us!

now tell me wh ohas more hate towards who? & by the way all you need to do is go to bharat rakshak and see the hate for yourself!!!

 

[Imran Khan]

MUGHY TO LAGTA HAI HAMARY DIL MAIN HASRAT HI RAHY GEE UMER BHER. you indians never fight from last 30 years a reaal war we youngs here waiting for some action with ak-47 and g-3 but i don't think you come on border for war after nukes.fishy statment by mr.imran khan .lol

 

[sab]

the goverment said that there is a possibility that non state actors were involved in all this, but Ajmal Kasab is not a typical pakistani name maybe he works for raw and they paid him to do all this mess. it's simple you can pay anyone to do a dirty job and it's not strange that a migrant can have a pakistani citizenship. The court release Hafiz bcz there were no evidence against him. Justice is equal for all provide proofs to sustain your claims otherwise stop doing BS propaganda!

It is possible there is no proof against Sayeed.Ok leave him for time being. But what about Lakhvi and others???? Nice fantacy about Kasab.