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these statements will never bring to any end, bcz everybody knows that Mumbai was just a drama....and i must say it was really a bad drama, no organization, no thrilling action (indian commandos shooting at the civilians is not a good action), you people still not able to copy hollywood! so i'm waiting for the next show....hope that this time it will be a bit better then the last one and i can bet that india will use the same propaganda like it has done before but will never be able to do anything to Pakistan bcz war is a serious matter, it's not the same like doing propaganda and giving some meanless statements. :lol: :rofl:

Anyway if i try to act like a serious person the best thing i can do is ignore these type of statements.

Your own government agreed that Pakistani nationals are involved. So according your lame logic, even GOP is a part of this "drama"? It is shameful that such a tragic event seems like a drama to you.
Nothing is "lol" or "rolf" about this. The message that GoI is giving is simple. If a foreign soil is used for attacks against India, they must act against those elements. We are asking for peace, not war.
 
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Me thinks either they have a lot of confidence in Cold start.Or they know something about our neighbours crown jewels which they generally use for intimidation(the nukes).The Taliban on pakistan and 26\11 seems to have brought new dynamics into the Indo-pak scenario

Hint: Putin's recent visit to India. ;)

get the flow?
 
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You give us access to Ajmal Kassab First.......................

Then we might THINK about you allowing to meed hafiz saeed.

What will you do with Ajmal Kasab? Did he voilated any laws in Pakistan? Did Pakistan raised any such request with GOI with any genuine reason?
 
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Wao.. India thinks it is that easy? We would not want a war but if imposed, expect the same with yourself. We wont spare any aggressor bird coming towards us.

So for defending a terrorist you will get into full scale war as well.. and where in the article you read that Chidambaram is asking about going to war. India does not need to there are tons of other ways to do that diplomatically.
 
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these statements will never bring to any end, bcz everybody knows that Mumbai was just a drama....and i must say it was really a bad drama, no organization, no thrilling action (indian commandos shooting at the civilians is not a good action), you people still not able to copy hollywood! so i'm waiting for the next show....hope that this time it will be a bit better then the last one and i can bet that india will use the same propaganda like it has done before but will never be able to do anything to Pakistan bcz war is a serious matter, it's not the same like doing propaganda and giving some meanless statements. :lol: :rofl:

Anyway if i try to act like a serious person the best thing i can do is ignore these type of statements.
Your Court and Goverment has given stamp on the drama Mr Joker...seems you dont even read newspaper....
 
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these statements will never bring to any end, bcz everybody knows that Mumbai was just a drama....and i must say it was really a bad drama, no organization, no thrilling action (indian commandos shooting at the civilians is not a good action), you people still not able to copy hollywood! so i'm waiting for the next show....hope that this time it will be a bit better then the last one and i can bet that india will use the same propaganda like it has done before but will never be able to do anything to Pakistan bcz war is a serious matter, it's not the same like doing propaganda and giving some meanless statements. :lol: :rofl:

Anyway if i try to act like a serious person the best thing i can do is ignore these type of statements.

And what would you say about drama that your ISI creation Taliban is doing in Pakistan in almost daily basis. Well that drama was started by your own institution but went out of hand and control and now all those drama;s are blamed on India as a face saving exercise.

What a propoganda to fool their citizens about their own actions, huh?.

We see almost daily new drama in the form of new conspiracy theory created in Pakistan and the height is there are people who believe in each and every conspiracy theory.
 
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Sir, you can't mix medical and politics together.

The reason is basically because with the emotions involved in working on family could cause the doc to not be entirely focused and make a mistake.

How would Pakistan use emotions to extract information out from him? Pakistan have tried their best, and they can't extract anything therefore

Ok then read it as about someone whom you would have served food with your own hands.
 
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India to act decisively if another attack happens: Chidambaram - GEO.tv

NEW DELHI: India will act "swiftly and decisively" if another terrorist attack emanates from Pakistani soil, Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram said on Friday, urging Pakistan to "reinvent itself" as a genuine democracy and a responsible neighbour.

O.K first he threat then urged them to certain task!!! :undecided:

How about just urge and work together for peace......:)

Does bharat think that it has become Zionist occupied Israel(illegal state) and Pakistan somehow become Gaza strip that it will take action without receiving some retaliation in return. This kind of silly statement will cause irritation.

Let just be reminder is that bharati super commandos failded to save it's citizen from some kids that went mad. Let alone taking so called decisive action against country that has people born with mujahidi instinct. ;)
 
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O.K first he threat then urged them to certain task!!! :undecided:

How about just urge and work together for peace......:)

Does bharat think that it has become Zionist occupied Israel(illegal state) and Pakistan somehow become Gaza strip that it will take action without receiving some retaliation in return. This kind of silly statement will cause irritation.

Let just be reminder is that bharati super commandos failded to save it's citizen from some kids that went mad. Let alone taking so called decisive action against country that has people born with mujahidi instinct. ;)

we are seeing the same mujahid instinct dont worry. how the same instincts have turned against your own brothers.your same mujahid brothers are not able to safeguard their citizens in everyday blasts. we had one mumbai and then we were able to stop everything and there was a full stop...

Read first it is not the threat it is the retaliation if and only if they tried to attack India again.
 
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Dude, Saeed is in Pakistan, and Pakistan will be the one interogatting Saeed, its remarks like this that fuels hate.

You see, herein lies the basic contradiction between our two positions.
We actually think it's guys like Hafeez Saeed who fuel hate both by their hateful propaganda and by their murderous actions. You, on the other hand seem to have a problem if he is stopped from doing so. You clean up your stables and you would not to have to hear from anyone about doing it for you.

BTW Chidambaram is one of the most intelligent, erudite politician as you are ever likely to find. He is not prone to exaggeration and if he says something, you can be pretty sure it's not the usual empty bluster of politicians. It should be taken very seriously. Not doing so might turn out to be a big mistake.
 
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BTW Chidambaram is one of the most intelligent, erudite politician as you are ever likely to find. He is not prone to exaggeration and if he says something, you can be pretty sure it's not the usual empty bluster of politicians. It should be taken very seriously. Not doing so might turn out to be a big mistake.

Absolutely correct...He is a no-nonsense kind of person...So watch his words..this will save from getting surprised when words become action...
 
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You see, herein lies the basic contradiction between our two positions.
We actually think it's guys like Hafeez Saeed who fuel hate both by their hateful propaganda and by their murderous actions. You, on the other hand seem to have a problem if he is stopped from doing so. You clean up your stables and you would not to have to hear from anyone about doing it for you.

BTW Chidambaram is one of the most intelligent, erudite politician as you are ever likely to find. He is not prone to exaggeration and if he says something, you can be pretty sure it's not the usual empty bluster of politicians. It should be taken very seriously. Not doing so might turn out to be a big mistake.

So is he the first of the Indian politicians to make such remarks? Or is he the first intelligent Indian to make such remarks?

Secondly, what is the linkage between Kassab in your custody with Hafiz Saeed? What is the actual proof that HSaeed is behind these attacks? Would it stand in a court of law? Nothing that I have read, heard or seen on the TV leaves me with a feeling that there is any such proof that links Saeed to Ajmal.

While I am not against punishing the murderers of innocent Indians in Mumbai, I do have a problem when linkages are made with all of the past actors by the Indian side so in one fell-swoop, they can get Pakistan to deliver all the people that India has a problem with, proof or no proof does not matter thus the free flowing lists with 20+ people on them.

I hope that there are no further attacks on civilians on either side. However what does a threat to Pakistan achieve? What is it that your air strikes are going to achieve? If the purpose is to raise the cost for Pakistan, which implies that Pakistani government is behind these attacks - a claim which has been denied and the denial supported even by the US, then will the cost raised only apply to one-side? Probably not.

Lastly, what benefit does any of these attacks in India bring to Pakistan? Nothing!!!! It causes nothing but problems for Pakistan, as such it makes no sense for the Pakistani state and the security apparatus to support these folks.

Can they launch such attacks on their own?, yes they can...they are doing it all over Pakistan and this is despite a clamp-down. What happens in Lahore is not always the handiwork of TTP from up North. We have a militancy problem and by threatening Pakistan with attack, the calls actually backfire because these militants are all for more conflict. If Hafeez Saeed is connected then he is undermining Pakistan's interests which are concerning Kashmir only and not about undermining India's cities and inflicting harm on innocent Indians. If Hafeez Saeed is found to be doing this, he can easily be taken out of circulation, but how would the Pakistani SC respond to indefinite detention without any actual proof? The reason he got off last time was because Pakistan was never furnished with any incriminating evidence.

India will always have the choice to decide whether its time to do something militarily or not. My own take is that if something like Mumbai happens, there will surely be military action, however as I have often said, the response will also be fairly severe. Maybe India is also ready to absorb it..I don't know the answer, but it would do well for both sides to tone down the rhetoric and focus on fixing things in house...Pakistan can continue with the clampdown on the extremist elements, India should move to start an honest dialogue about the future of Kashmir.
 
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You see, herein lies the basic contradiction between our two positions.
We actually think it's guys like Hafeez Saeed who fuel hate both by their hateful propaganda and by their murderous actions. You, on the other hand seem to have a problem if he is stopped from doing so. You clean up your stables and you would not to have to hear from anyone about doing it for you.

BTW Chidambaram is one of the most intelligent, erudite politician as you are ever likely to find. He is not prone to exaggeration and if he says something, you can be pretty sure it's not the usual empty bluster of politicians. It should be taken very seriously. Not doing so might turn out to be a big mistake.

I am glad you said something like that .. one side will shut up the next time something will happen in India .. YOUR government will do something? .. I will hold you and your "never says crap" politician to his words.
 
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Secondly, what is the linkage between Kassab in your custody with Hafiz Saeed? What is the actual proof that HSaeed is behind these attacks? Would it stand in a court of law? Nothing that I have read, heard or seen on the TV leaves me with a feeling that there is any such proof that links Saeed to Ajmal.
Forensic evidence collected cannot and will not be brazenly displayed on digital and print media for all-n-sundry to see and criticize. Neither am I privy to such information. Its handled by professionals and you might want to talk to them, if you know any, about that.
What is being presented on TV being will be accepted in a court of law? No, but then again maybe! But what is handled by professionals will certainly be entertained in a court of law.

proof or no proof does not matter thus the free flowing lists with 20+ people on them.
Those 20 or so people, IIRC, are also on Interpol's list. So what are you doing protecting them?

What is it that your air strikes are going to achieve? If the purpose is to raise the cost for Pakistan, which implies that Pakistani government is behind these attacks - a claim which has been denied and the denial supported even by the US, then will the cost raised only apply to one-side? Probably not.

Lastly, what benefit does any of these attacks in India bring to Pakistan? Nothing!!!! It causes nothing but problems for Pakistan, as such it makes no sense for the Pakistani state and the security apparatus to support these folks.
Militarily, they might not achieve anything, but then again there are professionals who handle such matters. It does make a political statement at home and in diplomatic circles worldwide, and many countries will take notice. A diplomatic cough means a lot....

You might want to check out this particular thread.....

The Next Al Qaeda? LeT - potentially the most dangerous terrorist outfit

and this link...
ISI supports LeT, other terror outfits in Pak: P Chidambaram You might discredit the sources, but then again these are two, independent of each other, sources.
 
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Those 20 or so people, IIRC, are also on Interpol's list. So what are you doing protecting them?

If an individual is of interest and you report them as someone wanted, they will list them. Its as simple as that. The Interpol does not get involved in the politics of it. As to the proof, the idea is that once the person is arrested, then the proof would be gathered. As such waving the list to be "Interpol certified" means nothing.
Forensic evidence collected cannot and will not be brazenly displayed on digital and print media for all-n-sundry to see and criticize.

Forensic evidence by its very nature is tactical. Something collected on site, on the persons who commit a crime etc. How does this tie Kassab to the political leadership of a party of interest to India? This is the major disconnect between Pakistan and India. Even if I am to assume that someone higher up like Saeed is involved, he would not be so stupid to have conversations with someone like Kassab. Its not very simple and really not that easy to prove in a court of law.
The Next Al Qaeda? LeT - potentially the most dangerous terrorist outfit

I too think that this is a problem. However its not just a problem for India, its a problem for Pakistan as well. Steps are being taken to curtail their influence and ability to cause damage, however it will take time. Both Pakistan and India are susceptible to their attacks in the meanwhile, as the Lahore attacks show. However if India wants to launch an attack against Pakistan after a similar incident in India, Pakistan's response will not be very apologetic. This is the nature of the beast we are all dealing with. To deflate the beast, law enforcement actions in Pakistan and diplomatic discussions about the Kashmir problem need to take place between both countries.
 
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