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Indian Aviation Centre wants 4 US made Ospreys

If anything gonna change our Navy's Aviation then it must be Chinooks and V-22 . What an amazing platforms . Very well suited for Carrier operation, Special tasks , covert operation etc . My guess us that we might go for more V-22 to make use of flat deck on future LPDs . That could propel our capacity to transport troops in short notice and in large numbers . V-22 has range of over 1800 km and its refueling pods to extend its range. Since we are looking to by M777 for new mountain corp's V-22 and Chinooks comes handy for faster deployment where we lack proper infrastructure especially Tibetan front .
 
i though osprey if it worked was an impressive platform. i never understood why the pentagon cancelled it

No they never did... US is buying in huge numbers and Japanese have ordered.. Israel and Aus are very much interested so do INdian Navy
 
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Did I call this, or what? :azn::azn:



Anyway, I hope the MoD/GoI are smart and group together the IAF's, IN's and ARC's requirements for V-22s that way under the offsets Boeing can set up MRO facilities for the V-22 in India.



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The thing to note is that 1 is for SFF and the SG.So one will be dedicated for SF role.
 
Can't these tasks be accomplished by Chinooks that India is buying?

Why but a new platform for that?
The V-22 has a considerable speed and range advantage over the Ch-47 meaning which makes it ideal for SOF missions. The Chinook is great but it is a slow and lumbering target and ill-suited for going behind enemy lines.
 
The Chinook is great but it is a slow and lumbering target and ill-suited for going behind enemy lines.

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CH-47:

Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kt (149 mph, 240 km/h)

AH-64:

Maximum speed:
158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)
Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)

AH-1Z:

Never exceed speed: 222 knots (255 mph, 411 km/h) in a dive
Cruise speed: 160 kn (184 mph, 296 km/h)

Tiger:

Maximum speed: 290 km/h with mast, 315 km/h without mast (157 knots, 181 mph with mast, 170 knots or 196 mph without mast)

KA-50:

Never exceed speed: 350 km/h (189 knots, 217 mph) in dive
Maximum speed: 315 km/h (170 knots, 196 mph) in level flight
Cruise speed: 270 km/h (146 knots, 168 mph)

MI-28:

Maximum speed: 324 km/h (175 knots, 201 mph)
Cruise speed: 265 km/h (145 knots, 168 mph)

If it needs to fly, it can fly. The CH-47 and its derivatives are some of the fastest military helos around - even more impressive when you consider the helo is 100 feet long and has a max takeoff weight of 22,680 kg! Yes, they are big, but they are not slow.

Oh, and they are pretty damn maneuverable:


ill-suited for going behind enemy lines.

160 SOAR doesn't agree; the US military doesn't agree. The MH-47G doesn't agree either:

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This is the US military's deep insertion helo!
 
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CH-47:

Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kt (149 mph, 240 km/h)

AH-64:

Maximum speed:
158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)
Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)

AH-1Z:

Never exceed speed: 222 knots (255 mph, 411 km/h) in a dive
Cruise speed: 160 kn (184 mph, 296 km/h)

Tiger:

Maximum speed: 290 km/h with mast, 315 km/h without mast (157 knots, 181 mph with mast, 170 knots or 196 mph without mast)

KA-50:

Never exceed speed: 350 km/h (189 knots, 217 mph) in dive
Maximum speed: 315 km/h (170 knots, 196 mph) in level flight
Cruise speed: 270 km/h (146 knots, 168 mph)

MI-28:

Maximum speed: 324 km/h (175 knots, 201 mph)
Cruise speed: 265 km/h (145 knots, 168 mph)

If it needs to fly, it can fly. The CH-47 and its derivatives are some of the fastest military helos around - even more impressive when you consider the helo is 100 feet long and has a max takeoff weight of 22,680 kg! Yes, they are big, but they are not slow.

Oh, and they are pretty damn maneuverable:




160 SOAR doesn't agree; the US military doesn't agree. The MH-47G doesn't agree either:

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This is the US military's deep insertion helo!
Yes it's fast- for a helicopter, I've spoken to UK Army guys who said that whilst they where in Afghanistan, as much as they hate to admit it, they often had to tell the RAF Chinooks they were escorting to slow down as they were struggling to keep up! But this is an entirely arbitrary comparison because this is exactly where the V-22 excels and was made for- to have the best of both worlds, the speed and the vertical take off/landing.

V-22
Maximum speed 275 knots
Cruise Speed 241 knots



And the MH-47G entered service before the V-22 had even achieved operational clearance, additionally the 160th SOAR are an Army unit and thus the USAF monopoly on fixed wing a/c means that they are unlikely to look too favourably on them adopting the V-22 (although it could happen at some stage).


The USAF's own special op Sqns operate the CV-22:


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Plus wasn't the V-22 in line to replace the HH-60G Pavehawk for the USAF's CSAR/Pararescue role?
 
wasn't the V-22 in line to replace the HH-60G Pavehawk for the USAF's CSAR/Pararescue role?

nooo.. V-22 can't replace HH-60G. both are different type of aircraft. HH-60G is highly maneuverable and smaller as compared to C-22.
 
nooo.. V-22 can't replace HH-60G. both are different type of aircraft. HH-60G is highly maneuverable and smaller as compared to C-22.
I'm aware but at some stage the V-22 (and HH-47) was being mooted to take part in the USAF's CSAR-X program but that entire program turned out to be a bit of a fiasco.


Coincidentally the IAF are looking at the V-22 for their own CSAR requirements.
 
I'm aware but at some stage the V-22 (and HH-47) was being mooted to take part in the USAF's CSAR-X program but that entire program turned out to be a bit of a fiasco.


Coincidentally the IAF are looking at the V-22 for their own CSAR requirements.
that aircraft is truly and amassing one, but its redness rate is 68% in US military, then what will be its service rate in IAF with a limited number in service??
that aircaft is capable of flying even its one engine got failed, but if the proprotors got damage, then there is very little or no chance of survivability even it is howering just 450m above the ground. i don't think it is an ideal aircraft for CSAR operations. for the proposed use as an AEW&CS in navy is a good idea, but for a combat operations over an enemy air defense area is suicidal as the V-22 is not that maneuverable as a CH-47. if R&AW want that airfraft then that model might be CV-22B, anything less than that variant is not a good idea.

BTW it is MH-53 Pave Low which is going to be replaced by CV-22, not HH-60G
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Good Choice. I hope requirements from all the arms are coupled and made at same time. But then as these are for ARC, so these might be little "especial"...
 
Ahem:

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Did I call this, or what? :azn::azn:



Anyway, I hope the MoD/GoI are smart and group together the IAF's, IN's and ARC's requirements for V-22s that way under the offsets Boeing can set up MRO facilities for the V-22 in India.

If the news is true, IAF won't get their hands on them and it surely won't be used in disaster relief missions. It rather inducates the focus on special ops and CSAR, which the IAF can't provide with the CH 47 and infact sidelines IAF and their CH47 procurement. As I said all the time, it would had been far better for IAF, to buy V22s for the mountain corps in special ops and CSAR configs, while ordering upgraded Mi 26 in leasing contracts and possibly operated by Pawan Hans.
 
If the news is true, IAF won't get their hands on them and it surely won't be used in disaster relief missions. It rather inducates the focus on special ops and CSAR, which the IAF can't provide with the CH 47 and infact sidelines IAF and their CH47 procurement. As I said all the time, it would had been far better for IAF, to buy V22s for the mountain corps in special ops and CSAR configs, while ordering upgraded Mi 26 in leasing contracts and possibly operated by Pawan Hans.
Of course this ARC purchase will have zero to do with the IAF but that's actually not what I was implying/saying. For the past few months/weeks I've heard quite a few rumours the IAF is on the hunt for their own dedicated CSAR helos, this is entirely separate from the ARC's or even IAF's own plans with the CH-47F. And for this CSAR requirement the V-22 is said to be in the running- a number of briefings were given by Bell/Boeing to the IAF on the V-22 at Aero India earlier this year and whilst this is not news in itself I'm told these talks were more "in depth" than they ever have been before.



So, the prospective list of V-22 operators in India looks like:

ARC- for whatever they do
IAF-for CSAR
IN- potentially for AEW (unlikely considering the E-2D is looking likely and the Ka-31s are already in service for the STOBAR carriers) or for supporting their marine infantry brigade they are raising to operate from their future LHD/LPD.


Speculation, yes, but it is based on some pretty reliable information sir.


+ I'm 100% in agreement that Pawan Hans should get 4-6 Mi-26s to support infrastructure development projects in India.
 
Speculation, yes, but it is based on some pretty reliable information sir.

As you know, I would be more than happy if that gets reality, since that's what I'm saying for a long time too, but in the current situation I don't see that happening, The government is clearly on a low procurement path, delaying and cutting major procurements. The V22s are pretty expensive as we know and while such a procurement might be justified for special ops of ARC, possibly with seperate budgets, it's not likely that the government will provide IAF or IN with them.
 

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