Indian army ties, drags dead body of Kashmiri youth

[baapu]

Soldiers? Nope. Terrorists? Yep. Terrorists have no honors so we deal with them like that.

So clearly, its not a matter of the Grenade or bomb on the body. If its established that its not a matter of an explosive on the body, Just a reflection of the dead human's influence on the soldiers who is dragging. Expression of hate in this manner is cruel and criminal.

If you say Geneva conventions don't apply to terrorists, but they do apply to the soldiers engaged in this! because they are soldiers of a state. Conduct of soldiers is subject to geneva conventions. Give it a read sometime.

Do these solders lack training on how to handle themselves or are unfit to be in these situations?

 

[LASER1]

So clearly, its not a matter of the Grenade or bomb on the body.

Lol! It is, trained soldiers know how to handle explosives well. Terrorists know how to pull the pin, like anyone else.

 

[baapu]

Lol! It is, trained soldiers know how to handle explosives well. Terrorists know how to pull the pin, like anyone else.

enough BS.



https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule113

Section A. Respect for the dead
I. Treaties
Geneva Convention IV
Article 16, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “As far as military considerations allow, each Party to the conflict shall facilitate the steps taken … to protect [the killed] against … ill-treatment.”

Additional Protocol I
Article 34(1) of the 1977 Additional Protocol I provides: “The remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities … shall be respected”.

Additional Protocol II
Article 4 of the 1977 Additional Protocol II provides:
1. All persons who do not take a direct part or who have ceased to take part in hostilities, whether or not their liberty has been restricted, are entitled to respect for their person [and] honour …
2. Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, the following acts against the persons referred to in paragraph I are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever:
…
(e) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment …

ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xxi) and (c)(ii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “[c]ommitting outrages upon personal dignity” constitutes a war crime in both international and non-international armed conflicts.

 

[Foo_Fighter]

Either he was a terrorist or a militant. Choose which one. because militants have rights under Geneva conventions for warfare.
"Terrorists" have all the Human rights a normal civilian enjoys. The difference is they engage in violent criminal behavior.

As for SOP, Im pretty sure SOP for suspected bombs for which there is even a remote chance that they will blow, is to blow them up in a contained manner. So youre saying that all dead bodies are blown up? are you sure? Also if its a SOP to drag around dead bodies suspected to have bombs, its a pretty stupid one since you want to keep suspected bombs as still as possible.

I call BS on this SOP call.



You said grenade.. right? so it wasn't a suicide vest or something. So in war, do all soldiers who die get dragged like this? Many have grenades you know.




Driving people out of a land using force is recognized form of Genocide.



+1

lol so much of Humanity brings tears to my eyes. It's called an SOP for a reason. Irrespective of their status being militant, terrorist, dacoit, gun wielding manic etc which is a perceived threat of having a grenade/explosive comes under this SOP. The military and civilian safety is of Paramount importance for any army and they have the right to access it irrespective of their country. You might have heard a saying "it's better to be safe than sorry".

 

[baapu]

lol so much of Humanity brings tears to my eyes. It's called an SOP for a reason. Irrespective of their status being militant, terrorist, dacoit, gun wielding manic etc which is a perceived threat of having a grenade/explosive comes under this SOP. The military and civilian safety is of Paramount importance for any army and they have the right to access it irrespective of their country. You might have heard a saying "it's better to be safe than sorry".

Buddy , You've been called on that already . You're outright lying. what is that SOP? Name? Designation? Catagory? SOPs are always documented .What references do you have for this B*ull SOP? What evidence can you provide that such a thing exists?

Can you prove that you are not lying?

 

[Corona]

Expect nothing less from hindutva mentality

I'm the last person you wanna accuse of hindutva

 

[Foo_Fighter]

Buddy , You've been called on that already . You're outright lying. what is that SOP? Name? Designation? Catagory? SOPs are always documented .What references do you have for this B*ull SOP? What evidence can you provide that such a thing exists?

Can you prove that you are not lying?

Lol again, it's a part of Ops training and you really think I will have documentation of the same? It's it training for Jesus sake and neither was in CD or Training team. But I have an opportunity idea for you, try to cross Azad Kashmir and get into J&K with your freely available AK47 in local market and try shooting at streets. You will experience this SOP your self.

 

[baapu]

Lol again, it's a part of Ops training and you really think I will have documentation of the same? It's it training for Jesus sake and neither was in CD or Training team. But I have an opportunity idea for you, try to cross Azad Kashmir and get into J&K with your freely available AK47 in local market and try shooting at streets. You will experience this SOP your self.

proof or its BS.

 

[Mustang06]

enough BS.



https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule113

Section A. Respect for the dead
I. Treaties
Geneva Convention IV
Article 16, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “As far as military considerations allow, each Party to the conflict shall facilitate the steps taken … to protect [the killed] against … ill-treatment.”

Additional Protocol I
Article 34(1) of the 1977 Additional Protocol I provides: “The remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities … shall be respected”.

Additional Protocol II
Article 4 of the 1977 Additional Protocol II provides:
1. All persons who do not take a direct part or who have ceased to take part in hostilities, whether or not their liberty has been restricted, are entitled to respect for their person [and] honour …
2. Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, the following acts against the persons referred to in paragraph I are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever:
…
(e) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment …

ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xxi) and (c)(ii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “[c]ommitting outrages upon personal dignity” constitutes a war crime in both international and non-international armed conflicts.

Rich talk on Geneva convetion from a Pakistani. We all remember how you guys treated Capt Saurabh Kalia and his patrol and he was soldier in the IA unlike these dime a dozen a-holes(to which geneva convention doesn't apply) who get lured by some money and dream of virgins only to be killed like dogs and dragged on streets.

 

[Clutch]

I'm the last person you wanna accuse of hindutva

Online persona

 

[Corona]

Online persona

Online personas tend to bring out the real you. When you give someone anonymity, they don't have to abide by social restrictions or worry about their public image. They can let loose. If I were a bigot, I'd probably use this anonimyty to bash and badmouth my perceived enemies.
Give someone a mask to hide behind and they'll show you their true face.

 

[Clutch]

Online personas tend to bring out the real you. When you give someone anonymity, they don't have to abide by social restrictions or worry about their public image. They can let loose. If I were a bigot, I'd probably use this anonimyty to bash and badmouth my perceived enemies.
Give someone a mask to hide behind and they'll show you their true face.

Or maybe the fake you.

 

[Corona]

Or maybe the fake you.

Maybe, but all that means is fake me is nice. You can't extrapolate the real me as good or bad from just that.

 

[Clutch]

Maybe, but all that means is fake me is nice. You can't extrapolate the real me as good or bad from just that.

Nothing means anything and anything means nothing.

 

[Soumitra]

Buddy , You've been called on that already . You're outright lying. what is that SOP? Name? Designation? Catagory? SOPs are always documented .What references do you have for this B*ull SOP? What evidence can you provide that such a thing exists?

Can you prove that you are not lying?

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