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[janon]

Most bigger states do have such forces to tackle a 26/11 style attack:

MH: Force One
Karnataka, or better Bangalore: Garuda Commandos
Kerala: Thunderbolt Commandos
Delhi: Delhi Police SWAT
Tamil Nadu: TN Police Commandos

These are only the one I remember... but there are more.

I think force one is exclusively for Mumbai.

 

[Koovie]

I think force one is exclusively for Mumbai.

Yes, thats true ^^

 

[neehar]

whole south india??i think hyderabad and chennai already have NSG units..

 

[Abingdonboy]

I think force one is exclusively for Mumbai.

Yes, thats true ^^

Not true guys. Force One is the SRU of the Maharashtra Police/State and are deployed across the state. Mumbai city/police have their own SRU- the QRTs and even Response-10 (a separate unit but under Mumbai PD).

Most bigger states do have such forces to tackle a 26/11 style attack:

MH: Force One
Karnataka, or better Bangalore: Garuda Commandos
Kerala: Thunderbolt Commandos
Delhi: Delhi Police SWAT
Tamil Nadu: TN Police Commandos

These are only the one I remember... but there are more.

No there are many more mate, most states/large cities in India have them just there is not much attention given to them for instance Haryana, Agra and Punjab all have SWAT teams (their name) and Karnataka has the ISD (Internal Security Division). There are more but this was just off the top of my head.....

Hell, no. Not even close. Nor do they need to. Police forces have many other important priorities to take care of, before having a wing of trained urban warriors. Like proper policing, for example.

All said and done, policing and warfighting are two very different things, best left to different people. Requires different skills, different temperament, different training, different everything. I would think a quick reaction team for every police force, one that can pin terrorists into a small area until counter terrorist forces arrive should be the way to go. Kind of what happened in Mumbai, but with much better reaction times for the NSG. Make sure that the NSG can reach any part of India within two hours, and major metros even sooner. That will be an achievable goal, as opposed to expecting an urban warfare team in every police force.

I don't think he was saying every state/city needs a force identically equipped/trained to the NSG standards- that is pretty unfeasible. But they DO need to have specialist units that pack the punch to pin down the bad guys in a real emergency or have the ability to take on some real bad guys themselves. Follow the US model- every local/state has their own SWAT team/SRU but there are also Federal experts who are brought in when the local units cannot handle it (FBI's HRT). India Needs to implement this sort of model.

 

[janon]

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No there are many more mate, most states/large cities in India have them just there is not much attention given to them for instance Haryana, Agra and Punjab all have SWAT teams (their name) and Karnataka has the ISD (Internal Security Division). There are more but this was just off the top of my head.....


I don't think he was saying every state/city needs a force identically equipped/trained to the NSG standards- that is pretty unfeasible. But they DO need to have specialist units that pack the punch to pin down the bad guys in a real emergency or have the ability to take on some real bad guys themselves. Follow the US model- every local/state has their own SWAT team/SRU but there are also Federal experts who are brought in when the local units cannot handle it (FBI's HRT). India Needs to implement this sort of model.

That capability already exists in all major police forces, as you have pointed out in the preceding para. There is room for improvement, no doubt.

The only incident we have at our disposal where policemen had to chase terrorists during a terror attack in a city is the mumbai attack on 26/11. Frankly, I think that it wasn't lack of first reponse or policing that was the problem, but the late arrival of the NSG.

Think about it - there were five 2 men teams in multiple points in the city, shooting and grenading unarmed people in a thinkly crowded city of many million people during rush hour. And yet, the total casualties was only 186. The terrorists were either shot dead by the police, or pinned into high rise buildings like hotels or the jewish center. If the NSG had arrived in a couple of hours, the incident could have been over in a day. Sooner, with today's technology and training.

The sole bottleneck on those fateful three days, was the inordinate time for the counter terrorists to arrive.

 

[Abingdonboy]

That capability already exists in all major police forces, as you have pointed out in the preceding para. There is room for improvement, no doubt.

The only incident we have at our disposal where policemen had to chase terrorists during a terror attack in a city is the mumbai attack on 26/11. Frankly, I think that it wasn't lack of first reponse or policing that was the problem, but the late arrival of the NSG.

Think about it - there were five 2 men teams in multiple points in the city, shooting and grenading unarmed people in a thinkly crowded city of many million people during rush hour. And yet, the total casualties was only 186. The terrorists were either shot dead by the police, or pinned into high rise buildings like hotels or the jewish center. If the NSG had arrived in a couple of hours, the incident could have been over in a day. Sooner, with today's technology and training.

The sole bottleneck on those fateful three days, was the inordinate time for the counter terrorists to arrive.

Mate it is definitely a combination of the two- the local cop's lack of training and tools to fight back and the NSG's tardy arrival. In every situation like that the first 1 hour is key and here the responsibility will ALWAYS be on the local law enforcement. Are you honestly going to tell me that a better equipped local police force wouldn't have contained the situation better? Did you see the scenes of the cops in the railway attempting to fire their ancient .303s against Kasab and his crony? I think they even threw a plastic chair at them at one point! If this had been NYPD cops they'd have had 9mm sidearms and 12 gauge shotguns to fight at least. There's a high chance at least 3-4 of the baddies could've been killed by the local cops much earlier than they were. The NSG's reaction times have been much improved now and they will most certainly be able to reach anywhere in mainland India within a few hours however the first responder issue still persists.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Most bigger states do have such forces to tackle a 26/11 style attack:

MH: Force One
Karnataka, or better Bangalore: Garuda Commandos
Kerala: Thunderbolt Commandos
Delhi: Delhi Police SWAT
Tamil Nadu: TN Police Commandos

These are only the one I remember... but there are more.

yeah you have missed a few like the Punjab Police SWAT,Agra PD SWAT,Haryana PD-SWAT(they were deployed in the Surajkund festival last year),Gujarat PD-Chetak commandos,Meghalaya PD-SWAT,Odisha PD-Counter Terrorist unit(recently formed in the lines of the NSG),Kolkata PD-Special Action Force,Madhya Pradesh PD-S.T.F. etc.....

 

[SRP]

Odisha PD-Counter Terrorist unit(recently formed in the lines of the NSG)

i.e Special Tactical Unit(STU) for urban warfare and SOG(Special Operations Group) for Maoists(jungle and guerilla warfare).

Andhra Pradesh also started a similar force called Organisation for Counter Terrorists Operations (OCTOPUS).

 

[Sergi]

I think force one is exclusively for Mumbai.

Wrong.

Yes, thats true ^^

Nope
@Abing is correct

 

[thesolar65]

i.e Special Tactical Unit(STU) for urban warfare and SOG(Special Operations Group) for Maoists(jungle and guerilla warfare).

Andhra Pradesh also started a similar force called Organisation for Counter Terrorists Operations (OCTOPUS).

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[SRP]

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[thesolar65]

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