Indian Army News & Discussions

[brahmastra]

what is the weight of the howitzer? can our 'dhruv' lift one?

 

[Ruag]

what is the weight of the howitzer? can our 'dhruv' lift one?

M777 weighs around 10,500 lbs

M777 Lightweight 155mm howitzer (LW155)

Dhruv has an empty weight of 5,515 lbs and a maximum takeoff weight of 12,125 lbs.
(12,125 - 5,515) < 10,500

Therefore, the Dhruv cannot lift a M777. Maybe the Mil-17 can lift them.

 

[Novice09]

what is the weight of the howitzer? can our 'dhruv' lift one?

M777 Light-Weight Towed Howitzers Specifications - Wiki

Weight 3,175 kg (7,000 lb)
Length 10.7 m (35 ft) in firing position; 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in) towed position
Barrel length 39 calibers
Crew 5

I don't think that Dhruv could handle this Howitzer

 

[azfar]

I was going to ask same question which heli you will use to lift them?

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

I was going to ask same question which heli you will use to lift them?

The process to purchase latest and more capable choppers is in its advance stages. And i think we will choose Boeing - Chinook.



India currently have Mi-26 and Mi-35

General characteristics

* Crew: Six – 2 pilots, 1 navigator, 1 flight engineer, 1 loadmaster, 1 radio/electronic systems operator
* Capacity:
o 80 troops, 60 litters[9]
o 20,000 kg cargo (44,000 lbs)[9]
* Length: 40.025 m (131 ft 4 in) (rotors turning)
* Rotor diameter: 32.00 m (104 ft 11.8 in)
* Height: 8.145 m (26 ft 9 in)
* Disc area: 789 m2 (8,495 ft²)
* Empty weight: 28,200 kg (62,170 lb)
* Loaded weight: 49,500 kg (108,900 lb)
* Max takeoff weight: 56,000 kg (123,500 lb)
* Powerplant: 2× Lotarev D-136 turboshafts, 8,380 kW (11,240 shp) each

 

[sancho]

The process to purchase latest and more capable choppers is in its advance stages. And i think we will choose Boeing - Chinook.
India currently have Mi-26 and Mi-35

Mi 35 attack helicopter to lift a howitzers? Doubtful!
The Mi 26 and its replacement can do it, but keep the numbers in mind! Over 100 new howitzers, but only ~ 15 new heavy weight helicopters should be procured.
Mi 17 instead is available in big numbers in IAF and more than capable to do that job:

M777 Light-Weight Towed Howitzers Specifications - Wiki

Weight 3,175 kg (7,000 lb)

Specifications (Mil-17)
General characteristics

* Crew: Three – two pilots and one engineer
* Capacity: 32 passengers or 4,000 kg (8,800 lb) on internal/4,500 kg (10,250 lb) external hardpoints.

What interests me more, is there any report which ammunition they will use, especially will Excalibur be available for India?

M982 Excalibur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[karan.1970]

Mi 35 attack helicopter to lift a howitzers? Doubtful!
The Mi 26 and its replacement can do it, but keep the numbers in mind! Over 100 new howitzers, but only ~ 15 new heavy weight helicopters should be procured.
Mi 17 instead is available in big numbers in IAF and more than capable to do that job:






What interests me more, is there any report which ammunition they will use, especially will Excalibur be available for India?

M982 Excalibur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

THis is interesting. If the range in close to 45 km, then that gets most of Mudrike in the range of Artillary guns...And shelling across the border is a fairly common thing between iNdia and pakistan..

 

[ironman]

What interests me more, is there any report which ammunition they will use, especially will Excalibur be available for India?

M982 Excalibur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[sancho]

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Interesting, but what range wouldbe possible with them, compared to Excalibur and which guidance is better, laser, or GPS?

My question for the ammo also was aimed on another point, if Excalibur would be available, I'm pretty sure that IA also will buy the Archer self propelled artillery in the other competition!
These mobile howitzers are also aimed for the same region like the M777 and same ammo means easier logistics, not to forget they the Archer can fire this ammo to ranges of up to 60Km!

 

[RPK]

Indian Army to procure quick reaction surface to air missiles


New Delhi: To secure its skies from enemy fighter aircraft and cruise missiles, the Indian Army is planning to procure more quick reaction surface to air missiles (QR-SAMs) from global vendors.


In a Request for Information (RFI) issued yesterday, without mentioning the number of systems to be procured, the Army has asked the vendors to provide missile systems which have a range of over nine kilometres and are capable of taking on aircraft or missiles at an altitude of up to six kilometres.

The Army is seeking a QR-SAM capable of being launched within six seconds and taking on hovering helicopters also. It wants the new systems to have the ability of firing two missiles at a time and simultaneously guide them to the desired targets.

The Army has reportedly placed orders for four squadrons of SPYDER QR-SAMs from Israel. The DRDO is also working on the development of a home grown QR-SAM system and planning to co-develop it with a foreign partner.

The RFI states the missile system should be capable of operating in the electronic warfare environment and should be provided with Nuclear, Biological and Chemical warfare protection system.

The Army wants its new systems to be highly mobile and capable of being moved on rail-based platforms besides being mobile in desert and semi-desert terrain.

It also wants the vendors to do a transfer of technology to Indian firms so that the missile system can be later on produced in India also. Global missile manufacturers including MBDA of France and Israeli Rafale are expected to offer their systems to the Army.

 

[jha]

were not we supposed to induct some APACHEs for army.....

 

[gogbot]

were not we supposed to induct some APACHEs for army.....

They still conducting trails and such.

Its still a tender floating for Companies.

Its between the Apache, Tiger and Mi-35

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Women scale new heights, enter ITBP ranks

BHANU (PANCHKULA): The next batch of pilgrims going to Mansarovar would find a different sight as ITBP's first lot of women recruits gets ready to join their male colleagues at those lofty heights in the near future.

The first contingent of 209 women passed out on Friday after completing rigorous training of 44 weeks from ITBP's Basic Training Centre (BTC) Bhanu near Panchkula, where home minister P Chidambaram took the salute and presided over the attestation ceremony.

The women have been inducted to take care of 'gender-specific' requirements of the force, including frisking of women in areas along the Indo-Tibet border.

These recruits will be the first women to be deployed along the international border with China by the ITBP. The ITBP mans the internal border between India and China.

They will also be posted on VVIP security duties and will also be deployed at the Sikkim and Ladakh frontiers. Some of them will be pressed into service in the ongoing anti-Maoist operations in naxal-infested states. Besides, a Quick Reaction Team (QRT) and a bomb disposal squad with women recruits would be constituted soon.

Most woman constables who passed out on Friday are well educated. As per figures provided by ITBP, 29 candidates have postgraduate degrees, 27 are graduates, 129 have passed Class XII while the remaining are matriculates, the basic qualification for the selection.

Describing the event as historic, home minister P Chidambaram congratulated the parents of the new recruits for taking a bold decision by allowing their daughters to join the force.

Women scale new heights, enter ITBP ranks - India - The Times of India

 

[RPK]

Lt Gen GM Nair takes over as Military Secretary

New Delhi: Veteran infantry officer, Lt Gen G M Nair on Monday took over as the Military Secretary, succeeding Lt Gen Awadhesh Prakash who is facing disciplinary action for his alleged involvement in the Sukna land case.


A Sainik School alumni, Lt Gen Nair joined NDA, Khadakwasla and was commissioned into 1/11 Gorkha Rifles in 1972.

In his active service in several operational areas, he commanded his battalion in counter insurgency operations in Assam and Manipur, an infantry brigade in western sector during Op Parakram and a mountain division in OP Rakshak in Jammu and Kashmir.

Prior to assuming appointment of the Military Secretary, Nair was heading the 9 Corps.

He has also held several important staff, instructional and foreign assignments including a stint as a Military Observer in UN operations in Namibia and Instructor as a Brigadier in Army War College, Mhow.

Holding a Masters in Defence Studies, he has a MS in Strategic Studies from US Army War College and also attended US Army War College Course in Carlisle.

 

[RPK]

Army looking for foreign carbines


NAGPUR: It&#8217;s not that induction of just advanced weaponry is getting delayed in the armed forces. Same is the case with a simple carbine. It is a gun with a holed barrel commonly seen with a VIPs security guard. The Indian Army wants to replace its old 9mm carbine of World War II vintage with a 5.56 one.

After an earlier plan to make this with foreign collaboration fizzled out, the army has begun scouting for the weapon in open market. A request for information (RFI) was lately posted on Indian Army website inviting details on this type of gun from the vendors. Carbine is smaller than rifles and used for close quarter combat. The army in its RFI has left it upon the vendor to specify the weight, length, rate of fire and so on.

While it wants the interested parties to inform whether their carbine has features like laser spot designator, or flash eliminator. Earlier it was planned to make 5.56 carbines in collaboration with Singapore Technologies Kinetic (STK), at local ordnance factories. However, as is becoming the norm, a commission scandal led to the deal with STK being held up. The former chairman of Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) Sudipto Ghosh was arrested in this case. Interestingly, a 5.56 carbine is already being made by two different government agencies in the country. But for some reasons, army is interested in importing it. The one being made by Indian ordnance factory is called &#8216;Amogh&#8217;.

The other one is being developed by the Pune-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment (ARDE), a unit of Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO). The 9 mm carbine currently used by the army and other forces is being made at the ordnance factory in Kanpur. Enquiries at the army spokesperson&#8217;s office in New Delhi about the RFI elicited no response. Other sources in the army said a 5.56 carbine is needed so as to achieve standardization of ammunition. Now the army uses rifles and light machine guns of 5.56 calibre so it has to keep 9 mm ammunition just for carbines. &#8220;If a5.56 mm carbine is inducted, similar ammunition can be used in different weapons,&#8221; said a source in the army.