Indian Army gets Battle ready on Jaisalmer border with Pakistan.

[RazPaK]

And I would rather trust Pakistani strategists who are sworn to protect my motherland, our people will kill as many indians as we can, if they attack our motherland.

Every Pakistani would unite to kill Indians. Only the India pandering liberals would get on their private jets and run.

Even the Taliban, the worst enemy of Pakistan said they would massacre the Indians if they were ever to make that mistake.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

Every Pakistani would unite to kill Indians. Only the India pandering liberals would get on their private jets and run.

Even the Taliban, the worst enemy of Pakistan said they would massacre the Indians if they were ever to make that mistake.

RazPak overflowing with emotions,will you also come to the border flying from the US?
I wonder where the emotions were during 65,71 and 99 games we played..

 

[Phoenix89]

So you are going to target Lahore, then in retaliation all the indian cities will come under fire, the international community will turn on india very swiftly if you deliberately target civilians. Grow up - you sound all of ten years old.

Woh jazbatti hoke bol raha tha....Koi Lahore ko target nahi karega....Hahaa Rofl....

General Rafi pls aap sari indian cities pe fire mat karna pls....I know aap PDF ke through warning dene aay hai indians ko...but pls.... pls don't order ur battalion to attack...sincere request of a civilian from INdia....

 

[RazPaK]

RazPak overflowing with emotions,will you also come to the border flying from the US?
I wonder where the emotions were during 65,71 and 99 games we played..

I know cowardice was the feeling running through you Indians in Kargil when your boys were getting mowed down by machine gun fire.

 

[KRAIT]

Every Pakistani would unite to kill Indians. Only the India pandering liberals would get on their private jets and run.

Even the Taliban, the worst enemy of Pakistan said they would massacre the Indians if they were ever to make that mistake.

So now you love Taliban as long as they are killing Indians, I think you will pardon TTP and BLA if they say the same....Stop making threats living in US....at least Rafi can say that as he can fight against us as he is in Pakistan.

BTW don't post such comments, NSA will start following you...

 

[Phoenix89]

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[SQ8]

I would rather stick to decision of Indian strategy makers rather than some guy's knowledge of few weapons on both side of the borders.

Things don't work as said in an Internet forum...the variables involved are just too many for one to fathom.

War scenarios are being played over and over again by these strategists to get the better strategy....

What people dont discount is that if Jaisalmir was the target of the ambitious but rather ill planned and botched offensive by the PA in 71.. it too can provide a jumping point for an offensive into Pakistan to cut its critical axis off..THAT MAY VERY WELL NOT BE BOTCHED OR ILL PLANNED AND MAY WORK LIKE CLOCKWORK.

 

[surya kiran]

The main component in any future stand off will be the IN. The role for Karachi will be designation to the strike groups of IN Airforce. The objective the naval base in Karachi and the fuel storage facilities. Goes without saying striking emergency reserves will be easier said than done. we will need bunker busters or better for these.

Expect the PAF to carry out pre-emptive strikes on IAF bases along the border, coupled with long range artillery strikes. IAF main role, will be to withstand first wave and go after the radar centres with either choppers, air drops or stand off BrahMos. If I am not mistaken the Jag strike packages will be used to target both radar centres and runways, supported by Sukhois and AWACS. Mig 21s with radars switched off may escort the Jags. The main threat will be Jacobabad. The base with the F-16s (if I am not mistaken)

Tank warfare, is a little difficult to foresee. Because, this would depend on time of year. Also, Mig 27 with its CBU 105 will be a major threat to PA tank formations, even before the IA aviation wing comprising the attack choppers comes in to play. Hence the threat in case a frontal assault between armoured formations will be Mig 27 with CBU 105, followed by stand off IA aviation assets ATGM and then followed by IA armoured corps. The Kashmir sector will probably have long range artillery duels and a push by PA/ tribal wave attacks in the Rajouri, Poonch and Kupwara sectors. The only way to mitigate this would be a push in to Pakistani territory along the Punjab border toward force the PA to reassign assets. The underbelly to hit will be the Rann of Kutch region. But, I am not sure we have the capability to transport troops over the marshes in the numbers required for the same though lots of war games and training has happened here. I seriously, believe the Jaisalmer base has been activated to launch strikes across the border and co-ordinating with the Bhatinda based forces. This would result in 2 pronged approach with a middle push coming from the Bikaner based forces.

Basically pin the PAF into a defensive role. The PA's main assets will be the long range artillery. And threat of missile exchange. But, most of the above will not serve any strategic gains as far as India is concerned. Hence, India 's political objective will be exercise restraint and let the PA forces cross first. Military objective should be degradation of economic capabilities through targeting ports and prevent PA from devoting optimal resources across one point of contact.

Ofcourse, I am playing arm chair general here and I don't think India should initiate any military use till upgrades of the armed forces are completed. Comments please! Hopefully sensible and experienced ex-military could punch holes in the above!

 

[SQ8]

Hence, India 's political objective will be exercise restraint and let the PA forces cross first.

Bingo!..

Make the PA initiate the level of thresholds crossed.
Be it cross border attacks.. or a nuclear one.
So that from the word go.. India retains the diplomatic advantage as well...with all friends, foes and allies of Pakistan.

 

[MilSpec]

If the indians think they can do it, why don't they come and try.

Sir, With all due respect;
Despite what the rhetoric sounds on a internet forum, Republic Of India has always been patient when it comes to use of force. Please do not confuse the patience with weakness.

Poor indian fanboys = having spent time in india, I can honestly say - we have little to fear from him, vigilance yes - but india is a soft nation - it does not have the strength, imagination or the will to take us on.

True, there is no need to fear us, but has your establishment ever done so? Your entire political structure was decimated by your military establishment on..... guess what? FEAR OF INDIA, right?
India doesn't have the capability to roll over and crush pakistan , but your generals have thrived upon this fear, and will continue to nurture the same. so more power to you, who can get out the Indian boogeyman syndrome, and get a mature political process started as envisioned by Mohd. Ali Jinnah, (whose plans are incidentally in the trash for last 65 years)

71 was an aberration from the thousands of years india was dominated by other civilizations. The indian culture and civilization are basically effeminate in nature. To my Pakistan brothers, my suggestion is to let the indians get worked up, and expend a bit of their arm chair generalship - that is all they can do.

Well as far as Effeminacy of my culture is concerned, please do remember, that this land was ruled for more than 3500 years by "My civilization" and my culture still lives on and will continue to do so, and as far as the pride of the culture and civilization you are referring to which your ancestors "converted" is well documented and hence abhorred upon by your own saner comrades.

And I would rather trust Pakistani strategists who are sworn to protect my motherland, our people will kill as many indians as we can, if they attack our motherland.

Keep aside your false bravado, never in the modern history of this land has been a massive surrender as your competent generals have showcased.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Attaboy....at least someone understand few things are way too complicated for us.....You are right, they will have a counter-strategy for this too....BTW deliberately killing civilians will not be considered by them.

Sir

Lets hold our horses here. If you look at the history, both sides at no point targeted civilians during civilians in 65 and 71. We both have professional armed forces and a professional soldier considers it beneath his honour to deliberately kill innocent civilians. IAF planes hovered over Pakistani cities and vice versa with Pakistani planes hovering over Indian cities close to the border, at no point did these planes drop bombs in civilian areas. Neither did the artillery boys on both sides deliberately targeted civilians.

 

[Meluhan]

HAR HAR MAHADEV !!!

Wars been faught since universe were created.... Dark vs Light.... No one can stop war.... Annunaki's both half brothers ENKI AND ENLIL went to war with each other.... What is shocking is that they war inside india (now its india and pakistan).... Annunaki returning time is set. Its GOLDEN AGE.... from 21st december till next 3600 years.... i have got a feeling.... Nuke war is real.... Even in my dream i saw nuke war where nuke missiles were flying.... I saw this few times already in my sleep and it made me alot scared.... Golden age famous for long age and same time war.... They say bad people will die out in golden age by diseases, natural disasters and wars.... Many people going through natural disasters atm.... Floods are everywhere.... i have gotta feeling.... War is at the corner.... Its true....

 

[GORKHALI]

AR1A Multiple Launch Rocket System | Military-Today.com

We have TOT for 130Km variant.



Read the WW-II history , bombing civilian cities is easier said than done because they draw a similar response. Both New dehli and Mumbai and every city around is well within the range of Babur and long range multi barrel rocket systems.

My friend!!! 120kM only and to rain over jaisalmare ,you need to bring 20Km near border. Perfect Target Practice for 120MM field Gun of IA now even Mighty Bofors and M177 will not come into fray here



While in other news ,you are saying a copy of OEM product is better in this respect ? As it's 30KM more than OEM product .Well let me remind you SMERCH Rockets are now manufactured by OFB which are guided and proven record and also we are developing our Own Pinaka 2 or whatever you called that , does that trickled you now ?

The Pinaka is in the process of further improvement. Israel Military Industries teamed up with DRDO to implement its Trajectory Correction System (TCS) on the Pinaka, for further improvement of its CEP. This has been trialled and has shown excellent results.The rockets can also be guided by GPS to improve their accuracy. A wraparound microstrip antenna has been developed by DRDO for this system

While the Pinaka will not be developed further into a larger system, its success and the experience gained from the program has led the ARDE and its partner organizations, to launch a project to develop a long range MRL similar to the Smerch MLRS. A 7.2-metre rocket for the Pinaka MBRL, which can reach a distance of 120 km and carry a 250 kg payload will be developed. These new rockets can be fired in 44 seconds, have a maximum speed of mach 4.7, rise to an altitude of 40 km before hitting its target at mach 1.8 and can destroy an area of 3.9 km2. Integrating UAVs with the Pinaka is also in the pipeline, as DRDO intends to install guidance systems on these rockets to increase their accuracy. Sagem completed delivery of its Sigma 30 laser-gyro artillery navigation and pointing system to be equipped with the Pinaka multiple launch rocket system in June 2010.The Sigma 30 artillery navigation and pointing system is designed for high-precision firing at short notice. Development and trials will continue and the rocket is expected to enter user trial by 2012

P.S- You lost your credential here mate. Better go back to JF 17 thread and Chuck F**k thread now ,that's your homeground

 

[gslv mk3]

So you are going to target Lahore, then in retaliation all the indian cities will come under fire, the international community will turn on india very swiftly if you deliberately target civilians. Grow up - you sound all of ten years old.

Do you think you can get close to the border and attack an Indian target 150 km inward of border?That would be easily detected.

 

[The Deterrent]

I would rather stick to decision of Indian strategy makers rather than some guy's knowledge of few weapons on both side of the borders.

Things don't work as said in an Internet forum...the variables involved are just too many for one to fathom.

War scenarios are being played over and over again by these strategists to get the better strategy....

Agreed...the real strategies come to light in a real war.
These are the same old discussions held when Nasr was first tested.