Indian Arihant a rip off Russian sub?

[mjnaushad]

Russia does not seem to have a problem, why Pakistan?

Sameway US dont seem to have problem with Babur but indians keep crying its a copy of Tomahawk....

 

[Firemaster]

Yes and in copying without first taking it apart to study it will result in superior copies?

with indigenous design development superiority is assured buddy just chill

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Yes and in copying without first taking it apart to study it will result in superior copies?

with indigenous design and development superiority is assured buddy just chill

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Sameway US dont seem to have problem with Babur but indians keep crying its a copy of Tomahawk....

So,this thread is a response to some other thread..........EPIC!!

 

[Firemaster]

An Indian trolls trying to TWIST THE FACTs that India stole the Russian Sub technology !!!

only you are harsh troll in this thread

 

[Firemaster]

Sameway US dont seem to have problem with Babur but indians keep crying its a copy of Tomahawk....

aaj apne maaan liya to hum Indians bahut khushhh hainn

 

[Obambam]

with indigenous design development superiority is assured buddy just chill

It has no effects on me whether India claims it is indigenous or not. The only thing that matter is India is still the largest importer or military tech for good reasons

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

It has no effects on me whether India claims it is indigenous or not. The only thing that matter is India is still the largest importer or military tech for good reasons

How does that matter ? .......Its still enough to make certain unwanted foreign naval vessels to keep well away from Indian shores .....

 

[Obambam]

How does that matter ? .......Its still enough to make certain unwanted foreign naval vessels to keep well away from Indian shores .....

What I am saying is. Indigenous or not matters little. What really matter is the ability to actually make and export weapon systems and not rely on importing it. The money which would otherwise be spent on importing could be better invested elsewhere.





P.S. cheers for the news media response, I was too lazy to respond, but I was very grateful for it buddy. It's always nice to learn and understand each other more.

 

[rcrmj]

no question about that based on the given track record`

 

[crankthatskunk]

What makes me laugh is how sensitive Indians are about their “departments” claim of “indigenous” weapons.

On three different threads, on three different “indigenous” products, I have provided clear cut proofs that all these three products were not indigenous in any sense. No Indian has responded in meaningful way or provided convincing arguments against the evidence produced, despite making personal comments, jibes, snaring, bringing Pakistan in to discussion, political issues etc.

After engaging with Indians for few days, I understand why their scientists and departments play “indigenous” game with Indians.
When the whole population is so blinded with patriotism that it wouldn’t question the clear cut evidence that all these are borrowed technologies and none of the weapons are produced by the Indians, then the department and the scientists are entitle to use this card to hide their deficiencies and failures.

At least someone admitted it may have Charlie II body. We all know designing a weapon is the most important part. If you already had the design available to you including consultancy services from people who actually build the weapon. Then it is dishonesty to call it indigenous.

The actual structure is the main thing fitting in other equipment from different suppliers around the world is quite a common practice in defense industry.

In all three incidents it is proven that the design is not Indian. So the question of “indigenous” does not arrive at all. But if Indians want to insist, then they can go their marry way.

Facts remain, all three product I discussed have taken over 3+ decades to produce despite borrowed designs. Do not fulfil the requirements of the force for which they are produced.

All I have heard are lame excuses and personal remarks, no valid and persuasive arguments to prove their points and prove that these are “indigenous” designs as claimed.

 

[GORKHALI]

What makes me laugh is how sensitive Indians are about their “departments” claim of “indigenous” weapons.

On three different threads, on three different “indigenous” products, I have provided clear cut proofs that all these three products were not indigenous in any sense. No Indian has responded in meaningful way or provided convincing arguments against the evidence produced, despite making personal comments, jibes, snaring, bringing Pakistan in to discussion, political issues etc.

After engaging with Indians for few days, I understand why their scientists and departments play “indigenous” game with Indians.
When the whole population is so blinded with patriotism that it wouldn’t question the clear cut evidence that all these are borrowed technologies and none of the weapons are produced by the Indians, then the department and the scientists are entitle to use this card to hide their deficiencies and failures.

At least someone admitted it may have Charlie II body. We all know designing a weapon is the most important part. If you already had the design available to you including consultancy services from people who actually build the weapon. Then it is dishonesty to call it indigenous.

The actual structure is the main thing fitting in other equipment from different suppliers around the world is quite a common practice in defense industry.

In all three incidents it is proven that the design is not Indian. So the question of “indigenous” does not arrive at all. But if Indians want to insist, then they can go their marry way.

Facts remain, all three product I discussed have taken over 3+ decades to produce despite borrowed designs. Do not fulfil the requirements of the force for which they are produced.

All I have heard are lame excuses and personal remarks, no valid and persuasive arguments to prove their points and prove that these are “indigenous” designs as claimed.

1st thing 1st when you last time were really serious as i can see same rant ,same hehehe and same BS ...Damn!!!even many Indians are still don't know how ARIHANT looks like so how come you ???Now Plz don't tell me that your uncle is working there Akula class is SSN and Arihant is SSBN, now do you understand the difference here or you want me to show some visual aid

 

[Break the Silence]

There Aeronaut, here Myth_buster.. doing all efforts to create a big troll fest in India Defence..Thanx a lot.

 

[Zeluvaa]

What I am saying is. Indigenous or not matters little. What really matter is the ability to actually make and export weapon systems and not rely on importing it. The money which would otherwise be spent on importing could be better invested elsewhere.





P.S. cheers for the news media response, I was too lazy to respond, but I was very grateful for it buddy. It's always nice to learn and understand each other more.

Till a few years back, China was the biggest arms importer in the world. Even today Pakistan imports a considerable amount of arms as percentage of their defense budget, which btw is greater than India's!!!

As China is moving towards indigenizationn and self sufficiency, so is India. The only difference being that we are a few years behind in that process. That is why we are trying, with help of course, to create our own planes, submarines, ships, etc along with TOT so that soon enough we can reduce this dependency on imports.

Of course some people's head are so thick that this concept doesn't seem to enter their heads.

 

[IND151]

some months ago in a thread of pk defense i read that arihant was built under guidance of two Russian scientists who now work for India.

any way arihant is big achievement for India. i guess when we will have 2 to 3 subs like this one would be sent deep inside Indian ocean for patrolling.

 

[kingkobra]

its confirmed that Arihant is on trial in sea
second submarine INS Aridaman is which is being constructed
second sub is twin sub of INS Arihant

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