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Is it pass the IOC look
 
Numbers are to be 84-114. But IA will have a bigger lot.
By 2030 the IA and IAF should have 400-500 attack helos (Apache and LCH) along with another 150-200 Rudras considering there are about 20-30 Mi-25s in service now this is a MASSIVE jump in firepower over a relatively short period.
 
By 2030 the IA and IAF should have 400-500 attack helos (Apache and LCH) along with another 150-200 Rudras considering there are about 20-30 Mi-25s in service now this is a MASSIVE jump in firepower over a relatively short period.
That much fire power is atleast needed of we dream of possessing the capability of doing a blitzkrieg on two fronts.

The bigger thing for me will be that we start building important blocks of such systems at home with quality. Cannons for Aircrafts and Rotary Wing gunships means we depend upon Russia and France. I may be wrong but I haven't seen any thoughts about it.Except an article back in 2009 which said that GIAT offered to, co develop us a 20-25mm canon.

The next thing is ejection seats , Martin Baker Zero Zero has made a great reputation for itself , I am ok even if we start licence producing it.

Then comes the question about power plants. The miniscule amount we spend and how we hope to yield great results form them is ridiculous.

Its like some random nation in Africa without a national budget of more than 1 billion USD telling that we will we prosperous and at the same time have our own formidable air force and navy in a decade..... which is impossible.

It pained me when last week some one pointed out that even if we made the Basic Trainer, its engine is still imported while we dream of building fighter jets with our own engine.

The most important thing is our speed , it makes Sloths speed look like that of Ferrari.
 
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That much fire power is atleast needed of we dream of possessing the capability of doing a blitzkrieg on two fronts.

The bigger thing for me will be that we start building important blocks of such systems at home with quality. Cannons for Aircrafts and Rotary Wing gunships means we depend upon Russia and France. I may be wrong but I haven't seen any thoughts about it.Except an article back in 2016 which said that GIAT offered to, co develop us a 20-25mm canon.

The next thing is ejection seats , Martin Baker Zero Zero has made a great reputation for itself , I am ok even if we start licence producing it.

Then comes the question about power plants. The miniscule amount we spend and how we hope to yield great results form them is ridiculous.

Its like some random nation in Africa without a national budget of more than 1 billion USD telling that we will we prosperous and at the same time have our own formidable air force and navy in a decade..... which is impossible.

It pained me when last week some one pointed out that even if we made the Basic Trainer, its engine is still imported while we dream of building fighter jets with our own engine.

The most important thing is our speed , it makes Sloths speed look like that of Ferrari.
It will happen in time.....
 
HI @Abingdonboy ; @PARIKRAMA @MilSpec @randomradio

Could you please answer my query

With reference to this recent IAF vs PAF thread
I wanted to know the effect of The Higher service ceiling and Loiter time
which SU 30 MKI has as compared to F 16

https://defence.pk/threads/iaf-strike-into-pakistan-a-simulation-of-sorts.430907/

Don't take that thread seriously. He's assumed nautical miles for the F-16's radar and kilometers for the MKI's radar.

To answer your question, both the F-16 and MKI have a similar service ceiling. The MKI can potentially go higher, but it depends on whether the pilots are wearing a spacesuit or not.

And the loiter time depends on whether the F-16 is carrying tanks or not. With tanks, the F-16 can match the MKI, but it will present itself as a bigger and less maneuverable target.
 
HI @Abingdonboy ; @PARIKRAMA @MilSpec @randomradio

Could you please answer my query

With reference to this recent IAF vs PAF thread
I wanted to know the effect of The Higher service ceiling and Loiter time
which SU 30 MKI has as compared to F 16

https://defence.pk/threads/iaf-strike-into-pakistan-a-simulation-of-sorts.430907/
MKI has a higher Service ceiling as a general comment, but it depends on the load out.

MKI also will have a longer range with comparable payload to a F16 BLK 40+, With CFT's F16 will take a range benefit but a payload hit,
 
Su-30 MKI’s maiden test flight with BrahMos missile: 5 reasons why it’s important for IAF and India’s defence capability

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Brahmos, the world’s “most formidable” supersonic cruise missile system, has been successfully integrated and test-flown with the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) Su-30MKI frontline strike fighter! With today’s successful flight, the BrahMos air version programme now inches closer towards actual test firing, when a 2.5-ton BrahMos air-to-ground missile will be fired from the Sukhoi-30 in the coming months. Today’s flight trial has been keenly observed by several other nations in the world in possession of the Su-30 strike fighter who are looking towards acquiring a lethal weapon system for the Russian-made warplanes. We take a look at 5 special facts about today’s development on BrahMos and why it’s important for IAF:

1) Integration of BrahMos supersonic missile system on Su-30 MKI will make the world envy Indian Air Force (IAF), says BrahMos Aerospace CEO & MD Sudhir Kumar Mishra. Speaking to FE Online after the test flight, Mishra said, “This is the most important step in the direction to giving the IAF incredible offensive capability on its frontline fighter aircraft.” Mishra added that no country in the world has a missile system, the likes of BrahMos, integrated on its frontline fighter jets.

2) The demonstration flight, carried out at HAL Nasik, involved carriage of Brahmos weapon on the long-range Sukhoi-30 fighter. This is a a major fillip to IAF.

3) Asked about when the missile system will be test-fired from the Su-30 MKI, Mishra expressed confidence that the test will take place in 2016 itself. “By the end of this year, IAF will be able to proudly say that it has the BrahMos firepower,” he said.

4) The powerful missile will enable the IAF penetrate deep inside the enemy territory to deliver a deadly blow to their vital installations from stand-off ranges. The integration brings a paradigm shift in the capability of the IAF vis-à-vis its adversaries. The Su-30-BRAHMOS combination will carry out air combat operations within and beyond visibility range and will provide the IAF with the capability of attacking targets protected by powerful air defence assets.

5) Integration of BRAHMOS with the Su-30MKI will render the weapon a multi-platform capability while making the IAF the only Air Force in the world in procession of a supersonic cruise missile system.


Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) said on Saturday that 40 frontline fighter Sukhoi would be modified to integrate the air version of supersonic cruise missile BrahMos. HAL chairman T S Raju said that Saturday’s successful demonstration flight of Sukhoi with BrahMos missile in a ‘Mass Dimensional’ profile is a perfect example of Make in India. “It’s an engineering marvel in the aviation history of India. It proves that when all agencies come together with one mission, there is nothing impossible,” says Raju.

HAL said its Nashik Division took up the challenge of creating all necessary data without any assistance from the Original Equipment Manufacturer – the Irkut Corporation. “It is not the techno-economics of the project, but HAL’s commitment to self-reliance which made HAL to sign the contract with BrahMos Aerospace in 2014 for modification of two Su30 MKI aircraft for integration of BrahMos missile,” says Raju.

HAL handed over the first modified Sukhoi to the Indian Air Force during Aero India 2015. Earlier HAL officials had earlier told OneIndia that the integrating the missile was a challenging task for Nasik Division, owing to the limited design data of Su-30 MkI available with them. The home-grown launcher designed and developed by BrahMos Aerospace Thiruvananthapuram Limited was used during today’s mission.

http://idrw.org/su-30-mkis-maiden-t...sons-important-iaf-indias-defence-capability/
 

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