India will have 'super-supercomputer' by 2017

[Daghalodi]

Any news lately about this super duper computer?

Achay din ayenge ke nahi?

 

[tw00tw00]

Any news lately about this super duper computer?

Achay din ayenge ke nahi?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi...a-pipedream/story-ygHlMhu8k8LmNoqm7c43GI.html

Reality check: India's 2017 'fastest supercomputer' plan a pipedream
India’s plans to try and develop by 2017 a supercomputer much faster than any available today are unrealistic and impractical because of technological constraints that have hobbled similar efforts the world over, global and Indian experts have cautioned.

Speaking to HT, these experts – including senior officers of the very government agency tasked with building the supercomputer – have pointed to the challenges of building such a machine anytime in the near future.

A single supercomputer with the speeds proposed by the government will need to be wired to a dedicated nuclear plant as its power supply and will consume the electricity used by over 2 million Indians or 5 lakh homes. That’s apart from the power required to cool it.

And this is a best case scenario.

“It will not be possible to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2017,” said Pradeep K Sinha, director of High Performance Computing (HPC) at the Centre for Development of Advanced Technologies (C-DAC), referring to computing speeds the government project aims to reach. “I myself will say that.”

“But we can and must work on research towards developing such supercomputers,” Sinha said.

Telecom minister Kapil Sibal had last week written to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh seeking Rs. 4700 crore in the 12th Five Year Plan (2012-17) for a project to build petaflop and exaflop speed supercomputers. A petaflop is a measure of computing speeds and an exaflop is 1000 petaflops. Sibal suggested, in his letter to the PM, that C-DAC be asked to build the new supercomputer. C-DAC had built India’s first supercomputer, the PARAM 8000 in 1991, and has since built several more advanced versions. But India’s fastest supercomputer at present has a maximum speed of just 0.3 petaflops – 3000 times less than an exaflop – and ranks 58 among the world’s fastest machines . The world's fastest supercomputer is IBM's Sequoia which has a maximum speed of 16.32 petaflops.

Supercomputers, with their ultra fast processing speeds – equivalent to the combined speeds of thousands of PCs --help in key strategic projects including the N-program, defense projects, and tsunami and cyclone alert systems.

Like India, other major countries – like the US, Germany, China, Japan, the UK, France and Italy -- also have supercomputing programmes, and have been eying the prospect of exaflop speeds for the past few years.

In 2007, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) formed a group of experts to evaluate what it would take to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2015.

The group concluded that “the practical exaflops-class supercomputer DARPA was hoping for just wasn't going to be attainable by 2015. In fact, it might not be possible anytime in the foreseeable future,” team leader Peter Kogge wrote recently in a signed article for the journal IEEE Spectrum .

The DARPA team set out with a goal to evolve a blueprint for an exaflop speed supercomputer that would consume 20MW – the most efficient power consumption they felt could be achieved. They concluded that the supercomputer – if built – would require at least 67 MW. Subsequent analysis has independently pegged a realistic power requirement at 500MW.

But even if Indian scientists could develop a 20MW supercomputer, it would consume 1728 million units of electricity (kWh) in a year – more than the electricity consumed annually by over 2 million Indians. The per capita annual consumption of electricity in India is 780 kWh.

Indian scientists however also cautioned that though exaflop scale supercomputers appear distant at present, the only way come close to building them is by investing in research now.

“They won’t get developed suddenly, overnight,” Sinha said. “Like all the other nations across the world, we too need to invest now in research so that we can evolve a way of building petaflop and then exaflop supercomputers a few years down the line.”

 

[Beast]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi...a-pipedream/story-ygHlMhu8k8LmNoqm7c43GI.html

Reality check: India's 2017 'fastest supercomputer' plan a pipedream
India’s plans to try and develop by 2017 a supercomputer much faster than any available today are unrealistic and impractical because of technological constraints that have hobbled similar efforts the world over, global and Indian experts have cautioned.

Speaking to HT, these experts – including senior officers of the very government agency tasked with building the supercomputer – have pointed to the challenges of building such a machine anytime in the near future.

A single supercomputer with the speeds proposed by the government will need to be wired to a dedicated nuclear plant as its power supply and will consume the electricity used by over 2 million Indians or 5 lakh homes. That’s apart from the power required to cool it.

And this is a best case scenario.

“It will not be possible to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2017,” said Pradeep K Sinha, director of High Performance Computing (HPC) at the Centre for Development of Advanced Technologies (C-DAC), referring to computing speeds the government project aims to reach. “I myself will say that.”

“But we can and must work on research towards developing such supercomputers,” Sinha said.

Telecom minister Kapil Sibal had last week written to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh seeking Rs. 4700 crore in the 12th Five Year Plan (2012-17) for a project to build petaflop and exaflop speed supercomputers. A petaflop is a measure of computing speeds and an exaflop is 1000 petaflops. Sibal suggested, in his letter to the PM, that C-DAC be asked to build the new supercomputer. C-DAC had built India’s first supercomputer, the PARAM 8000 in 1991, and has since built several more advanced versions. But India’s fastest supercomputer at present has a maximum speed of just 0.3 petaflops – 3000 times less than an exaflop – and ranks 58 among the world’s fastest machines . The world's fastest supercomputer is IBM's Sequoia which has a maximum speed of 16.32 petaflops.

Supercomputers, with their ultra fast processing speeds – equivalent to the combined speeds of thousands of PCs --help in key strategic projects including the N-program, defense projects, and tsunami and cyclone alert systems.

Like India, other major countries – like the US, Germany, China, Japan, the UK, France and Italy -- also have supercomputing programmes, and have been eying the prospect of exaflop speeds for the past few years.

In 2007, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) formed a group of experts to evaluate what it would take to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2015.

The group concluded that “the practical exaflops-class supercomputer DARPA was hoping for just wasn't going to be attainable by 2015. In fact, it might not be possible anytime in the foreseeable future,” team leader Peter Kogge wrote recently in a signed article for the journal IEEE Spectrum .

The DARPA team set out with a goal to evolve a blueprint for an exaflop speed supercomputer that would consume 20MW – the most efficient power consumption they felt could be achieved. They concluded that the supercomputer – if built – would require at least 67 MW. Subsequent analysis has independently pegged a realistic power requirement at 500MW.

But even if Indian scientists could develop a 20MW supercomputer, it would consume 1728 million units of electricity (kWh) in a year – more than the electricity consumed annually by over 2 million Indians. The per capita annual consumption of electricity in India is 780 kWh.

Indian scientists however also cautioned that though exaflop scale supercomputers appear distant at present, the only way come close to building them is by investing in research now.

“They won’t get developed suddenly, overnight,” Sinha said. “Like all the other nations across the world, we too need to invest now in research so that we can evolve a way of building petaflop and then exaflop supercomputers a few years down the line.”

SO fast give up? Still has 7 months. Indian can still keep bragging for 7 months before proclaiming as crown(Clown).

There is no doubt Indian are king of bragger. The ridiculous story of Indian trying to build a exascale 132 supercomputer just prove that.

But the thick skinned Indian will then claim supercomputer are useless. They are clocking fast speed just to play computer games and are just chest thumping numbers which has no strategic value.

Yes, maybe building hydrogen/ nuclear weapon and validate 5th gen fighter jet design are also considered useless and no strategic value?

 

[tw00tw00]

SO fast give up? Still has 7 months. Indian can still keep bragging for 7 months before proclaiming as crown(Clown).

There is no doubt Indian are king of bragger. The ridiculous story of Indian trying to build a exascale 132 supercomputer just prove that.

But the thick skinned Indian will then claim supercomputer are useless. They are clocking fast speed just to play computer games and are just chest thumping numbers which has no strategic value.

Yes, maybe building hydrogen/ nuclear weapon and validate 5th gen fighter jet design are also considered useless and no strategic value?

I don't have a good feeling about this: I think the project is dead. Did it ever get off the ground? Can anyone answer this question?

 

[Michael Corleone]

add another 3 to 4 super before the super computer by 2017....


a quick tip to my fellow indians.... saddam built a supercomputer using around 300+ ps2 which had military grade components.... you guys can do sony a favor and buy some ps4 instead you know.... it's gonna be fast.

 

[Daghalodi]

Looks another tejas fiasco!!!

 

[GuardianRED]

Wh

http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi...a-pipedream/story-ygHlMhu8k8LmNoqm7c43GI.html

Reality check: India's 2017 'fastest supercomputer' plan a pipedream
India’s plans to try and develop by 2017 a supercomputer much faster than any available today are unrealistic and impractical because of technological constraints that have hobbled similar efforts the world over, global and Indian experts have cautioned.

Speaking to HT, these experts – including senior officers of the very government agency tasked with building the supercomputer – have pointed to the challenges of building such a machine anytime in the near future.

A single supercomputer with the speeds proposed by the government will need to be wired to a dedicated nuclear plant as its power supply and will consume the electricity used by over 2 million Indians or 5 lakh homes. That’s apart from the power required to cool it.

And this is a best case scenario.

“It will not be possible to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2017,” said Pradeep K Sinha, director of High Performance Computing (HPC) at the Centre for Development of Advanced Technologies (C-DAC), referring to computing speeds the government project aims to reach. “I myself will say that.”

“But we can and must work on research towards developing such supercomputers,” Sinha said.

Telecom minister Kapil Sibal had last week written to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh seeking Rs. 4700 crore in the 12th Five Year Plan (2012-17) for a project to build petaflop and exaflop speed supercomputers. A petaflop is a measure of computing speeds and an exaflop is 1000 petaflops. Sibal suggested, in his letter to the PM, that C-DAC be asked to build the new supercomputer. C-DAC had built India’s first supercomputer, the PARAM 8000 in 1991, and has since built several more advanced versions. But India’s fastest supercomputer at present has a maximum speed of just 0.3 petaflops – 3000 times less than an exaflop – and ranks 58 among the world’s fastest machines . The world's fastest supercomputer is IBM's Sequoia which has a maximum speed of 16.32 petaflops.

Supercomputers, with their ultra fast processing speeds – equivalent to the combined speeds of thousands of PCs --help in key strategic projects including the N-program, defense projects, and tsunami and cyclone alert systems.

Like India, other major countries – like the US, Germany, China, Japan, the UK, France and Italy -- also have supercomputing programmes, and have been eying the prospect of exaflop speeds for the past few years.

In 2007, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) formed a group of experts to evaluate what it would take to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2015.

The group concluded that “the practical exaflops-class supercomputer DARPA was hoping for just wasn't going to be attainable by 2015. In fact, it might not be possible anytime in the foreseeable future,” team leader Peter Kogge wrote recently in a signed article for the journal IEEE Spectrum .

The DARPA team set out with a goal to evolve a blueprint for an exaflop speed supercomputer that would consume 20MW – the most efficient power consumption they felt could be achieved. They concluded that the supercomputer – if built – would require at least 67 MW. Subsequent analysis has independently pegged a realistic power requirement at 500MW.

But even if Indian scientists could develop a 20MW supercomputer, it would consume 1728 million units of electricity (kWh) in a year – more than the electricity consumed annually by over 2 million Indians. The per capita annual consumption of electricity in India is 780 kWh.

Indian scientists however also cautioned that though exaflop scale supercomputers appear distant at present, the only way come close to building them is by investing in research now.

“They won’t get developed suddenly, overnight,” Sinha said. “Like all the other nations across the world, we too need to invest now in research so that we can evolve a way of building petaflop and then exaflop supercomputers a few years down the line.”

What a sad pathetic poster!... Forgot to how to read and posting an article that is 5 years OLD??? That just really SAD

IIT-Kharagpur to get Supercomputing facility
By PTI | Updated: Mar 22, 2017, 10.50 AM IST

KOLKATA: The Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur, is the first academic institution to get a supercomputing facility under the National Supercomputing Mission (NSM).

This will provide large computational support to users to carry out both research and teaching activities that involve state-of-the-art High Performance Computing (HPC) and usher in a new age in research and innovation in the country, an IIT-Kharagpur spokesperson said.

IIT-KGP Director Prof P P Chakrabarti said "The Peta-Flop new system with both CPU and CPU-GPU based servers along with the already existing HPC equipment will provide about 1.5 Peta-Flop capacity support to several areas where the researchers of IIT-KGP are actively involved."

The Institute is setting up a new Centre for Computational and Data Sciences (CCDS) around such a supercomputing platform to build, manage and operate the HPC facility, he said.

Referring to the research areas where the facility will be of use, Prof Chakrabarti said "Faculty members and their research groups at IIT-KGP are already engaged in research in several areas of national importance requiring large computational (both hardware and software) support.

"The facility will cover cutting-edge research scope in different inter-disciplinary areas like bio molecular simulations, drug design and bio-informatics, climate change and digital earth, geo-scientific ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

SO fast give up? Still has 7 months. Indian can still keep bragging for 7 months before proclaiming as crown(Clown).

There is no doubt Indian are king of bragger. The ridiculous story of Indian trying to build a exascale 132 supercomputer just prove that.

But the thick skinned Indian will then claim supercomputer are useless. They are clocking fast speed just to play computer games and are just chest thumping numbers which has no strategic value.

Yes, maybe building hydrogen/ nuclear weapon and validate 5th gen fighter jet design are also considered useless and no strategic value?

What is sad that an elite poster can't do a quality research so see that it is an old article!!!!! ... Sad and pathetic

 

[grey boy 2]

Wh

What a sad pathetic poster!... Forgot to how to read and posting an article that is 5 years OLD??? That just really SAD

IIT-Kharagpur to get Supercomputing facility
By PTI | Updated: Mar 22, 2017, 10.50 AM IST

KOLKATA: The Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur, is the first academic institution to get a supercomputing facility under the National Supercomputing Mission (NSM).

This will provide large computational support to users to carry out both research and teaching activities that involve state-of-the-art High Performance Computing (HPC) and usher in a new age in research and innovation in the country, an IIT-Kharagpur spokesperson said.

IIT-KGP Director Prof P P Chakrabarti said "The Peta-Flop new system with both CPU and CPU-GPU based servers along with the already existing HPC equipment will provide about 1.5 Peta-Flop capacity support to several areas where the researchers of IIT-KGP are actively involved."

The Institute is setting up a new Centre for Computational and Data Sciences (CCDS) around such a supercomputing platform to build, manage and operate the HPC facility, he said.

Referring to the research areas where the facility will be of use, Prof Chakrabarti said "Faculty members and their research groups at IIT-KGP are already engaged in research in several areas of national importance requiring large computational (both hardware and software) support.

"The facility will cover cutting-edge research scope in different inter-disciplinary areas like bio molecular simulations, drug design and bio-informatics, climate change and digital earth, geo-scientific ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst


What is sad that an elite poster can't do a quality research so see that it is an old article!!!!! ... Sad and pathetic

Well, at the end of the day, i believed it still come down to a simple question which is will "Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and the Indian Institute of Science Bangalore are able to develop a supercomputer with 132.8 exaflops within 2017" as claimed?
YES or NO?

 

[Beast]

I don't have a good feeling about this: I think the project is dead. Did it ever get off the ground? Can anyone answer this question?

Get off ground? There is not even ground to start with. 132 exacscale supercomputer where China even struggling to get 1 exascale supercomputer. Yet some people dare to make such absurd claim of getting 132 exascale supercomputer in 2017? I have to take my hat off to Indians. Only they can pull off such joke in front of the whole world. No wonder Indian is going to be supapower.

Well, at the end of the day, i believed it still come down to a simple question which is will "Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and the Indian Institute of Science Bangalore are able to develop a supercomputer with 132.8 exaflops within 2017" as claimed?
YES or NO?

That previous post is just try to divert the absurd claim of Indian capable of delivered a 132 exascale super computer in 2017. End of the day, they make a fool of themselves and delivered an orange instead of apple as claim.

Wh

What a sad pathetic poster!... Forgot to how to read and posting an article that is 5 years OLD??? That just really SAD

IIT-Kharagpur to get Supercomputing facility
By PTI | Updated: Mar 22, 2017, 10.50 AM IST

KOLKATA: The Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur, is the first academic institution to get a supercomputing facility under the National Supercomputing Mission (NSM).

This will provide large computational support to users to carry out both research and teaching activities that involve state-of-the-art High Performance Computing (HPC) and usher in a new age in research and innovation in the country, an IIT-Kharagpur spokesperson said.

IIT-KGP Director Prof P P Chakrabarti said "The Peta-Flop new system with both CPU and CPU-GPU based servers along with the already existing HPC equipment will provide about 1.5 Peta-Flop capacity support to several areas where the researchers of IIT-KGP are actively involved."

The Institute is setting up a new Centre for Computational and Data Sciences (CCDS) around such a supercomputing platform to build, manage and operate the HPC facility, he said.

Referring to the research areas where the facility will be of use, Prof Chakrabarti said "Faculty members and their research groups at IIT-KGP are already engaged in research in several areas of national importance requiring large computational (both hardware and software) support.

"The facility will cover cutting-edge research scope in different inter-disciplinary areas like bio molecular simulations, drug design and bio-informatics, climate change and digital earth, geo-scientific ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst


What is sad that an elite poster can't do a quality research so see that it is an old article!!!!! ... Sad and pathetic

What sad you mean ,Indian? So now so fast change claim from 132 exascale to 1.5 petaflop?

So it's so sad Indian make absurd claim of 132 exascale supercomputer in 2017.

 

[ashok321]

India will have 'super-supercomputer' by 2017

What is that probability for above to happen?

Can a 550 pound Sumo wrestler walk a tight rope?
Yes.

But have you seen one?

 

[rcrmj]

the country really does have no shame, useless, hopeless and a total joke

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi...a-pipedream/story-ygHlMhu8k8LmNoqm7c43GI.html

Reality check: India's 2017 'fastest supercomputer' plan a pipedream
India’s plans to try and develop by 2017 a supercomputer much faster than any available today are unrealistic and impractical because of technological constraints that have hobbled similar efforts the world over, global and Indian experts have cautioned.

Speaking to HT, these experts – including senior officers of the very government agency tasked with building the supercomputer – have pointed to the challenges of building such a machine anytime in the near future.

A single supercomputer with the speeds proposed by the government will need to be wired to a dedicated nuclear plant as its power supply and will consume the electricity used by over 2 million Indians or 5 lakh homes. That’s apart from the power required to cool it.

And this is a best case scenario.

“It will not be possible to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2017,” said Pradeep K Sinha, director of High Performance Computing (HPC) at the Centre for Development of Advanced Technologies (C-DAC), referring to computing speeds the government project aims to reach. “I myself will say that.”

“But we can and must work on research towards developing such supercomputers,” Sinha said.

Telecom minister Kapil Sibal had last week written to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh seeking Rs. 4700 crore in the 12th Five Year Plan (2012-17) for a project to build petaflop and exaflop speed supercomputers. A petaflop is a measure of computing speeds and an exaflop is 1000 petaflops. Sibal suggested, in his letter to the PM, that C-DAC be asked to build the new supercomputer. C-DAC had built India’s first supercomputer, the PARAM 8000 in 1991, and has since built several more advanced versions. But India’s fastest supercomputer at present has a maximum speed of just 0.3 petaflops – 3000 times less than an exaflop – and ranks 58 among the world’s fastest machines . The world's fastest supercomputer is IBM's Sequoia which has a maximum speed of 16.32 petaflops.

Supercomputers, with their ultra fast processing speeds – equivalent to the combined speeds of thousands of PCs --help in key strategic projects including the N-program, defense projects, and tsunami and cyclone alert systems.

Like India, other major countries – like the US, Germany, China, Japan, the UK, France and Italy -- also have supercomputing programmes, and have been eying the prospect of exaflop speeds for the past few years.

In 2007, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) formed a group of experts to evaluate what it would take to build an exaflop speed supercomputer by 2015.

The group concluded that “the practical exaflops-class supercomputer DARPA was hoping for just wasn't going to be attainable by 2015. In fact, it might not be possible anytime in the foreseeable future,” team leader Peter Kogge wrote recently in a signed article for the journal IEEE Spectrum .

The DARPA team set out with a goal to evolve a blueprint for an exaflop speed supercomputer that would consume 20MW – the most efficient power consumption they felt could be achieved. They concluded that the supercomputer – if built – would require at least 67 MW. Subsequent analysis has independently pegged a realistic power requirement at 500MW.

But even if Indian scientists could develop a 20MW supercomputer, it would consume 1728 million units of electricity (kWh) in a year – more than the electricity consumed annually by over 2 million Indians. The per capita annual consumption of electricity in India is 780 kWh.

Indian scientists however also cautioned that though exaflop scale supercomputers appear distant at present, the only way come close to building them is by investing in research now.

“They won’t get developed suddenly, overnight,” Sinha said. “Like all the other nations across the world, we too need to invest now in research so that we can evolve a way of building petaflop and then exaflop supercomputers a few years down the line.”

Look at this cartoon.. picked up a 2012 news item and went orgasmic about it...

Here is something latest you dumbo: http://tech.firstpost.com/news-anal...-powerful-supercomputers-in-india-368290.html

the country really does have no shame, useless, hopeless and a total joke

Yes when it comes to achieving something.. e are as shameless as Chinese :http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-building-a-supercomputer-juggernaut/article17363153.ece

 

[MULUBJA]

the country really does have no shame, useless, hopeless and a total joke

When you and your fellow members write this, it tells a lot about yourself. Read the article. Bhatkars gives optimistic time line 2017 and latest bu 2020. This is a huge project designed on Flexible bus architect. It will just consume 10% electricity which other super computers consumes for computation.
When we shall commission that, I know whole 50 cent army will disappear from PDF like they disappeared from on the thread when India launched 104 satellite and chinese media ask china to learn from India. We know how you guys were bragging when we conceive Mars mission and we planned 104 satellite launch. Now your mouths are shut. Keep bragging for couple of more years. When we shall launch it, you will not have any place to hide.

 

[Jlaw]

Look at this cartoon.. picked up a 2012 news item and went orgasmic about it...

Here is something latest you dumbo: http://tech.firstpost.com/news-anal...-powerful-supercomputers-in-india-368290.html


Yes when it comes to achieving something.. e are as shameless as Chinese :http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-building-a-supercomputer-juggernaut/article17363153.ece

The article did say India built supercomputer since the, 1990s.

"Though India has built or hosted supercomputers since the 1990s, it held a ‘top 10’ spot only once, in 2007, thanks to the EKA built by the Computational Research Laboratories, which is part of the Tata group. This position was lost, though several ultra-fast machines exist in Indian academic institutions: they feature in the 100s or 200s in global rankings."

Not a big deal if I see an Indian supercomputer in 2017.

 

[Dungeness]

Well, at the end of the day, i believed it still come down to a simple question which is will "Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and the Indian Institute of Science Bangalore are able to develop a supercomputer with 132.8 exaflops within 2017" as claimed?
YES or NO?

Promise the Moon, deliver a Rotie?