But how does one know what God had said or did not say? Is it based on the words of the prophet or messenger you believe in? If so are you not believing in the prophet or the messenger rather than the God?
I am totally confused. Does the faith in the prophet or the messenger has primacy over faith in the god?
They are confused, so obviously we will also be. What I read in Koran and what these members have been saying are like poles apart. They are reading the holy book as per some one and not as per the prophet himself. He never said this sect or that sect is not muslim, indeed he welcomed all to follow the true path of god .... now we have these new age translators of his thinking .... !!!! Starts with ISIS-Taliban-AQ-Wahabis ... all bunched up under the same umbrella and then we have the idiots claiming to be of Barelvi and Deobandi schools and talking more crap. The actual sensible and true Muslim is being increasingly marginalized and the center stage usurped by idiots ... sad story of all the religions actually but here they are really messing me up with their interpretation of the holy teachings.
Sir, you have to dig deeply and understand it. We are talking with the Islamic point of view & this religion itself teaches you to ask question to understand the matters. Quran has cleared it with the evidences. Even bible and Torah are the evidences.
Faith in God is primary of course. But there are few principles (must be followed) to be Muslims. Not just with Islam all the Faiths out there have some basic concepts and some principles
I agree, having been blessed to have read the holy book myself albeit not an expert on it, but broadly the teachings are indeed enlightening and at times eerily are no different from other holy books whose wisdom indeed has been lost by humans over the time. When it was claimed on the thread earlier that it is not easy to become Muslim, in fact, it was a false hood that was claimed. The first and foremost requirement of becoming one was the belief in God being one and Prophet Muhammad being the messenger,
Shahada.... you don't need to know Arabic, you don't need to be Arabic, you don't need to know a thing about Islam, you don't need to change the name, you must follow the fitrah till as such that you do not get into bodily harm as the holy book permits.
And also, anyone who believes in the one true god and follows the one true religion, is a Muslim ... so the debate of Ahmedis etc is simply bigoted and ridiculous. Nay it is a disbeliver and the person who propagates it must undertake a jihad to cleanse him/herself of his falsehood.
Because you pulled a Kargil, that's why there are as many troops as there is. And those figures seem absurd, you dont need nearly as much to do what's needed. It's almost a burden at those numbers.
Nope there. Its not coz they pulled a Kargil, it is because we don't pull a FATA or Waziristan in valley that there are that many troops. The PA went in with aircraft, tanks and artillery in addition to SF and regular infantry along with paramilitary forces, displaced millions internally and flattened towns in certain instances. Indian reaction is much low level, highly specified and very well calibrated. That is why the need for higher number of troops. Don't get bogged down in this, their problem is that our troop levels have ensured they can do squat in valley!!!
He was talking something very positive for Indian subcontinent, but both Pakistan and India will never ever accept such type of analysis. Europe understood that two centuries ago, and they are happy now.
Ha!!! A sensible voice .......!
Sarry I hurt yaar fillings
How old or rather how young are you? The style shows around 16? Anyways, its not my feelings - they are VIP's always!!
Coming back to the point, good men and women, cutting across religious lines have died for the nation, you owe it to them to calibrate your wordings that's all.
Communism, Socialism, Congress democracy, BJP dictatorship, - all have failed. People in India still commit suicide out of hunger - around 15,000 last year. More than half of the population is up in arms against Delhi. They feel oppressed and occupied, and refuse to call themselves Indians. The only salvation to SA will come - and it will definitely come, when the Muslims return to revive the Sultanat e Hindustan.
Opium was the hallmark of the Mughal .. are you already reliving the days my dear friend?
bra majja ay ga
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hm shehzada saleem hain
Bra majja ay ga? You are happy at seeing bra?