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India will DESTROY Pak CRIPPLE China in twofront nuclear war:Retd Indian army lieutenant bs Jaswal

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In case of China doing away with no first use policy it can negatively effect the defense/political atmosphere on a global scale. China is rising fast...and most countries on earth including USA have recognized that, fully expecting China to be a global power in the near future(though some consider that it's already the case).

With the currently changing alliances...and a shift in US strategy to stop a challenge from an emerging China...some friction has arisen. If China does away with no first use policy, it can have a domino effect with the US and its allies potentially following suit bcuz they(mostly US) see China as a potential adversary. This in turn can lead Russia to do away with it bcuz Russia sees USA/(UK and France...NATO) as an adversary.

...and so basically there's a risk of all nuclear powers ending no first use policy...bringing the doom's day clock closer to midnight.
Also no nuclear armed nation of West and Russians won't go against another nuclear power,unlike we Asians they are more civilized and practical minded and sees theirs life standard has more value than some geopolitical pride. But I fear India,Pak and China may go for war in future.
 
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Is this guy mad?? fighting a two front war is a nightmare for anybody.
 
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I love these kind of threads in Pakistani forums and their reactions.:lol:

Chil Bharti . Joke is actually on you lot having such immature jokers in your establishment. Plenty of entertainment for us though. Our response to such diatribes can be summarised as below.

 
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why stop there ,India will destroy US/RUSSIA/UK?AUSTRALIA/MARTIANS/MOON and known/unknown galaxy countries

why not? We shall also destroy all kinds of universes (Both parallel, convergent)
 
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He is an ex.
There's plenty of examples of currently serving Indian servicemen doing the same...specially the current general of the Indian army. Idk why he feels the need that he has to issue these kinds of feel good/chest thumping statements every now and then. These kinds of things can make a professional army look like a joke.
China is already a global power. May be second or third.
There is no clear cut definition of a global power...it can depend on a few parameters ranging from having a large economy/GDP, soft power, military capability etc. In my opinion China is pretty close...China meets almost all the prerequisites but I think one key requirement of being a global power should be the ability to project force AROUND THE WORLD. On that end China still has some catching up to do.

- China would require a substantial ability to transport troops/tanks/IFVs/etc in a relatively short time like US was able to do in case of Afghanistan or Iraq.
- On Navy's part, it requires several aircraft carrier groups
- Several nuclear submarines(with nuke tipped ICBMs) to be able to carry out a nuclear attack on any country in the world.

The first two are necessary to project force if needed in a conventional manner. The last one is more of a deterrence thing to keep other nuclear powers at bay with the threat of MAD...

...all this obviously has to be backed by a strong industrialized economy and technological prowess, which China already has along with soft power. So in my opinion China is a soon to be a global power but it is not one yet.
 
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Sir, only love? It does not make sense. Let alone the reaction of Pakistanis. Being a senior member we need your thoughts and comments on such statements.
It will enhance our knowledge and we will better understand each other.

See, it's Sunday and Party time with friends. We meet after 8 PM. After we have two pegs we can destroy everything.:D. What reaction man? Just get entertained and go back to work.

I only get saddened when these border clashes actually takes place and there is loss of lives.....on both sides.
 
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What he said is correct my friends,the strategic depth of Pakistan isn't favorinfaany massive nuclear strike,you can't contain the massive nuclear retaliation.
But in any all nuclear war all the particapants are losers ,no gainers.

Kid, we promise we will send you back to stone age on our own. China won't need to bother about anything.
 
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See, it's Sunday and Party time with friends. We meet after 8 PM. After we have two pegs we can destroy everything.:D. What reaction man? Just get entertained and go back to work.

I only get saddened when these border clashes actually takes place and there is loss of lives.....on both sides.
Sir, I got the message and good of you :enjoy:.
 
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There's plenty of examples of currently serving Indian servicemen doing the same...specially the current general of the Indian army. Idk why he feels the need that he has to issue these kinds of feel good/chest thumping statements every now and then. These kinds of things can make a professional army look like a joke.

There is no clear cut definition of a global power...it can depend on a few parameters ranging from having a large economy/GDP, soft power, military capability etc. In my opinion China is pretty close...China meets almost all the prerequisites but I think one key requirement of being a global power should be the ability to project force AROUND THE WORLD. On that end China still has some catching up to do.

- China would require a substantial ability to transport troops/tanks/IFVs/etc in a relatively short time like US was able to do in case of Afghanistan or Iraq.
- On Navy's part, it requires several aircraft carrier groups
- Several nuclear submarines(with nuke tipped ICBMs) to be able to carry out a nuclear attack on any country in the world.

The first two are necessary to project force if needed in a conventional manner. The last one is more of a deterrence thing to keep other nuclear powers at bay with the threat of MAD...

...all this obviously has to be backed by a strong industrialized economy and technological prowess, which China already has along with soft power. So in my opinion China is a soon to be a global power but it is not one yet.
China will never go the way US did, bleeding themselve dry. We perceive the global power differently from what US does, we also prefer winning a war without firing a single shot. Don't use guns when you can get things done with money.
 
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Pakistan will be thrown back to stone age China will be crippled but there will be no India.

Most of the few dozen missiles meant for China would be intercepted and so any damage is likely to be minor.

Pakistan would take heavier losses but would certainly not be totally destroyed. India will not be able to launch more than a few dozens(fission only?) missiles at Pakistan with most of the strike aircraft with nuclear weapons intercepted by PAF or shot down by air-defences

Indian cities, ports, military installations etc would be totally destroyed by Chinese hydrogen bomb strikes and will split along it's many ethnic lines.
 
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Most of the few dozen missiles meant for China would be intercepted and so any damage is likely to be minor.

Pakistan would take heavier losses but would certainly not be totally destroyed. India will not be able to launch more than a few dozens(fission only?) missiles at Pakistan with most of the strike aircraft with nuclear weapons intercepted by PAF or shot down by air-defences

Indian cities, ports, military installations etc would be totally destroyed by Chinese hydrogen bomb strikes and will split along it's many ethnic lines.

In a nucelar war, India will be split into many countries and finally revert back to pre colonial India. Thus ending British India as it is to day.
 
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