India watches anxiously as Chinese influence grows

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

India didnt invited US or West in that disputed land.

But the result is the same, you built rail and road in disputed area.

 

[SrNair]

But the result is the same, you built rail and road in disputed area.

Result is no same .
What would be your response if we invite US in Arunacahal Pradesh ?
A mere comment from US consulate about AP is giving a lots of pain to Beijing then what about if they involves ?
They are not involving because we restricts them .But if you want to provoke us then Ok go for it .But noone going to wins in this game .

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Result is no same .
What would be your response if we invite US in Arunacahal Pradesh ?
A mere comment from US consulate about AP is giving a lots of pain to Beijing then what about if they involves ?
They are not involving because we restricts them .But if you want to provoke us then Ok go for it .But noone going to wins in this game .

Even US wouldn't dare to help Philippine to reclaim their reefs in SCS or help Vietnam on oil exploration in contest zone, what make you think they want to antagonize China by helping India in this contested region?. In the worse case scenario, we would response by making sure that your dinking water will not be tasty, what within our territory we rule. And not only that we will help others Nation that has conflicting interest with US, they will never earn China's cooperation to maintain peace as American desire if they start to create trouble for us, we will certainly make them pay elsewhere.

 

[SrNair]

Even US wouldn't dare to help Philippine to reclaim their reefs in SCS or help Vietnam on oil exploration in contest zone, what make you think they want to antagonize China by helping India in this contested region?. In the worse case scenario, we would response by making sure that your dinking water will not be tasty, what within our territory we rule, if China has come to play this card, so be it and we shall see who will prevail.

You are Comparing India with Philippines ?
Says a lots about your knowledge

We are not involving US in there because we have an independent policy .And we know how to handle the situation .But if we do that you can do nothing about it .
Really? US knows the huge benefits if we side with them .They can single handedly change the balance in Asia forever .
Neither India is Phillipines nor China is US .

That is maximum you can do against us . nothing more .Tin pot dictators is better than that.
Tributaries in our land also says otherwise

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You are Comparing India with Philippines ?
Says a lots about your knowledge

We are not involving US in there because we have an independent policy .And we know how to handle the situation .But if we do that you can do nothing about it .
Really? US knows the huge benefits if we side with them .They can single handedly change the balance in Asia forever .
Neither India is Phillipines nor China is US .

That is maximum you can do against us . nothing more .Tin pot dictators is better than that.
Tributaries in our land also says otherwise

Really, didn't you guys invite Japan to do some projects in South Tibet? and what is their answer, because Japan know that land is not belong to India so they turned down your requests. you guys already make a failing attempt, you can always try again with US and we shall see how US will respond and then start from there.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Malacca is the busiest sea lane in the world from where 90% of Chinese import and 50 % of exports go through.

Sorry. No can do. Assume India's dumps herd of elephants and blockades the Straits of Malacca what are we left with. Oh no, just sail south (blue alternative route) and navigate in between Sumatra and Java. Adds about 400 miles. You sure China will cramp up because of 400 miles extra?

Look at map below.

 

[Zibago]

P0k is a disputed land. And Chinese interefere in there .so we will take actions

Well China can do whatever they want and we will continue our developments for our own national interests .
Perhaps it may undermine Chinese interests in other sectors .
After all we are the world fastest growing economy.

Only to you not us in Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan

India didnt invited US or West in that disputed land.



Before asking to us ,you should withdrawn all non Kashmiris from P0K



get a life stupid .I dont have to explain it again.

What if i tell you that all are natives and non natives natives cant buy land in AJK and GB?

 

[SrNair]

Only to you not us in Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan


What if i tell you that all are natives and non natives natives cant buy land in AJK and GB?

We only cares about GoI opinion.

Ya right .
And according to your own members a lots of Punjabis are in Kashmir .

Really, didn't you guys invite Japan to do some projects in South Tibet? and what is their answer, because Japan know that land is not belong to India so they turned down your requests. you guys already make a failing attempt, you can always try again with US and we shall see how US will respond and then start from there.

Again your knowledge is very astounding .
Japan is just a small ally of mighty US .
If we want US in AP they will be there in AP and Chinese warning ministry can only issue warnings .
But we know how to deal the problem so they are not allowed

 

[Zibago]

We only cares about GoI opinion.

Ya right .
And according to your own members a lots of Punjabis are in Kashmir .



Again your knowledge is very astounding .
Japan is just a small ally of mighty US .
If we want US in AP they will be there in AP and Chinese warning ministry can only issue warnings .
But we know how to deal the problem so they are not allowed

In the plain regions of Mirpur(which neighbours Gujrat in Punjab) Punjabi is a minority language(major language is pothwari/pahari)
Central districts are mainly pahari speaking(different from pothwari but with many similar words) and Northern districts have Kashmiri,Sheena and Hindko speakers

Non natives cant own property or own bussiness in Azad Kashmir thats why its so hard to develop Azad Kashmir,s industrial sector

 

[Photon]

Sorry. No can do. Assume India's dumps herd of elephants and blockades the Straits of Malacca what are we left with. Oh no, just sail south (blue alternative route) and navigate in between Sumatra and Java. Adds about 400 miles. You sure China will cramp up because of 400 miles extra?

Look at map below.

Looks very easy on the paper , doesn't it.

Afterall one can avoid, all the traffic of Mallaca Straits , one can avoid all the piracy areas and it is just 400 miles longer, thats is little more than half a day of sailing.

Then why doesn't the shipping industry use this alternate route, you suggested?

Because there exists, no route, it is all shallow patches and reefs.

China had also planned to built Kra Isthmus Canal , to build a viable alternative to Malacca but it did not pick off.


The Importance of the Straits of Malacca
ROBERT POTTER, SEP 7 2012, 7593 VIEWS

The growth of the Chinese economy has been accompanied by a commensurate rise in a dependence upon offshore resources. The United States is certainly dependent upon oil from zones of international tension. However, in the case of China, this dependence is far more pronounced. The United States sources over 50% of its oil imports from the western hemisphere whereas China is far more dependent upon reserves from places like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Angola. At this point, China’s energy dependence upon oil from the Middle-East is roughly comparable to the maximum figure reached by the United States.

The Chinese trend in energy dependence in oil is repeated if one widens the scope to include other sources of energy. For example, in the case of natural gas China is a relatively large producer of energy but in recent years an imports have exceeded the level of production. In the case of Coal, China is a major producer and has through great efforts, managed to remain a net exporter, but only by a very narrow margin. This shows a clear overall trend of increasing energy dependence.

These sources of energy dependence create a dilemma for Chinese policy makers. Raising the question, ‘what should they do to create energy security for themselves?’ The issue of where to source the energy from is of course the most obvious one. However, let us put this aside for now and look at the security problems of ensuring that these resources continue to flow into China.

If we once again focus upon oil, the vast majority of China’s oil imports pass through the Straits of Malacca, Lombok and Sunda. This creates a security issue for China as the Straits function as a strategic ‘chokepoint‘ through which China’s energy supply must pass. Essentially, whoever controls the Straits of Malacca has the ability to heavily disrupt a vital energy corridor to China. The government of China is no doubt acutely aware of its energy dependence and the vulnerability of this supply.

Even if China were able to diversify the direct method of supply any major power with the ability to deny or frustrate Chinese access to the general area would be able to impact China’s energy security in ways that Beijing is no doubt uncomfortable with. In raw terms, passage through the Straits of Malacca amounts to around 80% of China’s oil imports, meaning that some 40% of general consumption.

It is important to recognise that for the most part this concern is abstract. It would take a large international incident for a major power to consider blocking this energy transit line to China. However, it is in this area that China’s security strategy comes under its highest pressure.

The development of the Chinese military has focused on the ability of their forces to engage in anti-access or area-denial capability. The basic outline of an anti-access area denial strategy is that while a state cannot defeat the United States in a conventional conflict, it can invest in cheaper alternatives that restrict the ability of the United States to deploy it’s advantages. The United States has developed method of thinking about how to counter this sort of strategy through the development of its ‘Air-Sea Battle‘ doctrine. That is, the matching of a particular capability to a specific need in such a way as to maximise the outcome and minimise the risk.

In a theoretical conflict in the South China Sea, the Chinese could seek to deny access to the United States, thus keeping their military outside of the conflict zone. The proximity this sea to the Chinese mainland means that its area denial capabilities are at their strongest in this area. The United States no doubt has access strategies but a state seeking to check an action in this region has other options. China is not the only power capable of using an anti-access, area-denial strategy. China itself is vulnerable to this sort of a doctrine. As we have previously discussed, a state could deny China it’s strategically vital resources by blocking the Strait of Malacca or interrupting this supply at some point along the transport route.

While this sort of conflict only exists as an abstract, it is a point of concern for any Chinese thinkers attempting to develop security. The Chinese thinker Zeng Fenggang has postulated that India will seek to develop a capability to guard the straits of Malacca in peacetime and blockade it during wartime. Even if this is not the case, it shows that China and Indian planners are no doubt working in the same strategic space. It is entirely possible that India would not be comfortable with a major Chinese capability located in the area to protect its trade route. Meaning that any Chinese attempts to alleviate its energy security dilemma will occur in the strategic vicinity of India. Therefor, China faces a prospect of risking a decline one security relationship if it attempts to act on another.

Thus the security situation in the region is highly complicated and must continue to be studied and managed. Appreciating the strategic importance of the Straits of Malacca, China’s energy dependence and the complex nature of the situation is no doubt important fodder for students of International Security.

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Robert Potter is a Visiting Scholar at Columbia University. His research interests include international security theory, Australian foreign policy, international norms, managing relationships in a changing security environment and human rights. Potter has been investigating how international security theory can be developed for specific use by middle powers. He is presently studying how security theory can be applied to the changing Asia-Pacific security environment.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Again your knowledge is very astounding .
Japan is just a small ally of mighty US .
If we want US in AP they will be there in AP and Chinese warning ministry can only issue warnings .
But we know how to deal the problem so they are not allowed

Lol I just expose how hypocritical India is: first you guys wanted to invite Japan to work on South Tibet to counter what we're doing in Kashmir without any success because Japan didn't recognize AP as part of India. Then a failure with Japan has turned India into a whiner regarding CPEC. And now you're trying to brag on how you can get US involved in South Tibet? US has much interest to work with China for their future instead of get involved into the territorial dispute that is not concerned Americans, and we don't need to warn anything because we know that India will never able to get US involved into this disputed land.

 

[Jinn Baba]

F India!!! Sick of these whiny bitches

 

[Max]

Before asking to us ,you should withdrawn all non Kashmiris from P0K

only Kashmiris have citizenship of Kashmir, no other Pakistani can buy property or vote in Kashmir even if he live there for decades, cant tell about how much hindu you have exported to Indian occupied Kashmir on the name of Pundits..

 

[MilSpec]

With what?? The 80 some ships 80% of which are as obsolete as my grandpa's Mustang from the 50's?? Or the mighty SU's which can't get past the mountains between India and China, let alone, get to a major Chinese city (unless you think Tibet is Beijing ), or with the obsolete fleet of majority of the Subs? Or with the older aircraft carrier who'se runway remains closed when it rains and outside of Harriers, its limited used by Mig-29's......help me understand so I can understand your startegy

With fake Enzo's, thats how, false flag PMLN troll.

Little does the false flag knows that Ford Mustangs were introduced in 60's, so your grandpa's mustang is just as fake as your Ferrari.... LMAO....
@Roybot

 

[Max]

India can conduct plebiscite only when the first condition as per UN resolution is completed I.e complete withdrawal of Pakistani troops from P0k.

Indian fantasy.. UN ask both Pakistan and India to withdraw tribal and citizen of both countries..

regarding forces UN has said that both dominion in there part of Kashmir will keep minimum forces to insure peace and stability and both state would be answerable to UN commission for their actions.