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India, US agree on end user monitoring pact

US dont need 3rd world country by the way.

US easily sell any military equipment to any other country (especially Arabs) .. because thy are heavily richi-rich!

for thy knowledge i let me bring to your notice that india is the one of biggest military spender at present time (yes its biger than arab country) and to create a niche market for it defence industry which itself is goinng through a phase of recession
Aerospace giant Boeing to lay off 1,000 employees in its Boeing’s defense unit; ntegrated Defense Systems (IDS)|CEOWORLD Magazine

Layoff Tracker: Boeing to cut 1,000 jobs at Integrated Defense Systems

is in urgent need for new customers to support its infrastructure.and there is no customers as big as INDIA for U.Swith more tha 40billion dollar allocated for defence not even the arab world right now(not because they dont have but because they dont need).


and once again India is not like pakistan of 80's which solely dependant upon us for its defence requirement ,India does not keep all the tricks in the same hat....especially watching pakistan and Iran 90's when it brought the fighters from u.s before islamic uprising..will never be solely dependant on u.s for its civil nuclear and purchases it has got agreement with France Russia and Germany as well ..

and please dont consider as flame or troll "dus saal kisne dekha hai shayad aap na rahe shayad koi na rahe"
 
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Whats wrong with people here, its just pure business. The Americans want to sell their military hardware and the Indians have the $$$ to buy this hardware. End User Pact is standard whenever any Non Nato Country wants to buy any American hardware, for India its a must because the Americans dont want Russians snooping in. Enough with conspiracies, America is in desperate need of $$ right now and India is in desperate need of American military hardware. Although it is true that US is supporting India so they can be a counter weight to the Red Dragon, but in the end i believe the Indians will be making their own decisions although they will be infleunced somewhat by the Yanks.
 
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Tuesday, Jul 21, 2009

NEW DELHI: India and the U.S. on Monday finalised three hi-tech agreements with the visiting Secretary of State Hillary Clinton singling out the military end user agreement as the harbinger of greater defence cooperation.

The other two agreements are the Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA), a type of end user agreement in the space sector, which will pave the way for the use of U.S. components in Indian satellites, and the Science and Technology Cooperation Agreement, signed by External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna and Ms. Clinton just before their joint media interaction.

Ms. Clinton announced that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had accepted U.S. President Barack Obama’s invitation to visit Washington on November 24. This, she noted, would be the first state visit under the new Administration.

Dr. Singh informed Ms. Clinton of India’s approval of two sites for setting up U.S.-made nuclear power stations.

The Foreign Minister-level interaction touched on evolving a new dialogue architecture for furthering the Indo-U.S. strategic relationship, the situation in the region, completing all elements of the civil nuclear agreement, strengthening the goal of non-proliferation, “pragmatic” approach to tackling climate change, fighting terrorism jointly and evolving fair global trading rules.

At her meeting with Dr. Singh, Ms. Clinton expressed her strong commitment to further the strategic partnership but at the news conference she admitted that both countries had “different perspectives” on several issues and resolved to “work through” the divergence of views. On Iran too, she said there was a “lot to discuss” but drew comfort from the fact that both countries felt that global security would be threatened if Tehran acquired nuclear weapons.

The Hindu : Front Page : India, U.S. firm up 3 hi-tech pacts
 
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The india USA relationship politically by Clintons Bush and soon Mannmmohan to Washinton is a long term USA to get india into a USA INDIA JAPAN nexus to encircle CHINA.

The USA needs India to be Economically powerful with big GDP & Forex and a powerful hitech military

American investment into India will ensure a India with a mluti trillion $$$ gdp then india will spend some of their $$ on USA hardware.

WIN WIN for USA

For india they can ditch their SOVIET era MIG21/27/29 for shinny new F18SH with their AESA.. radars and hi tech JAMMERS etc.

So win win for IAF too
 
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Everybody knows who help china in 1970. Now they try to help india with indian money. For me it's simple bussines. After all it's agreement so india have option to buy hardware. If they need our business it's fine or tata. If you want to clapp you need two hand.
 
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The india USA relationship politically by Clintons Bush and soon Mannmmohan to Washinton is a long term USA to get india into a USA INDIA JAPAN nexus to encircle CHINA.

The USA needs India to be Economically powerful with big GDP & Forex and a powerful hitech military

American investment into India will ensure a India with a mluti trillion $$$ gdp then india will spend some of their $$ on USA hardware.

WIN WIN for USA

For india they can ditch their SOVIET era MIG21/27/29 for shinny new F18SH with their AESA.. radars and hi tech JAMMERS etc.

So win win for IAF too

friend its china who is encircling india through bangladesh, myanmar, shri lanka and pakistan. So i dont think its bad idea to join usa and japan. That would be unmatchable power because i doubt russia would join china if there is future war. India needs not only weapons but best technology weapons. Usa, israel, france and russia is india's hope.
 
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Strategic Partnership for Hillary means taking $40 billion of Bharati money
Posted on July 21, 2009 by Moin Ansari
Strategic partnership means a two way street. However many times it is a one way street.

The strange thing about the Indo-US “strategic partnership” is that it is like the Strategic Partnership of the East India Company and the 570 states of South Asia. There was the strategic partnership to take over of Bengal. There was the strategic partnership to import useless textiles from Manchester and the strategic partnership to destroy Muslim production in Bengal. There was the Doctrine of Lapse strategic partnership. There was the strategic partnership for the monopoly of poppy/heroin production. Then there was the strategic partnership to export heroin to China forcing them to buy opium in the First Opium War and then the 2nd Opium war. Then there was the strategic partnership t build railways–with one caveat–they would always run from the port to the gold mine, the salt mine or the poppy warehouses. Then of course there was the strategic partnership to take over Delhi.

Bharat in its mad rush for prestige and power is buying arms it can ill afford, and purchase goods that it cannot pay for. Hillary Clinton of course will take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. A country where 75% of the population susbsists on less than $2 per day is spending $40 Billion on rustable iron and steel. A few decades ago, Bharat did the same–it went out and bought hundreds of Mig 21s. The Flying Coffins either crashed, or were eventually trashed.

Now, Delhi is on another buying spree projecting a drunken sailor who doesn’t know what to do when he lands on shore, so he spends all his money on shiny things. The trinkets don’t mean anything.

Buying all this equipment can mean only one thing. Bharat cannot produce it. China achieves techonological independence in arms production. Bharat is thus the only nation that cannot produce planes worth anything. Its Tejas is still being designed after 20 years of development, its Arjun tank is useless and its missiles program has been scrapped (Trishul, Agni, and Nag etc)

NEW DELHI (AFP/Reuters) – India and the United States agreed Monday a defence deal expected to boost US arms sales here, as New Delhi also approved sites for two US nuclear reactors, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said.

At a joint press conference with Foreign Minister SM Krishna, Clinton said the two sides had agreed on “end-use monitoring” arrangement that would provide safeguards for the sale of sophisticated US weaponry to India.

The agreement “will pave the way for greater defence cooperation” Clinton said, while Krishna said it would help the “procurement of US defence technology to India.”

The two agreements gave Clinton tangible accomplishments from a trip designed to deepen ties and demonstrate US President Barack Obama’s commitment to India’s emergence as a player on the global stage.

“We have agreed on the end-use monitoring arrangement which would refer to Indian procurement of US defence technology and equipment,” India’s External Affairs Minister, SM Krishna, told the news conference.

Known as an “end-use monitoring” agreement and required by US law for such weapons sales, the pact would let Washington check that India was using any arms for the purposes intended and was preventing the technology from leaking to others.

A US official said the arrangement was for a provision to be written into future defence contracts, guaranteeing sensitive equipment will be used for its intended purpose and not transferred to a third party.

India is expected to spend more than $30 billion over the next five years on upgrading its largely Soviet-made arsenal, roughly a third of which will be a contract to buy 126 multi-role fighters.

That could prove a boon to US companies like Lockheed Martin Corp and Boeing Co. Nation

Many in the West have now belatedly realised that China has crossed the threshold on Military Technology Independence and is no longer dependant on Russia for it defense needs. China’s phenomenal growth in the economic and manufacturing sector have allowed it to experiment and produce aircraft and missiles without Russian help. Unlike India which has yet to produce its own aircraft (LCA is still being designed after a decade of wasted effort) or missiles (Indian missle failures. Scrap the program? Agni, Trishul, Naag missile programs were scrapped) China no longer imports Russian aircraft on a wholesale basis. Any imports are limited and imports are for the sake of transfer of technology. China now has the technology to design, build and improve on current designs and move to the next generation of air crafts, missiles and other equipment.

China is developing new technologies with Pakistan which has had access and experience with American and French planes–something that the Chinese do not have. Chinese technology exports to Pakistan: JF-17 Thunder, J-10s, J-11s. This alliance has propelled the aircraft manufacturing of China to new levels and given the Pakistanis access to Chinese acumen which it did not have before. JF-17 Thunders Beyond the JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s etc

In a hedonistic orgy of insane hatred the Indian population supported eight years of Bush–just because he bombed four Muslim countries, and threatened a couple of other three of them long time Indian allies. All notion of independence and non-alignment were thrown into the Indian ocean–all under the lure of the ephemeral transfer of technology (ToT) which will never happen. No corporation in the world will give up it “Coke formula” and commit hari kari.

Bharatis had placed all their eggs in the Republican basket. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh went to the undiplomatic to announce that it would prefer it if the Republicans won the elections. This huge “foot in the mouth” started a chain reaction in the election politics of America. Hillary Clinton was a great proponent of engagement with China. However the humongous financial crisis placed increased pressure on America to reach out and listen to Beijing

The two companies are competing with Russia’s MiG-35, France’s Dassault Rafale, Sweden’s Saab JAS-39 Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon, made by a consortium of British, German, Italian and Spanish firms.

The press briefing came after a day of official meetings between Clinton and a series of senior Indian leaders including Krishna, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and ruling Congress party president Sonia Gandhi.

She did not specify the locations, but Indian press reports have suggested they would be in the states of Gujarat and Andhra Pradesh.

“I am also pleased that Prime Minister Singh told me that sites for two nuclear parks for US companies have been approved by the government.”

US officials estimate that the nuclear sites represent up to $10 billion in business for US nuclear reactor builders such as General Electric Co and Westinghouse Electric Co, a subsidiary of Japan’s Toshiba Corp. Nation

Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: Indias panicky “concern”. The Indian establishment’s answer to the threat is throwing more money at it. After recovering from the Flying Coffin fiasco, the Indian Airforce is now spending $12.5 Billion on new acquisions of planes which will be obsolete when they land in New Delhi. Trail of tears and failure: Indian missiles. For the first time, the Indian Air force has had to make some difficult decisions–in Missile technology and aircraft production. Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets? unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in IAF’s force levels, the nation will, for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan”. The declining Indo-Russian relationship. Delhi scrambles for new arms sources but they come with strings. The previous IAF chief, Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi warned the UPA government. Russia elides India in Flanker Su-30 development

For years, Beijing has turned to Russian technology for innovation, but now it is close to being able to contribute equally to a partnership with Moscow. Its J-11B, an “indigenous” version of Russia’s Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker, has been fitted with local radar, engines and air-to-air missiles, including the PL-12 radar-guided missile, which uses some Russian content but has better kinematic performance than Russia’s R-77. Other programs, such as the F-12, digital radio frequency memory (DRFM), directed-energy systems (e.g., high-power microwave, radio frequency and lasers), and modernized battlefield doctrine, are also under development, possibly in preparation to mount offensive economic and military operations against Taiwan while holding U.S. forces at bay.

David A. Fulghum is the senior military editor at AVIATION WEEK with expertise in operations, science, radar and intelligence. A veteran airman and award-winning writer, Fulghum is the first journalist to have flown 15 models of USAF aircraft. He has been cited for awards 12 times by the Aviation Writers Association and Royal Aeronautical Society. He has also held editorial posts at U.S. News & World Report and Time Life Books. Fulghum is the co-author of three books on the Vietnam War and can be reached at davef@aviationweek.com.

Bharat chose the wrong and inferior (also ran) superpower to align itself with for the first 50 years. After the destruction of the USSR, she curled up and was in shock for a decade. It then began to open up the society and the economy. Meager success went to tis head, and it really began thinking of itself equivalent to American and Russia and China. Its actions were not commensurate with its Lilliputian stature in world affairs.

India has a few blind spots. It does not know about the blind spots. There is no one to show her the blind spots. India, a youthful country overrun by youngsters eking out a subsistence living in the mirage of Bollywood is unable to look at itself with any semblance of realism. A star struck destitute and impecunious populace is proud of evanescent and unattainable trophies, venerating educational institutions it can only brag about (never get admitted to), Billionaires it can worship on statistic charts and luxuries that it can dream about.

Inebriated by blindness towards a the goal of superpower status this populace is unable to see the deep cavities within its boundaries. Young xenophobic India votes for those that are hegemonic and autochthonous. Its leadership impervious of the needs of the penurious is focused on expansionism and destabilizing its neighbors. It behaves like crack-addicts overwhelmed by blind hatred for Buddhists (the real ones who are not Hindu), Dalits, Christians and Muslims–this leadership doesn’t have a clue of what the white world thinks of Indians– unavoidable supplicators at best and disposable computer coolies at worst!

All cannot be measured in concrete and steel. Even in that Bharat lags behind every other country in the world. The land of the Ganges has lost its moral compass and ethical turpitude. Let us borrow a page from the archives of history and what was written in “The Republic” a long time ago. Reading the excerpt may help us differentiate the reality of what is Bharat today and what the ideal should be.

The poor of India, the Dalits, the scheduled classes, the Christians, the Naxalites and the Muslims left behind the onward march towards…march towards what? No one know. Ask the irredentist Akhand Bhartis who hated the vivisection of Mother India. Wars with all her neighbors. All this for the reabsorption of all states surrounding it into a huge monolith which may have existed for 80 years under the reign of Ashoka. Many question whether the mythical king ever existed. Ashoka’s kingdom is the Nirvana of India. Few Indians know that Ashoka is as fugacious as his mythical kingdom. Did Ashoka exist? Did Pandit Radhakantta create him for James Princep in 1837. Ashoka’s name first appeared in British journals when the White man was writing “Indian history” (James Princep was the first to coin the term “Ashoka). But don’t tell the pundits (the real ones, not the talking heads on Fox and CNN)–thier entire life depends on churning out the youth who believe in Akhand Bharat. A brianwashed nation unable to comprehend simple facts like–if one cannot control the current states, how can it control hundreds of millions that are forced into “India”–especially if the million are belligerent and don’t want to be part of the mess called “India”. However these are details that are not mentioned in a nation that resembles Weimar Germany–fed on a steady dose of hatred, xenophobia and hostility towards real and perceived enemies.
 
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Strategic partnership means a two way street. However many times it is a one way street.
The strange thing about the Indo-US “strategic partnership” is that it is like the Strategic Partnership of the East India Company and the 570 states of South Asia. There was the strategic partnership to take over of Bengal. There was the strategic partnership to import useless textiles from Manchester and the strategic partnership to destroy Muslim production in Bengal. There was the Doctrine of Lapse strategic partnership. There was the strategic partnership for the monopoly of poppy/heroin production. Then there was the strategic partnership to export heroin to China forcing them to buy opium in the First Opium War and then the 2nd Opium war. Then there was the strategic partnership t build railways–with one caveat–they would always run from the port to the gold mine, the salt mine or the poppy warehouses. Then of course there was the strategic partnership to take over Delhi.

What a pity! Unfortunately we didn’t have Mr. Moin Ansari’s ancestors to guide us at that time lol! If only any of his ancestors had the foresight to write an intellectually stimulating article such as this at that time, we might have been spared of 200 yrs of British rule!

Bharat in its mad rush for prestige and power is buying arms it can ill afford, and purchase goods that it cannot pay for. Hillary Clinton of course will take the money and laugh all the way to the bank.

Yeah right of course, we can not pay for the money that Hillary Clinton will take to her bank! Makes a lot of sense indeed!

A country where 75% of the population susbsists on less than $2 per day is spending $40 Billion on rustable iron and steel. A few decades ago, Bharat did the same–it went out and bought hundreds of Mig 21s. The Flying Coffins either crashed, or were eventually trashed.

Yeah right! Crashed and trashed after they gave us an additional neighbor in the east!

Now, Delhi is on another buying spree projecting a drunken sailor who doesn’t know what to do when he lands on shore, so he spends all his money on shiny things. The trinkets don’t mean anything.

The shiny trinkets mean enough to Mr. Moin Ansari who has dedicated a good part of his time and efforts to come up with a master piece of his life! At least these shiny trinkets are proving to be good stimulants for many mentally challenged people in our neighborhood!

Sorry didn’t bother to read any further as I am sure the rest of the article will be as intellectually stimulating as its initial parts.
 
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The government is seeing it as a diplomatic victory over the US as Washington has made an exception for India. In a departure from End User Monitoring agreements with other countries, America has agreed to India's terms.

What this means is that the US has agreed not to have a unilateral right to inspect India's military bases or the military equipment it sells to India.

The inspection of the military equipment sold by the US to India will be done at a place and time of India's choice and with mutual consultation.

This pact which is yet to be signed between the two countries will be binding for all future US military
sales to India. And importantly, America can't have a rethink. So, no future US law can undo this pact with India.

So why is the US making an exception? Well, because India plans to spend 40 billion dollars on buying weapons and other defence equipment over the next 3 years. And the US is eyeing at least a quarter of that.

WHAT US HOPES TO SELL TO INDIA

* 126 fighter jets: $10 billion
* Attack helicopters: $2 billion
* Electronic equipment: $1 billion

India's defence outlay is clearly far too big for the US to let an intrusive clause come in the way of a lucrative relationship.

Defence pact: India prevails over US
 
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Strategic Partnership for Hillary means taking $40 billion of Bharati money
Posted on July 21, 2009 by Moin Ansari
Strategic partnership means a two way street. However many times it is a one way street.


Bharat in its mad rush for prestige and power is buying arms it can ill afford, and purchase goods that it cannot pay for. Hillary Clinton of course will take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. A country where 75% of the population susbsists on less than $2 per day is spending $40 Billion on rustable iron and steel. A few decades ago, Bharat did the same–it went out and bought hundreds of Mig 21s. The Flying Coffins either crashed, or were eventually trashed.

Now, Delhi is on another buying spree projecting a drunken sailor who doesn’t know what to do when he lands on shore, so he spends all his money on shiny things. The trinkets don’t mean anything.

After reading this ranting by Mr. Ansari :blah: one very famous punchline from a very popular TV ad from few years ago comes to my mind. The whole rating :hitwall:can be summed up in that one punchline:

Neighbhors envy.. Owners Pride:victory:

Are the grapes too sour for you Mr. Ansari??:yahoo:
 
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Strategic Partnership for Hillary means taking $40 billion of Bharati money
Posted on July 21, 2009 by Moin Ansari
Strategic partnership means a two way street. However many times it is a one way street.

The strange thing about the Indo-US “strategic partnership” is that it is like the Strategic Partnership of the East India Company and the 570 states of South Asia. There was the strategic partnership to take over of Bengal. There was the strategic partnership to import useless textiles from Manchester and the strategic partnership to destroy Muslim production in Bengal. There was the Doctrine of Lapse strategic partnership. There was the strategic partnership for the monopoly of poppy/heroin production. Then there was the strategic partnership to export heroin to China forcing them to buy opium in the First Opium War and then the 2nd Opium war. Then there was the strategic partnership t build railways–with one caveat–they would always run from the port to the gold mine, the salt mine or the poppy warehouses. Then of course there was the strategic partnership to take over Delhi.

Bharat in its mad rush for prestige and power is buying arms it can ill afford, and purchase goods that it cannot pay for. Hillary Clinton of course will take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. A country where 75% of the population susbsists on less than $2 per day is spending $40 Billion on rustable iron and steel. A few decades ago, Bharat did the same–it went out and bought hundreds of Mig 21s. The Flying Coffins either crashed, or were eventually trashed.

Now, Delhi is on another buying spree projecting a drunken sailor who doesn’t know what to do when he lands on shore, so he spends all his money on shiny things. The trinkets don’t mean anything.

Buying all this equipment can mean only one thing. Bharat cannot produce it. China achieves techonological independence in arms production. Bharat is thus the only nation that cannot produce planes worth anything. Its Tejas is still being designed after 20 years of development, its Arjun tank is useless and its missiles program has been scrapped (Trishul, Agni, and Nag etc)

NEW DELHI (AFP/Reuters) – India and the United States agreed Monday a defence deal expected to boost US arms sales here, as New Delhi also approved sites for two US nuclear reactors, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said.

At a joint press conference with Foreign Minister SM Krishna, Clinton said the two sides had agreed on “end-use monitoring” arrangement that would provide safeguards for the sale of sophisticated US weaponry to India.

The agreement “will pave the way for greater defence cooperation” Clinton said, while Krishna said it would help the “procurement of US defence technology to India.”

The two agreements gave Clinton tangible accomplishments from a trip designed to deepen ties and demonstrate US President Barack Obama’s commitment to India’s emergence as a player on the global stage.

“We have agreed on the end-use monitoring arrangement which would refer to Indian procurement of US defence technology and equipment,” India’s External Affairs Minister, SM Krishna, told the news conference.

Known as an “end-use monitoring” agreement and required by US law for such weapons sales, the pact would let Washington check that India was using any arms for the purposes intended and was preventing the technology from leaking to others.

A US official said the arrangement was for a provision to be written into future defence contracts, guaranteeing sensitive equipment will be used for its intended purpose and not transferred to a third party.

India is expected to spend more than $30 billion over the next five years on upgrading its largely Soviet-made arsenal, roughly a third of which will be a contract to buy 126 multi-role fighters.

That could prove a boon to US companies like Lockheed Martin Corp and Boeing Co. Nation

Many in the West have now belatedly realised that China has crossed the threshold on Military Technology Independence and is no longer dependant on Russia for it defense needs. China’s phenomenal growth in the economic and manufacturing sector have allowed it to experiment and produce aircraft and missiles without Russian help. Unlike India which has yet to produce its own aircraft (LCA is still being designed after a decade of wasted effort) or missiles (Indian missle failures. Scrap the program? Agni, Trishul, Naag missile programs were scrapped) China no longer imports Russian aircraft on a wholesale basis. Any imports are limited and imports are for the sake of transfer of technology. China now has the technology to design, build and improve on current designs and move to the next generation of air crafts, missiles and other equipment.

China is developing new technologies with Pakistan which has had access and experience with American and French planes–something that the Chinese do not have. Chinese technology exports to Pakistan: JF-17 Thunder, J-10s, J-11s. This alliance has propelled the aircraft manufacturing of China to new levels and given the Pakistanis access to Chinese acumen which it did not have before. JF-17 Thunders Beyond the JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s etc

In a hedonistic orgy of insane hatred the Indian population supported eight years of Bush–just because he bombed four Muslim countries, and threatened a couple of other three of them long time Indian allies. All notion of independence and non-alignment were thrown into the Indian ocean–all under the lure of the ephemeral transfer of technology (ToT) which will never happen. No corporation in the world will give up it “Coke formula” and commit hari kari.

Bharatis had placed all their eggs in the Republican basket. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh went to the undiplomatic to announce that it would prefer it if the Republicans won the elections. This huge “foot in the mouth” started a chain reaction in the election politics of America. Hillary Clinton was a great proponent of engagement with China. However the humongous financial crisis placed increased pressure on America to reach out and listen to Beijing

The two companies are competing with Russia’s MiG-35, France’s Dassault Rafale, Sweden’s Saab JAS-39 Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon, made by a consortium of British, German, Italian and Spanish firms.

The press briefing came after a day of official meetings between Clinton and a series of senior Indian leaders including Krishna, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and ruling Congress party president Sonia Gandhi.

She did not specify the locations, but Indian press reports have suggested they would be in the states of Gujarat and Andhra Pradesh.

“I am also pleased that Prime Minister Singh told me that sites for two nuclear parks for US companies have been approved by the government.”

US officials estimate that the nuclear sites represent up to $10 billion in business for US nuclear reactor builders such as General Electric Co and Westinghouse Electric Co, a subsidiary of Japan’s Toshiba Corp. Nation

Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: Indias panicky “concern”. The Indian establishment’s answer to the threat is throwing more money at it. After recovering from the Flying Coffin fiasco, the Indian Airforce is now spending $12.5 Billion on new acquisions of planes which will be obsolete when they land in New Delhi. Trail of tears and failure: Indian missiles. For the first time, the Indian Air force has had to make some difficult decisions–in Missile technology and aircraft production. Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets? unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in IAF’s force levels, the nation will, for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan”. The declining Indo-Russian relationship. Delhi scrambles for new arms sources but they come with strings. The previous IAF chief, Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi warned the UPA government. Russia elides India in Flanker Su-30 development

For years, Beijing has turned to Russian technology for innovation, but now it is close to being able to contribute equally to a partnership with Moscow. Its J-11B, an “indigenous” version of Russia’s Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker, has been fitted with local radar, engines and air-to-air missiles, including the PL-12 radar-guided missile, which uses some Russian content but has better kinematic performance than Russia’s R-77. Other programs, such as the F-12, digital radio frequency memory (DRFM), directed-energy systems (e.g., high-power microwave, radio frequency and lasers), and modernized battlefield doctrine, are also under development, possibly in preparation to mount offensive economic and military operations against Taiwan while holding U.S. forces at bay.

David A. Fulghum is the senior military editor at AVIATION WEEK with expertise in operations, science, radar and intelligence. A veteran airman and award-winning writer, Fulghum is the first journalist to have flown 15 models of USAF aircraft. He has been cited for awards 12 times by the Aviation Writers Association and Royal Aeronautical Society. He has also held editorial posts at U.S. News & World Report and Time Life Books. Fulghum is the co-author of three books on the Vietnam War and can be reached at davef@aviationweek.com.

Bharat chose the wrong and inferior (also ran) superpower to align itself with for the first 50 years. After the destruction of the USSR, she curled up and was in shock for a decade. It then began to open up the society and the economy. Meager success went to tis head, and it really began thinking of itself equivalent to American and Russia and China. Its actions were not commensurate with its Lilliputian stature in world affairs.

India has a few blind spots. It does not know about the blind spots. There is no one to show her the blind spots. India, a youthful country overrun by youngsters eking out a subsistence living in the mirage of Bollywood is unable to look at itself with any semblance of realism. A star struck destitute and impecunious populace is proud of evanescent and unattainable trophies, venerating educational institutions it can only brag about (never get admitted to), Billionaires it can worship on statistic charts and luxuries that it can dream about.

Inebriated by blindness towards a the goal of superpower status this populace is unable to see the deep cavities within its boundaries. Young xenophobic India votes for those that are hegemonic and autochthonous. Its leadership impervious of the needs of the penurious is focused on expansionism and destabilizing its neighbors. It behaves like crack-addicts overwhelmed by blind hatred for Buddhists (the real ones who are not Hindu), Dalits, Christians and Muslims–this leadership doesn’t have a clue of what the white world thinks of Indians– unavoidable supplicators at best and disposable computer coolies at worst!

All cannot be measured in concrete and steel. Even in that Bharat lags behind every other country in the world. The land of the Ganges has lost its moral compass and ethical turpitude. Let us borrow a page from the archives of history and what was written in “The Republic” a long time ago. Reading the excerpt may help us differentiate the reality of what is Bharat today and what the ideal should be.

The poor of India, the Dalits, the scheduled classes, the Christians, the Naxalites and the Muslims left behind the onward march towards…march towards what? No one know. Ask the irredentist Akhand Bhartis who hated the vivisection of Mother India. Wars with all her neighbors. All this for the reabsorption of all states surrounding it into a huge monolith which may have existed for 80 years under the reign of Ashoka. Many question whether the mythical king ever existed. Ashoka’s kingdom is the Nirvana of India. Few Indians know that Ashoka is as fugacious as his mythical kingdom. Did Ashoka exist? Did Pandit Radhakantta create him for James Princep in 1837. Ashoka’s name first appeared in British journals when the White man was writing “Indian history” (James Princep was the first to coin the term “Ashoka). But don’t tell the pundits (the real ones, not the talking heads on Fox and CNN)–thier entire life depends on churning out the youth who believe in Akhand Bharat. A brianwashed nation unable to comprehend simple facts like–if one cannot control the current states, how can it control hundreds of millions that are forced into “India”–especially if the million are belligerent and don’t want to be part of the mess called “India”. However these are details that are not mentioned in a nation that resembles Weimar Germany–fed on a steady dose of hatred, xenophobia and hostility towards real and perceived enemies.

Well its India's money..... India's sovereignty....Its all about India .....why on earth is this Moron wasting his time discussing and writing something that does not effect any Indian.....the very India he is bothered about....
 
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The india USA relationship politically by Clintons Bush and soon Mannmmohan to Washinton is a long term USA to get india into a USA INDIA JAPAN nexus to encircle CHINA.

The USA needs India to be Economically powerful with big GDP & Forex and a powerful hitech military

American investment into India will ensure a India with a mluti trillion $$$ gdp then india will spend some of their $$ on USA hardware.

WIN WIN for USA

For india they can ditch their SOVIET era MIG21/27/29 for shinny new F18SH with their AESA.. radars and hi tech JAMMERS etc.

So win win for IAF too
Sure the F18 SH is a good fighter with good techs, but it don't end at 126 fighters, LCA might get the same engine, which makes another around 150 IAF fighters depending to US providing spares. Not to mention C130, C17, P8, most likely Apache and Chinook helicopters.
The helicopter and transport aircrafts would not be a major issue in war times, but nearly 300 fighters are!
We could end up not only relying on Russia, but also on US if we trust them too easy. I would feel better if we go with more European stuff, to have a better balance and more independence.
 
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Well its India's money..... India's sovereignty....Its all about India .....why on earth is this Moron wasting his time discussing and writing something that does not effect any Indian.....the very India he is bothered about....

Next time you be saying its India’s war but it won’t be.
 
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US may get to check Indian military bases




New Delhi: US inspectors would be given access to Indian military bases to inspect American military systems in service with the Indian Army, Navy and Air Force, under the text of the end-use monitoring agreement agreed upon by the two sides on Monday during US secretary of state Hillary Clinton's visit to India.

India does not have such an agreement with any other country, and many within the government and military are worried about its implications, given the geo-political unpredictability of South Asia.

The standard text of this agreement would be an appendix to all letters of agreements for future defence equipment purchases between the two countries. The agreement would also cover all military systems bought from the US in the past, such as the weapon locating radar with the army and the VVIP jets operated by the air force for the prime minister and other dignitaries.

The ministry of defence maintained a worrying silence on Tuesday, while the government evaded any direct response in Parliament over the agreement's text. However, spin doctors from within the establishment were trying to project the agreement as a huge victory for them, saying there was no direct reference to "physical onsite inspection". But military sources who have studied the American agreement, better known as Golden Sentry programme, say that "physical verification" was integral to it.

Government sources said the agreement says that the US will satisfy itself against misuse or resale of the systems with India through "joint consultation" or "joint security verification". It says that the "Government of India agrees to make available through mutual consultation to authorised US personnel" access to US equipment in Indian military service.

The public relations mechanism was interpreting it to say that the inspections would be done at a "place and time of our choosing", though these claims do not stand up to scrutiny. The Golden Sentry inspections are done by "Tigers", specialised teams of the Pentagon, at random on defence articles and services provided to foreign customers through government-to-government sales called FMS (foreign military sales). All sensitive military systems are sold by the US through FMS.

The only concession, perhaps, is that India has some say in deciding the time of the inspection, and it could also try and avoid US inspectors in the most sensitive installations. However, the question is whether it is logistically possible for India to move entire systems and aircraft to a place of its choosing.

The Golden Sentry programme is a cradle-to-grave inspection mechanism governed by the US department of defence (DOD) to monitor all military equipment sold to foreign countries. The aim of the mission, according to Pentagon, is to "minimise security risks" and to satisfy its "foreign policy objectives."

Many military sources, including senior generals and service chiefs, have in the past termed the agreement "intrusive". Strangely, the agreement also means the US inspectors have to regularly "evaluate" and "plan" India's military capabilities.

Other arms of the US government such as the state and commerce departments too have monitoring programmes, but they are mostly based on detailed documentation, and not so much onsite inspections.

According to Pentagon officials, while normally the end use monitoring agreement "presupposes a trusted partner" if the circumstances prove different they could take actions ranging from demarche to sanctions. For many in the military, the setback to India's LCA (light combat aircraft) programme and the forced cannibalisation of Sea King helicopters of navy because of sanctions after the 1998 nuclear tests are grave lessons in dealing with the US militarily.

US may get to check Indian military bases
 
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