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India urged to take up Tibet issue before UN

their is not an issue called tibet issue.
tibet, which is one of the poorest places in China ,has a per capita gdp 2500 USD in 2011,much better and richer than its south big neighbor...
tibet is the homeland of many ethnics,in which more than 90% are tibetans and 8% are Hans.if someone believe their is a tibet issue ,he should believe that 11 holding knife bibetans are under control of 1 unarmed han.
about 2.7 million tibetans live in tibet,and another 2.7 million tibetans live in sichuan ,qinghai,yunnan and other places, so if their is a tibet issue , their should be a sichuan issue,qinghai issue ,yunnan issue........
Lhasa is one of the safest cities in China.
if india and indians want to talk something about tibet ,they'd better firstly make themselves richer than tibetans, make their roads better than tibetan roads ,make their cities safer and clearer than tibetan's.
 
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Lol you indians like epic fail argument such as" if you have the ball to do this or do that "but why China need to repeat to what we have done to India? :lol: defeat India once shame on you, defeat India twice same on us :rofl: why we want to do that ?:rofl:

Lol. What a fantastic argument. you should have been around to say it to the Brits and Americans before they embarked on WW2. Hahahahahaha - a simpleton Chinese's grasp of history and warfare... Hahahahaha
 
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yindoos can comfort themselves with the thought that after the last spanking from china we haven't thrashed them again, just like they always like to gloat that no more rapists have been elected to national office after the last rapist was elected to the congress.

in yindu everything is rosy and pink - at least since last time some bad stuff happened to yindoos, hahahaha


Awwwww the country which prints one of the world's biggest mass murderers on its currency lecturing India about the quality of their elected reps....hahahahaha....all Chinese have an in-born knack to be stand-up comics.
 
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Awwwww the country which prints one of the world's biggest mass murderers on its currency lecturing India about the quality of their elected reps....hahahahaha....all Chinese have an in-born knack to be stand-up comics.

mao's enemies took a butcher knife to him and every member of his family. gandhi's masters took a whip to his fine yindoo buttocks. and you slaves presume to judge people who took real political actions?
 
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their is not an issue called tibet issue.
tibet, which is one of the poorest places in China ,has a per capita gdp 2500 USD in 2011,much better and richer than its south big neighbor...
tibet is the homeland of many ethnics,in which more than 90% are tibetans and 8% are Hans.if someone believe their is a tibet issue ,he should believe that 11 holding knife bibetans are under control of 1 unarmed han.
about 270 million tibetans live in tibet,and another 270 million tibetans live in sichuan ,qinghai,yunnan and other places, so if their is a tibet issue , their should be a sichuan issue,qinghai issue ,yunnan issue........
Lhasa is one of the safest cities in China.
if india and indians want to talk something about tibet ,they'd better firstly make themselves richer than tibetans, make their roads better than tibetan roads ,make their cities safer and clearer than tibetan's.

270 million Tibetans? On which planet? Pandora? Looks like some more rubbish drilled into the simple Chinese people by their communist masters.

If things were so rosy in Tibet, the persecuted Tibetans would not be applying for refugee status in India. If your countrymen and women have to apply for refugee status to a third world backward nation like India - we can imagine what it must be like.

mao's enemies took a butcher knife to him and every member of his family. gandhi's masters took a whip to his fine yindoo buttocks. and you slaves presume to judge people who took real political actions?

So you find Gandhi's buttocks "fine" - hmmm....looks like Tibetans are not the only repressed minority in China....hahahaha
 
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270 million Tibetans? On which planet? Pandora? Looks like some more rubbish drilled into the simple Chinese people by their communist masters.

If things were so rosy in Tibet, the persecuted Tibetans would not be applying for refugee status in India. If your countrymen and women have to apply for refugee status to a third world backward nation like India - we can imagine what it must be like.
2.7 million, a mistake for the different of English and Chinese grammar habits.

you can get the answers by yourself if you are willing to .but you won't.
those so called refugee are followers of Dalai most of whom are nobles lost power after 1950s.
if the tibet local people support them and give them the soil to survive why should they leave? if the maoiest who has a soil to survive are rebarbative in your country ,then the tibetan rebels are more rebarbative in tibet.
 
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2.7 million, a mistake for the different of English and Chinese grammar habits.

you can get the answers by yourself if you are willing to .but you won't.
those so called refugee are followers of Dalai most of whom are nobles lost power after 1950s.
if the tibet local people support them and give them the soil to survive why should they leave? if the maoiest who has a soil to survive are rebarbative in your country ,then the tibetan rebels are more rebarbative in tibet.

Really? Out of a population of 2.7 million - 150,000 odd living in India are nobility?
See this -
Tibetan Refugee Part One - YouTube


And they still keep coming in? Just how many nobles are there in Tibet?
 
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Really? Out of a population of 2.7 million - 150,000 odd living in India are nobility?
be more wise ,please.
i hope their are more intelligent indians here who can post real insights,don't waste time in quarrel.about your question,you can find your answer ,if you don't ,just because you are refuse to see that your neighbor is much better than you.


btw, i thought the indians who talks here is the 10% upper class(well educated and rich) for your Internet penetration is about 10%. but most of the time ,you makes me feel disappointed. @Jackdaws, you are less than 20 years old ,right?
 
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be more wise ,please.
i hope their are more intelligent indians here who can post real insights,don't waste time in quarrel.about your question,you can find your answer ,if you don't ,just because you are refuse to see that your neighbor is much better than you.


btw, i thought the indians who talks here is the 10% upper class(well educated and rich) for your Internet penetration is about 10%. but most of the time ,you makes me feel disappointed. @Jackdaws, you are less than 20 years old ,right?

Wrong on pretty much every count. It is a fact - perhaps not a very transparent one in China that there are 150,000 Tibetan refugees around the world and you claim that most of them are nobility. It is also a fact that more and more refugees keep pouring into India every year. If you have any facts to counter these - please put them forth - else spare me the patronizing sermon.
 
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Wrong on pretty much every count. It is a fact - perhaps not a very transparent one in China that there are 150,000 Tibetan refugees around the world and you claim that most of them are nobility. It is also a fact that more and more refugees keep pouring into India every year. If you have any facts to counter these - please put them forth - else spare me the patronizing sermon.

it is the last time i show my hope to you: be mature your thinking, please.or else tell me your age.
 
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it is the last time i show my hopeness to you: be mature your thinking, please.or else tell me your age.

So you are basically saying you don't have facts or figures. Got it, thanks.
 
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more and more refugees keep pouring into India every year. If you have any facts to counter these - please put them forth - else spare me the patronizing sermon.

There are some Dalai lama's follower crossing border to go to Tibet or Nepal for Dalai's teaching and blessings,but"more and more people refugees pouring into India???"do you have any facts and figures to back up this claim??or you just lie through your teeth?life in Tibet is much better than India at least.
 
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There are some Dalai lama's follower crossing border to go to Tibet or Nepal for Dalai's teaching and blessings,but"more and more people refugees pouring into India???"do you have any facts and figures to back up this claim??or you just lie through your teeth?life in Tibet is much better than India at least.

Did you just see the video I posted ? See from 1.51 to 2.10 - where there is the Office for New Arrivals from Tibet and the official states that they receive between 3500 to 4000 refugees every year. Do you have any facts that counter this claim or are you lying through your teeth as usual?
 
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Did you just see the video I posted ? See from 1.51 to 2.10 - where there is the Office for New Arrivals from Tibet and the official states that they receive between 3500 to 4000 refugees every year. Do you have any facts that counter this claim or are you lying through your teeth as usual?
really? are there any official figures to back up that claim and what past figures are?cause you said more and more..

NEWSWEEK
Whether they like it or not, China has been very good for Tibetans.


Feb 16, 2010 7:00 PM EST

Isaac Stone Fish
President Obama's controversial meeting with the Dalai Lama this week has already infuriated China and stirred up Tibet advocates who thought it should have come sooner. China says Tibet is part of its territory, and that the meeting represents an unwanted intrusion into its domestic affairs. But most Americans still see the Dalai Lama as the representative of a people oppressed by Chinese rule. Tibetans feel chafed by the restrictions on their political and religious freedoms; many are dissatisfied with Chinese rule, and this has led to widespread rioting over the past few years. They want self-determination; fair enough. But that seems to be the only story about Tibet that is ever told. The other story is that, for China's many blunders in mountainous region, it has erected a booming economy there. Looking at growth, standard of living, infrastructure, and GDP, one thing is clear: China has been good for Tibet.

Since 2001, Beijing has spent $45.4 billion on development in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR). (That's what the Chinese government calls Tibet, even though many Tibetans live in neighboring provinces, too). The effect: double-digit GDP growth for the past nine years. About a third of the money went to infrastructure investment, including the train connecting Beijing to Lhasa. "A clear benefit of the train was that it makes industrial goods cheaper for Tibetans, who, like everyone else in the world, like household conveniences, but normally had to pay very high prices," said Ben Hillman, a Tibet expert from the Australian National University's China Institute. The train also provides an opportunity for Tibetan goods to be sold outside of the region and for a massive increase in number of tourists, reaching more than 5.5 million in 2009—up from close to 2 million in 2005, the year before the train. The Chinese government's Tibet tourism bureau expects the numbers to keep climbing. While Tibetan independence groups like Free Tibet raise sustainability concerns about the increase in tourism, Hillman points out that "tourism is an important industry that can benefit local Tibetans."

Infrastructure improvements have not only helped grow the economy but also have aided in modernizing remote parts of the Tibetan plateau, an area with 3 million people about twice the size of France. Paved roads allow herders easier access to hospitals and the capital, where they sell handicrafts. "Cellphone service in parts of western Tibet is better than in parts of New Jersey," said Gray Tuttle, an assistant professor of modern Tibetan studies at Columbia University.

Since 2006, the Chinese central government has been shifting its Tibet development strategy from funding massive infrastructure projects to programs intended to bring greater benefit to individual Tibetans. While Han migrants may compete for jobs with Tibetans in urban areas, diffusing the benefits more broadly among Chinese, the net per-capita income of rural residents was $527 in 2009, an increase of more than 13 percent from the 2008 figure and the fourth year in a row where growth exceeded 13 percent. While still low, it represents an increase in wealth creation at the lowest levels. Although Chinese statistics on Tibet, like Chinese statistics in general, are impossible to verify, it seems clear that material living standards among the 80 to 90 percent of the population living in rural Tibet are rising rapidly.

"I was amazed at the amount of money actually being spent in these villages," said Melvyn Goldstein, codirector of the Center for Research on Tibet at Case Western Reserve University. Through extensive rural fieldwork in the TAR, Goldstein found that "health-insurance plans are getting better, bank loans are now more accessible, schooling is free for primary school and middle school, and access to electricity and water is improving." At the improved schools, students learn Mandarin, which gives Tibetans access to work opportunities in government offices in Tibet and in companies throughout China.

Last month, President Hu Jintao held the Communist Party's fifth Tibet planning conference, the first since 2001, to strategize on the upcoming years. He said that Tibetan rural income will likely match China's average by 2020. And he stressed the need for Tibet, beset by the "special contradiction" of the Dalai Lama, to develop using the "combination of economic growth, well-off life, a healthy eco-environment, and social stability and progress."

It's true that, so far, all the money has failed to buy Tibetan loyalty. Beijing won't deal with the Dalai Lama, even though Tibetans revere him, nor will it let his monastic followers build any power or voice any nationalist sympathy. Instead, the government is offering Tibetans the same bargain it has offered the rest of the country: in exchange for an astronomical rise in living standards, the government requires citizens to relinquish the right to free worship and free speech. The Chinese government has kept its end of the deal. Even if Tibetan residents never signed the contract, they have benefited from its enforcement—a fact Obama might keep in mind when he meets the Dalai Lama.
 
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Tibetans live a much better life than average Indians,now their young people,like everywhere else in this world,have a choice for their own lives and pursuing their own dreams in stead of being a monk as predestined like their forefathers.they enjoy economic prosperity,Lahsa was just rated"the safest city in China",a survey that Beijing doesnt even manage to enter the top ten.

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