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India trying to occupy Bangladesh territory

You can sleep in peace cheers
The border people can't....on both sides.BSF needs to be reigned in.Killing Bangladeshis is one thing,occupying and claiming disputed territories is pure aggression.
And when we talk about India being aggressive we refer usually to the border fights apart from water withdrawal.

Repeat question:So those lands occupied by the Khasia helped by the BSF what happened to them?Did they belong to BD farmers?
 
The border people can't....on both sides.BSF needs to be reigned in.Killing Bangladeshis is one thing,occupying and claiming disputed territories is pure aggression.
And when we talk about India being aggressive we refer usually to the border fights apart from water withdrawal.

Repeat question:So those lands occupied by the Khasia helped by the BSF what happened to them?Did they belong to BD farmers?

See Sir, You cant actually put every thing upon us. Yes BSF has shot down many people near border areas, BSF had warned them not to cross over, many say they feed cattle along the line of control. But They happen to infilterate during night, There has been many incidents as Bangladeshi citizens just crossover..

But Iam sure That Indians are not going to Occupy bangladesh territory , Its not against the laws, a person crossing over LOC has to answer BSF, Otherwise They have the rights to gun down and If we had to occupy you land we could have done it during 1971 war... Or with a full fledged war, we dont use cheap tactics
 
Would you be telling that India is on a rampage to occupy bangladesh territory, No way. You can sleep in peace cheers:cheers::cheers:

Yes, you may want to know the opinion of DG of BDR about how peacefully we are sleeping.
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http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/latest_news.php?nid=18687

ENEMIES BENEFITTED FROM PILKHANA CARNAGE : BDR CHIEF

Six months into the Pilkhana massacre, the BDR chief today made a first hint at the country’s foreign enemies being benefited out of the carnage.

BDR Director General Maj Gen Md Mainul Islam, however, refrained from naming any enemy.

Addressing the first formal meeting of Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) at Darbar Hall after the bloody mutiny on February 25-26 that left 73 people including 57 army officers dead, the BDR chief said someone must have benefited from the Pilkhana massacre but BDR suffered the loss.

"Bangladesh is not enemy-free in the international arena. The country has its foes. And the enemies gained the benefit from the two-day carnage," he said while addressing the Darbar of BDR DG that began at about 10:00am at the Pilkhana headquarters.

The BDR DG said, “When Bangladesh’s people thought of independence by casting majority votes, Pakistan’s occupying army attacked us. Therefore, there are people who are still against us.”

He said all the forces, including army and police, are smoothly discharging their duties but BDR is not being able to do so.

Moreover, thousands of firearms of the border security guards are being rusted due to lack of maintenance, he added.

The director general urged the soldiers for giving information about the mutiny for the sake of fair trial of the mutineers.

The Daily Star - Details News
 
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Come on whats this topic all about, India is trying to cover the India bangladesh borders with fence and why the hell Would you be telling that India is on a rampage to occupy bangladesh territory, No way. You can sleep in peace cheers:cheers::cheers:

That's what india does occupy neighbors territory. India did the same thing occupied Nepal territory, raped and displaced thousands Nepalis. But indians will never stop their pathological lie.

 
Why not bring,america,brita,thailand,bermuda and other bla bla bla in this thread now???
 
Why not bring,america,brita,thailand,bermuda and other bla bla bla in this thread now???
Those other countries cannot be discussed because those countries do not have a history of tilting other countries' farmland. Those countries are not so poor like India that they will have to steal lands from others.
 
Those other countries cannot be discussed because those countries do not have a history of tilting other countries' farmland. Those countries are not so poor like India that they will have to steal lands from others.

when u r giving out reasons plz use some reasonable assumptions...
reasons for stealing a land r never due to being a country poor !!! its most of the time the opposite... the country being stronger than opponent !!!
U know nothing abt USA.... many mexicans claim the southern part of USA to be theirs... just becoz USA is sooo strong.. u conveniently ignore it are unaware of it... even after USA independce there was a civil war to divide USA into 2 nations, though unsuccessful,so does United kingdom has versus scotland....
 
See Sir, You cant actually put every thing upon us. Yes BSF has shot down many people near border areas, BSF had warned them not to cross over, many say they feed cattle along the line of control. But They happen to infilterate during night, There has been many incidents as Bangladeshi citizens just crossover..

But Iam sure That Indians are not going to Occupy bangladesh territory , Its not against the laws, a person crossing over LOC has to answer BSF, Otherwise They have the rights to gun down and If we had to occupy you land we could have done it during 1971 war... Or with a full fledged war, we dont use cheap tactics
you are saying the same thing...again.The topic here is about territory not body count and not about what could have had happened in '71 but what is happening after that.
The BSF obviously doesn't think like you or you are tad ignorant about what goes on.Apart from disputed territories and adversely possessed lands(that includes small pieces breaking off) like the previous posts show BSF has been encroaching on BD territory and they are usually repelled.
Off topic:as for cheap tactics find out what led to the Indo-China war.

questions:any news from the Home ministry about this?No?well I am not surprised ,we got a museum relic for a HM.
 
you are saying the same thing...again.The topic here is about territory not body count and not about what could have had happened in '71 but what is happening after that.
The BSF obviously doesn't think like you or you are tad ignorant about what goes on.Apart from disputed territories and adversely possessed lands(that includes small pieces breaking off) like the previous posts show BSF has been encroaching on BD territory and they are usually repelled.
Off topic:as for cheap tactics find out what led to the Indo-China war.

questions:any news from the Home ministry about this?No?well I am not surprised ,we got a museum relic for a HM.

Don't need to worry abt encroachment by BSF. Its very smaller issue than encroachment by Global Warning..
 
well it's a pretty big issue as the lands(encroached and disputed both) are farmlands.
and care to clarify this:
Its very smaller issue than encroachment by Global Warning..
or did you mean Warming?
 
well it's a pretty big issue as the lands(encroached and disputed both) are farmlands.
and care to clarify this:

or did you mean Warming?

Srry typo-mistake. I don't think there is any border dispute b/w India and Bangladesh only concern for BSF is to stop illegal activities...
For my Global Warming issue its really big problem for both India and Bangaldesh. Bangladesh will suffer physically while Indian economy will suffer due to illegal migration caused by this...
 
yeah well I get it now.

I don't think there is any border dispute b/w India and Bangladesh only concern for BSF is to stop illegal activities...
there are.Minor sections of land and pieces of land breaking off from both the sides.Given the population density of both the countries and the fact these are fertile lands they are important.I don't undestand why there weren't any ministry level talks about these between the two nations.

Friday, August 14, 2009
Tense Sylhet border
A.B.M.S Zahur

IT has been reported in some dailies (August 8) that Indian BSF illegally intruded into Bangladesh territory at 3 points in Jaintapur and Goainghat upazilla of Sylhet district. In Tamabil area about 150 members of BSF in full battle readiness entered nearly 400 meters inside Bangladesh territory and encircled a local BDR camp. The BSF members left the place after about 30 minutes when the local people came forward to rescue the encircled BDR members. The local people praised the patience of BDR personnel in not allowing the situation to deteriorate.

As per BDR statement, some BSF personnel along with some Khashia entered into Sreepur Minatila of Sreepur upazila and the Khashia started cultivating paddy in Bangladeshi-owned land. In Tamabil border area, around 150 BSF illegally entered and assisted the Khashias to cultivate land. Similarly, in Pratappur area, 20/25 BSF personnel entered illegally. Though BDR tried to arrange a flag meeting immediately no satisfactory response was received from its counterpart. Instead, BSF is reportedly increasing its strength along the borders.

Illegal entries and provocative activities by BSF on the Bangladesh-India border are nothing new. Despite high-level conferences at experts and political levels we have not been able to obtain any satisfactory solution so far. These meetings always ended with some hope, and the expectation of the common people that with improvement of India-Bangladesh relation such incidents may decrease. Regrettably, such days have not come as yet.

There is no scope for developing good neighbourly relation through one-sided effort. Bangladesh alone can never establish good understanding with India, which is reported to have become more aggressive with its small neighbours due to change in "geo-political balance" through entry of India and EU into Afghanistan, which US considers part of South Asia.

The incidents in Sylhet appear to be specially significant in view of the Tipaimukh dam issue. BSF is increasing its strength at Sylhet borders. At present, BDR is not fully reorganised. Nor has it regained its past glory and strength. Despite Indian assurance it is not difficult to understand that as long as we are not able to strengthen and modernise BDR BSF will increasingly become audacious and aggressive, resulting in loss of human lives and property and loss of morale of our people at the borders.

Needless to say, the common people of Bangladesh are uncertain about the impact of Tipaimukh dam. Incidents such as BSF's illegal intrusion into Bangladesh will certainly affect India-Bangladesh relation. Mere assurances from India cannot satisfy our people.

Unless India engages itself peacefully with all nations, honouring the sovereignty of these nations and building a paradigm of peaceful existence, no real improvement of our relationship appears to be possible.

The immediate need for Bangladesh is to reorganise BDR, modernising it with arms and equipments to match its Indian counterpart. If necessary, all the young people along the India-Bangladesh borders may be trained to support our border forces. Road networks at the borders should be improved to increase the mobility of the border forces.

The incidents near the Sylhet border indicate that there has not been any improvement of India-Bangladesh relation despite recent discussions at high level. To develop really good relations we need to appreciate each other's problems. We may have divergent views, but we also share similar attitudes. Our mutual respect must increase if we want a better future for our people.

A.B.M.S. Zahur is a former Joint Secretary.

It's a mix of issues,the border being the prominent one.Can somebody clarify the highlighted sections of the article?so is that what happened?they were surrounded?
BTW,BDR troops along the borders don't have arms after the mutiny?I am referring to some previous posts.
 
Dhaka is yet to remark on Indian submission

Bangladesh has disputed the Myanmar's submission claiming its continental shelf in the Bay of Bengal (maritime boundary) to the United Nations Commission on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) in a careless manner through a three-page "note verbale" which was submitted on July 23, 2009.
Even after Myanmar submitted the claim on December 16, 2008 Bangladesh disputed the claim just about two weeks before the 24th session of the UNCLOS which began on August 10, in New York. The UNCLOS will consider among other things the submission by Myanmar. Bangladesh is yet to dispute India's partial submission on maritime boundary of the Bay of Bengal.
While Myanmar stated that that the maritime boundary delimitation with Bangladesh is an ongoing process consistent with Article 76 of the UNCLOS, Bangladesh mentioned that the maritime boundary as claimed by Myanmar is considered to be a "disputed" one.
Myanmar's submission, as the note verbale of Bangladesh stated, incorrectly claimed that "the subject of this submission is not subject to any dispute between Myanmar and other states..." In fact the areas claimed by Myanmar in its submission to the Commission as part of its putative continental shelf are the natural prolongation of Bangladesh and hence Myanmar's claim is disputed by Bangladesh, it added.
Protest
The note verbale submitted to the United Nations also mentioned that Bangladesh in a separate note verbale sent to Myanmar government on June 30, 2009 had protested to the straight baselines claimed by Myanmar for the Prepares and Co Co islands and along the coast of Myanmar up to Oyster Island. They are accordingly disputed; the note verbale said and added that the Myanmar submission was not consistent with UNCLOS or international law.
The note verbale further stated that Bangladesh believes that Myanmar's claim of natural prolongation of its landmass through to the outer edge of the Rakhine Continental Margin on the basis of morphology, geology and tectonics, is not supported by persuasive morphological, geological or tectonic evidence. Scientific research and analysis have established that the morphology of the seabed in the Bay of Bengal is marked by a regional slope where water depth gradually increases from north to south, the note verbale mentioned and added that "this characteristic contradicts the notion of a westward prolongation of Myanmar's landmass, which would imply a regional slope at a right angle i.e. from east to west."
It further stated that the characteristic also underscores the reality that the seabed in the northern Bay of Bengal owes much of its shape and composition to the high volumes of sediment that have emerged mostly from or across the landmass of Bangladesh over geological time.
The note verbale made it clear that Bangladesh will make every effort to reach a practical arrangement with Myanmar that will allow the commission to consider both the submission of Myanmar and the submission that Bangladesh will make by July 2011.

Poorly drafted note verbale
Bangladesh's verbal note was not well-prepared; rather she initially stepped to raise the issue bilaterally when it sent the note directly to Myanmar in last June. It is not understood why it took to song to dispute the issue through a note on July 23, 2009.
Bangladesh's confused attitude was also reflected when Bangladesh representative made a remark on June 25 meeting of the commission, when it was discussing about budgetary measures and appointment of judges of the commission. At that time it was said that "Bangladesh would hand in its submission in July 2011, but it did not know when the commission would consider it. Appropriate steps should be taken to ease the commission's workload promptly. At that time the Bangladesh's statement was made in line with India's statement.
Indian representative stated that mechanism should be explored to ensure the timely processing of submissions presented to the commission. They should not have to wait 20 years for their submissions to be considered and new ways must be explored to address the backlog. The diplomatic circle thinks that though the note verbale against the Myanmar submission seems to be a departure from the original stand of Bangladesh to deal with the issue bilaterally, Bangladesh's stand in this regard is not clear. It is not clear what kind of stand it would make regarding India's submission.

HOLIDAY > FRONT PAGE
 
"Friday, August 14, 2009
Tense Sylhet border
A.B.M.S Zahur

IT has been reported in some dailies (August 8) that Indian BSF illegally intruded into Bangladesh territory at 3 points in Jaintapur and Goainghat upazilla of Sylhet district. In Tamabil area about 150 members of BSF in full battle readiness entered nearly 400 meters inside Bangladesh territory and encircled a local BDR camp. The BSF members left the place after about 30 minutes when the local people came forward to rescue the encircled BDR members. The local people praised the patience of BDR personnel in not allowing the situation to deteriorate."


Ref post # 312. The thread is too long ( and mundane) to attempt to read.

However, I found the portion reproduced to be interesting.

The locals come to "rescue" the BDR while it should be the other way round !
 
"Friday, August 14, 2009
Tense Sylhet border
A.B.M.S Zahur

IT has been reported in some dailies (August 8) that Indian BSF illegally intruded into Bangladesh territory at 3 points in Jaintapur and Goainghat upazilla of Sylhet district. In Tamabil area about 150 members of BSF in full battle readiness entered nearly 400 meters inside Bangladesh territory and encircled a local BDR camp. The BSF members left the place after about 30 minutes when the local people came forward to rescue the encircled BDR members. The local people praised the patience of BDR personnel in not allowing the situation to deteriorate."


Ref post # 312. The thread is too long ( and mundane) to attempt to read.

However, I found the portion reproduced to be interesting.

The locals come to "rescue" the BDR while it should be the other way round !

During 2001 conflict,BDR camp of only 16 Jawans were surrounded by hundreds of BSF men.Although Indian newspapers reported otherwise.

Now after BDR mutiny,BDR is further weakened.So its not surprising the locals went there for rescue.
We should start training these locals to work as emergency back up.Seriously..I am not joking.
 
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