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India to halt Iran oil imports over insurance - MRPL

If it is not Israel, its proxy (USA) it would be!

So on this issue, Iran is between a solid rock and a hard place. Any which way its coming, if it has to!

By not stopping UE against all these gargantuan odds, which has crippled Iranian nation and its economy (currency) - it is not prudent by the west to accept that Iran is doing this merely for its medical Isotope research..

As for energy, Iran has no need of it, owing to largest reserves of crude oil.
Hence Iran is not able to convince the world power of its intent, which is obvious, if rationally analysed, that Iran wants a Shia Bomb.

Then why the 'west' are planning to build numerous nuclear power plants for UAE,Saudi Arabia and some other oil rich countries?

Why U.S was developing nuclear facilities for Iran before revolution?
What a lame excuse.Only because we have oil, then we can't have nuclear program?Then why Russia has a nuclear program? I don't even know how these excuses crosses your minds.

It seems Iran's nuclear program is killing some people,more than governments.
 
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If it is not Israel, its proxy (USA) it would be!

So on this issue, Iran is between a solid rock and a hard place. Any which way its coming, if it has to!

By not stopping UE against all these gargantuan odds, which has crippled Iranian nation and its economy (currency) - it is not prudent by the west to accept that Iran is doing this merely for its medical Isotope research..

As for energy, Iran has no need of it, owing to largest reserves of crude oil.
Hence Iran is not able to convince the world power of its intent, which is obvious, if rationally analysed, that Iran wants a Shia Bomb.

Iran has no obligations to prove anything to usa or europe and those claims about iran have alot of oil is baseless as usa and Europe have far more oil than us and more importantly by this domestic increase in oil consumption in twenty year we must import oil .

And your rationsl analyze suspiciously smell of sectarian minds . What's the meaning of shia bombs
 
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Iran has no obligations to prove anything to usa or europe and those claims about iran have alot of oil is baseless as usa and Europe have far more oil than us and more importantly by this domestic increase in oil consumption in twenty year we must import oil .

And your rationsl analyze suspiciously smell of sectarian minds . What's the meaning of shia bombs

Here is Wikipedia:

At 2006 rates of production, Iran's oil reserves would last 98 years if no new oil was found.
 
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Here is Wikipedia:
now add 10% increase in domestic consumption and you get why we can export oil for just 20-30 year
and more importantly it really have nothing to do with is it legal and beneficial to pursue nuclear energy
 
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(Reuters) - India is set to halt all crude imports from Iran because insurance companies in the country have said refineries processing the oil will no longer be covered due to Western sanctions, the head of refiner MRPL said on Friday.

India is Iran's second-largest buyer, taking around a quarter of its oil exports worth around $1 billion a month.


"If cover is not available then all Indian refiners will have to halt imports from Iran or else they will have to take a huge risk," P.P. Upadhya, managing director of Mangalore Refinery and Petrochemicals Ltd (MRPL.NS), told Reuters in a telephone interview.

MRPL is India's biggest buyer of Iran crude. "Insurance companies said if I buy Iranian crude my refinery's insurance cover will be cancelled ... If we don't get insurance for the refinery then we will stop buying Iranian crude," Upadhya said.

Europe and the United States last year introduced tough sanctions aimed at Iran's oil trade to force Tehran to the negotiating table over its nuclear program.

European industry sources say Indian insurers have been affected as reinsurers in both Europe and the U.S., who dominate the global market, are increasingly wary of the risk of falling foul of breaching sanctions.

"Insurers and reinsurers are very anxious to ensure they don't overstep the line on sanctions. These are still relatively grey areas, but fairly standard clauses have been put into contracts which say: ‘we don't have any legal obligation to pay anything that might be in breach of sanctions,'" said Clive O'Connell, London-based partner at law firm Goldberg Segalla.

"If you are an Indian insurance company and you buy reinsurance from a company that has operations in the U.S. or Europe, and that reinsurer imposes a sanctions-compliant clause on you, you're going to be very careful about the cover that you give," O'Connell, an insurance expert, told Reuters.

Oil is Iran's biggest income generator therefore a halt in sales to India would be a heavy blow for Tehran. Sanctions more than halved its crude exports in 2012.

"Sanctions apply to any Iranian aspect of crude oil and such risks are therefore unacceptable to anyone trading in dollars or subject to EU jurisdiction," said Neil Roberts, a senior executive at the Lloyd's Market Association, which represents underwriters operating in Lloyd's of London insurance market.

"The only people who might consider this (type of re-insurance) would be outside the dollar sphere and outside the EU," he said. "This is a non-starter for the London market."

In a letter in January seen by Reuters, the General Insurance Corp of India, the national reinsurer, told the General Insurance Council, an industry group, it had "dawned" on insurers that cover and losses on processing the crude would not be payable by reinsurers due to existing sanctions.

A source at another refiner that buys Iranian crude, Hindustan Petroleum Corp (HPCL) (HPCL.NS), also said imports were threatened by the insurance problems.

"Iran imports will be stopped soon," the HPCL source told Reuters. "As far as insurance is concerned, we are all sailing in the same boat."

HPCL is Iran's third-biggest Indian buyer and warned last month that insurers may withdraw cover because of sanctions.

IMPACT ON REFINERIES

MRPL's Upadhya declined to say how soon the company would have to stop Iranian imports. But MRPL has issued tenders to buy three cargoes of 650,000 barrels of crude to load in April, according to documents seen by Reuters. Two of the cargoes are high sulfur and could be used to replace Iranian oil.

"There is a problem on the insurance front for Iran oil," Upadhya said when asked about the tenders.

In January, India imported more than 286,000 barrels per day (bpd) of Iran's around 1.1 million bpd total exports.

This is the first time that insurance problems have had a direct impact on refineries processing Iranian crude.

The lack of insurance cover dates back to April 2012, Upadhya said, but was clarified by insurers only in February this year.

MRPL has written to India's federal oil ministry asking for an alternative insurance mechanism, Upadhya said.

"Refineries processing Iranian crude would be severely hit," MRPL told India's oil secretary in a letter dated February 27 and seen by Reuters. There would be no cover for claims if the plant was processing Iranian crude, MRPL said.

An Indian government source said last month that New Delhi would find a way to ensure refineries have cover but gave no details.

Insurers rely on European reinsurance markets to hedge their risk. EU sanctions have blocked European maritime reinsurers from any involvement in insuring shipments of Iranian oil.

That forced a temporary halt in mid-2012 to imports by two of Iran's other top Asian buyers, Japan and South Korea.

India's government stepped in to provide emergency insurance but it was a fraction of the $1 billion liability coverage that a supertanker would typically need and has rarely been used.

India's refiners have already slashed imports from Iran as they joined other major Asian buyers in reducing purchases to secure waivers from the sanctions.

MRPL had already expected to cut nearly 40 percent or its Iranian imports in the fiscal year ending March 31.

In the first 10 months of the current fiscal year, India reduced Iran crude imports by nearly 22 percent on the year, data from trade sources shows.

(Additional reporting by Jonathan Saul and Myles Neligan in London,; editing by Simon Webb and James Jukwey)

Exclusive: India set to halt Iran oil imports over insurance - MRPL | Reuters


MY ADDITIONS:
1. I did tell the Indian friends that India will finally halt the oil sale from Iran because of preferring the US/GCC offers.
2. Another note to Indian friends: "Probably you cant count on Chabar too much, any more."

@tyrant...i think this is unfortunate..But i would like to caution all the Indian friends from GCC nation...For us...India should not treat GCC and Iran as complimentary to each other...And with respect to Chabar port, I am not sure wheather you are happy or upset, but of course we are upset...
 
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It does not work like that, if that was the case, all Indian refineries would shut down, but that is not the lamenting case here. If that was the case the you would not hear the following:



See, they all are talking about stopping oil shipments from Iran, they are not worried about shutdown of the whole plant. It does not work like that. Mind you, world's biggest refinery is in India, leaving back the USA at number second.

@mohsen is correct...In technicalities wise...each refinery is made up of specific kind of oil...It is not possible to replace it suddenly....And apart from that i think the choice of Iran over Saudi Arabia after independence is all about who is more alligned towards intrests of India...Oil technicalities can be sorted out...And if we go by the histroy, in between Iran and SA, Alothough Iran never supported overtly in towards India, but still then Iran never neural and the perception of Iran in India is more or less modern,cultural and forward thinking Islamic state that understand and respect India and its culture....But in this regard, Saudi Arabia is always presented as a religious state and openly supported Pakistan than India in all occasaions.....

So the bottomline is that Oil diplomacy can be checkmated and that is what is happening now....Of late..Saudia Arab is somehow is showing and supporting to India's intrest....But my personal assessment is that i would like to seat in the chair with Iran and face the consequences rather that be with the rich Gulf Countries... If India need to make some good friends...then Indian diplomacy should learn how to stand up to a friend like Iran trouble times, rather using escapist execuse like we can not do anything...Standing up for friends in troubles times, creates and long term trust and good friendship

 
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Oil exports getting hard and hard everday for Iran. The USA knows very well that if she can succeed imposing the sanctions on Iran oil export, Iran will be damaged so badly. Today, Iranian economy heavily depends on oil export (Iran earns up to 80% of its foreign exchange in oil revenues). The USA every day increase her pressure on importers of Iranian oil. I am not gonna say whether this fair or not but I just want to show you some stats which indicate sanctions start biting Iran a lot.

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There is also some info regarding US sanctions and pressures on importers of Iranian oil US sanctions bite Iran | Lloyd's List Intelligence
 
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Oil exports getting hard and hard everday for Iran. The USA knows very well that if she can succeed imposing the sanctions on Iran oil export, Iran will be damaged so badly. Today, Iranian economy heavily depends on oil export (Iran earns up to 80% of its foreign exchange in oil revenues). The USA every day increase her pressure on importers of Iranian oil. I am not gonna say whether this fair or not but I just want to show you some stats which indicate sanctions start biting Iran a lot...rest of :blah:
you better reconsider your news source, here are opposite statistics published by U.S. Energy Information Administration:
Availability and Price of Non-Iranian Petroleum - Energy Information Administration
Iran's liquid fuels production averaged 3.4 million bbl/d in January and February 2013, of which 2.8 million bbl/d was crude oil. Iran's liquid fuels production increased approximately 0.1 million bbl/d compared with the previous 60-day period.
Iran has already cut of it's oil and gas export to EU countries which participated in sanctions against Iran including Spain and France.
"80% of its foreign exchange in oil revenues" what a joke. Iran has reduced it's oil dependence yearly and according to our official's statement published a few days ago, we will cut off oil dependence completely in next year budget bill.
For now you can publish as much fake statistics as you love, It wont take long for European countries begging for Iran's oil.
 
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you better reconsider your news source, here are opposite statistics published by U.S. Energy Information Administration:
Availability and Price of Non-Iranian Petroleum - Energy Information Administration
Iran has already cut of it's oil and gas export to EU countries which participated in sanctions against Iran including Spain and France.
"80% of its foreign exchange in oil revenues" what a joke. Iran has reduced it's oil dependence yearly and according to our official's statement published a few days ago, we will cut off oil dependence completely in next year budget bill.
For now you can publish as much fake statistics as you love, It wont take long for European countries begging for Iran's oil.

You had better wake up and come to the real world. Iran will cut off her oil dependence COMPLETELY in next year budget bill??? :rofl: This is the joke! How do you plan to do that while your 80% revenues come from oil? I am not making anything up regarding Iran's export diversification. This tells me what Iran's export diversification is.

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You forget something. You are not the only country who provides oil. As long as OPEC provides enough oil no one will beg you (maybe in you dream!). No country wants to jeopardize her interests and every day the USA increases her pressures on other country who import oil from Iran. That is why the USA aims at Iran`s oil export. Why would she aim at your oil export if your revenue mostly did not come from oil?
 
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You had better wake up and come to the real world. Iran will cut off her oil dependence COMPLETELY in next year budget bill??? :rofl: This is the joke! How do you plan to do that while your 80% revenues come from oil? I am not making anything up regarding Iran's export diversification. This tells me what Iran's export diversification is.

767px-Iran_Export_Treemap.jpg


You forget something. You are not the only country who provides oil. As long as OPEC provides enough oil no one will beg you (maybe in you dream!). No country wants to jeopardize her interests and every day the USA increases her pressures on other country who import oil from Iran. That is why the USA aims at Iran`s oil export. Why would she aim at your oil export if your revenue mostly did not come from oil?
right now some European countries are buying Iran's oil indirectly, why? cause they love us?
of course when your head is filled with that 80%, you wont believe anything else.
US sanctions are the reason our government is moving toward independence of oil incomes, and whether we get independence or not US will keep it's sanctions cause they want to stop us with anything possible, even if it's drug export to Iran.
 
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Then why the 'west' are planning to build numerous nuclear power plants for UAE,Saudi Arabia and some other oil rich countries?

Why U.S was developing nuclear facilities for Iran before revolution?
What a lame excuse.Only because we have oil, then we can't have nuclear weapons?Then why Russia has a nuclear program? I don't even know how these excuses crosses your minds.

It seems Iran's nuclear program is killing some people,more than governments.
I think it's is hypocritical to halt Iran's nuclear power plants.

But I think Iran isn't going about this in an optimal way. Iranian politicians had very questionable statements quite a few times in the past, and this doesn't exactly help them to establish trust. If Ahmadinejad goes on to say something like wiping Israel off the face of the earth, then you can calculate and imagine that the west will be very wary about Iran's developments in the Nuclear sector.

I think I understand why Ahmadinejad is saying what he is saying about Israel. I think it has to do with the 'end of times' prophecies. But we as Muslims are obligated to uphold peace, and work for peace. The prophecy states that it's Israel that provokes the war, but if I look at Ahmadinejad's statements, it seems that he is the one provoking conflict/tension with Israel.
 
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I think it's is hypocritical to halt Iran's nuclear power plants.

But I think Iran isn't going about this in an optimal way. Iranian politicians had very questionable statements quite a few times in the past, and this doesn't exactly help them to establish trust. If Ahmadinejad goes on to say something like wiping Israel off the face of the earth, then you can calculate and imagine that the west will be very wary about Iran's developments in the Nuclear sector.

I think I understand why Ahmadinejad is saying what he is saying about Israel. I think it has to do with the 'end of times' prophecies. But we as Muslims are obligated to uphold peace, and work for peace. The prophecy states that it's Israel that provokes the war, but if I look at Ahmadinejad's statements, it seems that he is the one provoking conflict/tension with Israel.

People go,but the country stays.

Ahmadinejad is going in 3 months,and we will get rid of his weird statements.

But even in Khatami era,former president,which was a reformist and almost did everything that west wanted regarding nuclear program, western countries didn't end their hypocrisy.Makes us wonder our nuclear program is not their major concern,that's very obvious I suppose.
 
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I think it's is hypocritical to halt Iran's nuclear power plants.

But I think Iran isn't going about this in an optimal way. Iranian politicians had very questionable statements quite a few times in the past, and this doesn't exactly help them to establish trust. If Ahmadinejad goes on to say something like wiping Israel off the face of the earth, then you can calculate and imagine that the west will be very wary about Iran's developments in the Nuclear sector.

I think I understand why Ahmadinejad is saying what he is saying about Israel. I think it has to do with the 'end of times' prophecies. But we as Muslims are obligated to uphold peace, and work for peace. The prophecy states that it's Israel that provokes the war, but if I look at Ahmadinejad's statements, it seems that he is the one provoking conflict/tension with Israel.
what about our previous president Khatami, always talked about peace and negotiation between cultures, suspended nuclear activities for 2 years, even his minister said we are friend with Israel nation (he lives in England now), and in the end what was the results? more sanctions and UN resolutions.
No man, we bypassed defensive negotiations for good.
 
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People go,but the country stays.

Ahmadinejad is going in 3 months,and we will get rid of his weird statements.

But even in Khatami era,former president,which was a reformist and almost did everything that west wanted regarding nuclear program, western countries didn't end their hypocrisy.Makes us wonder our nuclear program is not their major concern,that's very obvious I suppose.
That had more to do with Bush and not Khatami. The Iranian leader wanted to open dialogue etc. but Bush out of no where came with his axis of evil and said that Iran was part of it. I blame Bush to be honest.

I learned this from Dutch tv, from a Dutch journalist who specializes in Iranian politics. He said Khatami wanted to open dialogue, but when Bush came with that statement, the Irianian people were (rightfully so) outraged and elected the more conservative (or nationalist, not sure) Ahmadinejad.
 
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