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India to get access to almost 99% of US defence technologies, says Obama administration official

so are the Pakistani.. su 35.. excitement still running..

Not quite the full shilling ....are you.
This news was first released by the Russian defence ministry and not exactly carried out by some Pakistani tabloid.
 
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Guruji India would prefer to buy the key strategic weapons from a reliable partner who did not puts the end user restrictions on us whenever we wants to use them in case of an emergency.
Basically the US wants us to buy their weapons and use them against the country of their choise(China).
i know but is china in any way showing any sign of trying to have good relations with india and when china has made it clear that its not our friend then its foolish not to have a good terms with your enemies enemy
 
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Not quite the full shilling ....are you.
This news was first released by the Russian defence ministry and not exactly carried out by some Pakistani tabloid.


Not from Defense ministry .. an Russian news agency cited Junior FM statement.. and Russian govt portal clarified there is no such deal in consideration. although many members comes to conclusion Indian influence or lobbying are little, can't stop the su 35 deal... Coming to the thread, It was reported in Indian media then why you are jumping to conclusion Indians are getting hyper ??? If anything benefit to India .. we would feel happy ... and your problem with that???
 
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Now things should be very much clear to Indian people and GoI.. that China is NOT a friend.. and never can be.. not in another century atleast.. hindi-chini bhai bhai was all rubbish invented during congress.. the same congress who gave away UNSC and NSG to china on silver platter.
Point is.. previously china said there wont be any discuss on indias nsg proposal.. and had to fight agains alomost 45+ countries which exposed its core intention..
And my dear green friend.. i wont even talk about you.. as we all know US used you guys for their own self interest and china owns your a** for real.. so please ..
What india should do is that.. act as soft power.. send a nice warning.. and ban imports on cheap products.
 
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i know but is china in any way showing any sign of trying to have good relations with india and when china has made it clear that its not our friend then its foolish not to have a good terms with your enemies enemy
That would be a very good idea but dont you think if we are spending that much of money on such an important weapon system it would be more beneficiary to buy it from other convenient sources who does not have a say on where or on whom to use it.
That will be a good way of us short dark evil yindoo baniyas spending our bucks.
 
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That would be a very good idea but dont you think if we are spending that much of money on such an important weapon system it would be more beneficiary to buy it from other convenient sources who does not have a say on where or on whom to use it.
That will be a good way of us short dark evil yindoo baniyas spending our bucks.
tell me do we have a choise russian are always fleecing and not giving the rquired tech but even if they are its almost on par with western systems cost wise while there maintenece is a nighmare , france always quotes double the market price and sells it to us at 20%-30% more than the rates of same level US equipment

now when USA itself is giving us a waver its foolish not to grab the opportunity and make most of it by giving defence related US firms 100% FDI & MII option as no matter what no one can beat the leathelity and potency and price of US weapons

look what china is doing by giving there latest weapons tech to our arch enemy and trying to go against our every interests where it can hurt it ... in times like this trying to be a good guy is nit just foolish but suecidal
 
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So no TOT for
F-22
F-35
F-15
Growler
B-52
B-2
SSNs, SSBNs,SSGNs
CVN tech
Abrams
And the list goes on and on, surprising how much can be fit in one percent with just empty promises
 
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I think would be looking at the Anti Submarine Systems and next generation SONAR for the Indian Navy, EMAL, Help in the development in Carrier Design, Long range UAVs. For Airforce, transport plane fleet and Air Defence System, BMD tech from Israel, and for IA -- Mountain Warfare equipments and combat hellicopter gunships. Stratigically, help from NASA and various agencies for the Space capability for Survellance, SIGNIT, IMINT.
 
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So no TOT for
F-22
F-35
F-15
Growler
B-52
B-2
SSNs, SSBNs,SSGNs
CVN tech
Abrams
And the list goes on and on, surprising how much can be fit in one percent with just empty promises
why is that a surprise will you part with your most precious R&D with a potential friend without getting the required/desired rewards :azn:

but why not make most of the remaining 99% of which im sure we might have 80-90% of our own but still not as devloped and much much crude as that of latest US tech level and make it onpar with world standards
 
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And my dear green friend.. i wont even talk about you.. as we all know US used you guys for their own self interest and china owns your a** for real.. so please ..
You obviously seem to be in a conflict with yourself, for we all know how you people were willing to offer it on a platter when US was invading Afghanistan and whatever the Pak/China relation may hold, you certainly don't mind them sit on your face at will, so please leave your high Horse behind the gate.
 
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WASHINGTON: India will be the only country outside US' formal treaty allies that will gain access to almost 99 per cent of latest America's defence technologies after being recognised as a 'Major Defence Partner', a senior Obama administration official has said.

"India (now) enjoys access to (defence) technologies that is on par with our treaty allies. That is a very unique status. India is the only other country that enjoys that status outside our formal treaty allies," the official told PTI explaining what 'Major Defence Partner' status means for India.

Early this month, after a meeting between US President Barack Obama and Prime MinisterNarendra Modi at the White House, the US, in a joint statement, recognised India as a 'Major Defence Partner

"We were looking for something unique. This language you would not find in any arms transfer legislation or any of our existing policies. This is new guidance and new language that is intended to reflect the unique things that we have done with India under our defence partnership," the senior administration official said.

"This is intended to solidify the India-specific forward leaning policies for approval that the (US) President and (Defense) Secretary (Ashton) Carter...and our export control system have implemented in the last eight years," the official said.

Under this recognition India would receive license-free access to a wide range of dual-use technologies in conjunction with steps that New Delhi has committed to take to advance its export control objectives.

Acknowledging that the impression in New Delhi is that India is not getting access to the kind of technology it needs from the US, the official said it is a constant source of discussion.

"(In reality), less than one per cent of all exports (requests) are denied (to India). They are not denied because of India. They are denied because of global US licensing policies. We do not share certain technologies with anybody in the world," the official asserted.

The perception in India that the denial of such technologies is reflective of India-US relationship is far from the truth, the official said.

According to the official, India being recognised as a "major defence partner puts it on par with our treaty allies".

Inside the American bureaucratic system, such a recognition removes a number of major export control hurdles for India.

The category of 'Major Defence Partner' was created specifically for India, observed Ashley Tellis, of Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a top American think-tank.

"It was meant to recognise that although India will not be an alliance partner of the United States, the administration seeks to treat it as such for purposes of giving it access to advanced technologies of the kind that are reserved for close US allies," Tellis told PTI.

"The US expects that bilateral defence ties will only grow in the years ahead, that India and the United States will continue to work together especially regarding maritime security, that India will eventually be admitted to global nonproliferation regimes, and that it will sign the foundational agreements," he said in response to a question.

"As these developments materialise, India's access to US technology will also increase, and the "major defence partner" moniker is intended to signal to both the outside world and to the US bureaucracy that oversees licensing that India is viewed as a unique collaborator and will be treated as such where access to advanced technologies are concerned," Tellis said.

Calling India a "Major Defence Partner" is "more a term of art than a technical designation", noted Richard M Rossow, Wadhwani Chair in US India Policy Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, another top American think-tank.

"It certainly captures what is emerging as a unique relationship, exhibited by programs such as the Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI) and the establishment of a dedicated 'India Rapid Reaction Cell' inside the Pentagon. Neither exists for a country other than India," he said.

"But the term 'Major Defence Partner' does not automatically trigger a specific process or program in the US system. Our two countries are feeling their way around the contours of our defence relationship," Rossow told PTI.

"India desires advanced US technology today, while the US would like more clarity on the specific operations India may be willing to undertake in the future to contribute to regional security. It is a process that has seen great progress, which we hope will carry over into the next US administration," Rossow said in response to a question.

Over the last one decade the defence trade between India and the US has increased from being almost non-existent to more than USD 14 billion. This is expected to increase manifold as India embarks on a major defense modernisation drive
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...inistration-official/articleshow/52923468.cms

Except F 22 ,B 2 and other fith gen tech :sarcastic:

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It is actually good that we have such good relation with the sole superpower in this world .
But deal with them carefully .Do not bring them in our core national interest area .
We can expect anything from them .After all like us ,they also like their own interest .
We donot need any aid or subsidy .Our relation with them should be totally based on mutual interest .
Always prepare for a separate arrangement with them .
It appears our leadership gives them some 'extraordinary' offer ,that is why they are tirelessly working like this .
We know our leaders always give priority to our national interest .Even if we sign LSA/CISMOA ,we should create a separate place for our engagement with them .Donot allow them in our core network.
I hopes our officials and politicians knows all of this .

'Trust But Verify'
 
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It appears our leadership gives them some 'extraordinary' offer ,that is why they are tirelessly working like this .
We know our leaders always give priority to our national interest .Even if we sign LSA/CISMOA ,we should create a separate place for our engagement with them .Donot allow them in our core network.
I hopes our officials and politicians knows all of this .

'Trust But Verify'

thats the right way ... ahha ahha :D
 
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tell me do we have a choise russian are always fleecing and not giving the rquired tech but even if they are its almost on par with western systems cost wise while there maintenece is a nighmare , france always quotes double the market price and sells it to us at 20%-30% more than the rates of same level US equipment

now when USA itself is giving us a waver its foolish not to grab the opportunity and make most of it by giving defence related US firms 100% FDI & MII option as no matter what no one can beat the leathelity and potency and price of US weapons

look what china is doing by giving there latest weapons tech to our arch enemy and trying to go against our every interests where it can hurt it ... in times like this trying to be a good guy is nit just foolish but suecidal

US weapons are not cheap and the baggage that comes with a purchase of weapon plateforms from the US cannot be ignored. It would be in India's interest to diversify our weapon purchase as a mix of the products of all the international suppliers. While startegic purchase should be made from Russia, France and Israel with TOT along with an effort of indigenous development of all the required tech. over the period of time buy the other important assets from the US.
 
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