India to end defence reliance on Russia: Report

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I think u r missing the point ,these are not based on 70's design ,they are world class ships and they have a high indigenous content . besides hull they include sub systems like Bel humsa sonar, Bel EMCCA combat management system,Ellora electronic support measures, nstl mareech, kavach decoy system,Bel Aparna ,Bel rawl, Bel revathi 3d radar and many more , the design and the stealth technology is also indigenous the future ships of I Dian navy will have more indigenous content


Why you have to bring the 7×times bigger talk in your every comment, we never wanted to mess with you in the first place ,we wanted our diplomatic relations to be like us and Canada, we never wanted to destroy Pakistan ,


You might wanna read about Arab and Israel wars , you might be surprised how a tiny nation held up against the Arab countries

What you say is COMPLETELY at odds with what indian nationalists and political leaders have said many many times over the decades. Along with what the sikhs did to us in August 1947. The indian/hindu/sikh aim HAS ALWAYS been the annihilation of the Pakistani race and nation.

Ask the israelis to stand up to the Arabs/Persians WITHOUT american and Western assistance, resources, weapons, technology, science and unlimited funding then we'll see EXACTLY how powerful they are............ On top of that, the Arabs are militarily inferior to virtually all non-Arabs except the blacks.............wheras Pakistan has had to go up against one of the most powerful militaries in the world ENTIRELY by ourselves for OVER 70 years. An enemy that is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege. An enemy that also has the FULL BACKING of the ENTIRE West & Russia. Pakistan is the 1st ever nation in the ENTIRE HISTORY of mankind to have survived those impossible odds for over 70 years.

 

[Ultima Thule]

If we shall participate theret you will run away from there as well.

In your wishful thinking you stupid @HariPrasad sir

 

[ni8mare]

You guys also claimed that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance... So unless you don't provide any evidence to support your claims thy are false, null, void and worthless. Whatever Pakistan is doing or not is up for a lot of conjecture. But what can be 100% determined is that Pakistan is the world's 1st ever nation to be able to develop the capability to prevent an enemy that is more than 7x bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege, from destroying us........ .......something that has NEVER EVER been done before in all recorded human history.......

First, we are not 7 times bigger than pakistan which you keep one repeating in every single thread. We are ~6.3 times bigger than pakistan........please use updated population of pakistan which is 215 million

Second, it's the same thing which you keep one repeating in every single thread (i know you cannot come up with better argument), but that does not address what i have asked but I know you will divert from here

Rather than pics, any irrefutable and reliable evidence that india produces ANYTHING that is militarily meaningful? The pics above fail to disprove the REAL reason WHY india is the biggest arms importer in the world, along with Saudi Arabia:

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/03/12/us-top-global-arms-export-india-import/

See again diverting the topic ........

You said

They are ALL based on White European/Western science, technology, equipment, assistance, innovation, designs, expertise and ingenuity. Is there ANYTHING the indians can 100% indigenously produce ALL BY THEMSELVES that can be comparable to the military products designed by the West, Russia and China?

When shown picture with proof ....you came to this

Rather than pics, any irrefutable and reliable evidence that india produces ANYTHING that is militarily meaningful? The pics above fail to disprove the REAL reason WHY india is the biggest arms importer in the world, along with Saudi Arabia:

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/03/12/us-top-global-arms-export-india-import/

Yes, And for instant
pakistan navy looks like a small coast guard navy in front of indian navy ....and this is due to indigenous production that we are capable to undertake while pakistan is still dragging its feet to sign only 4 so called corvette from turkey

No we are not worlds largest but SA

 

[HariPrasad]

When you guys say that india should have scrapped it, it tells a lot about our weapon systems.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

First, we are not 7 times bigger than pakistan which you keep one repeating in every single thread. We are ~6.3 times bigger than pakistan........please use updated population of pakistan which is 215 million

Second, it's the same thing which you keep one repeating in every single thread (i know you cannot come up with better argument), but that does not address what i have asked but I know you will divert from here


See again diverting the topic ........

You said


When shown picture with proof ....you came to this


Yes, And for instant
pakistan navy looks like a small coast guard navy in front of indian navy ....and this is due to indigenous production that we are capable to undertake while pakistan is still dragging its feet to sign only 4 so called corvette from turkey

No we are not worlds largest but SA

6.3 according to indian assertions.......But the reality is that india is probably MORE THAN 7× bigger than Pakistan. Even IF india was 4× bigger than Pakistan, that is still impossible odds against us.......

Again you fail to show ANY meaningful, irrefutable, reliable and concrete proof of your claims. You are simply giving credence to the notion that indians are all bluster, hot air and talk........

Your remarks about the Pakistan navy is EXACTLY the same as previous moronoic and outlandish indian claims that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance............

Unless you can provide anything of substance and credence, ALL your claims are false, meaningles, empty, of no value or significance.........

 

[HariPrasad]

First, we are not 7 times bigger than pakistan which you keep one repeating in every single thread. We are ~6.3 times bigger than pakistan........please use updated population of pakistan which is 215 million

Second, it's the same thing which you keep one repeating in every single thread (i know you cannot come up with better argument), but that does not address what i have asked but I know you will divert from here


See again diverting the topic ........

You said


When shown picture with proof ....you came to this


Yes, And for instant
pakistan navy looks like a small coast guard navy in front of indian navy ....and this is due to indigenous production that we are capable to undertake while pakistan is still dragging its feet to sign only 4 so called corvette from turkey

No we are not worlds largest but SA

Only kolkata class ships are more than enough for whole Pakistan navy.

 

[ni8mare]

6.3 according to indian assertions.......But the reality is that india is probably MORE THAN 7× bigger than Pakistan. Even IF india was 4× bigger than Pakistan, that is still impossible odds against us.......

Please provide the reality , i like to know, rather then blabbering you should give the number ....don't just give out probably number out your @SS

Your remarks about the Pakistan navy is EXACTLY the same as previous moronoic and outlandish indian claims that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance............

If pakistan coast guard navy consists of 4 patrol fishing boat makes me moronic ...ok

Again you fail to show ANY meaningful, irrefutable, reliable and concrete proof of your claims. You are simply giving credence to the notion that indians are all bluster, hot air and talk........

Still cannot put better argument ....and what notion is all bluster, hot air and talk that pakistan coast guard navy consists of 4 patrol fishing boat...is it false??

Only kolkata class ships are more than enough for whole Pakistan navy.

I know

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Please provide the reality , i like to know, rather then blabbering you should give the number ....don't just give out probably number out your @SS


If pakistan coast guard navy consists of 4 patrol fishing boat makes me moronic ...ok


Still cannot put better argument ....and what notion is all bluster, hot air and talk that pakistan coast guard navy consists of 4 patrol fishing boat...is it false??


I know

Well let's agree with your narrative. Now can you please provide evidence for all your claims. If you do provide honest, irrefutable, reliable, conclusive and honest proof than you stand correct. If not then what you say is ALL false, lies, propaganda and indian gibberish. The same indianistic gibberish that vehemently proclaimed that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance.......

If Pakistan does in fact have a rubbish navy then it says a lot about the indian military. Despite being so bad, india continues to remain FAR TOO WEAK, powerless and incapable of attacking and fighting an enemy that is more than 7x smaller than india and does not have abundant access to the world's most most advanced weapons systems like india does. Not too mention the fact that india also has the FULL backing of the ENTIRE West and Russia.........................so despite all the threats indianists and nationalists make about annihilating the Pakistani race and nation, at the end of the day no matter what you say or do, you can do NOTHING!...................

Keep talking, posting and blowing hot air but remain INCAPABLE of doing ANYTHING to us in real life......I am perfectly happy with this arrangement.............

Only kolkata class ships are more than enough for whole Pakistan navy.

If that were true, india would have attacked Pakistan by now. Especially since you would have the full backing of the ENTIRE West and Russia as well as having abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems which are denied to us. You are spouting more indianistic conjectures, hot air and bluster.

 

[HariPrasad]

Well let's agree with your narrative. Now can you please provide evidence for all your claims. If you do provide honest, irrefutable, reliable, conclusive and honest proof than you stand correct. If not then what you say is ALL false, lies, propaganda and indian gibberish. The same indianistic gibberish that vehemently proclaimed that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance.......

If Pakistan does in fact have a rubbish navy then it says a lot about the indian military. Despite being so bad, india continues to remain FAR TOO WEAK, powerless and incapable of attacking and fighting an enemy that is more than 7x smaller than india and does not have abundant access to the world's most most advanced weapons systems like india does. Not too mention the fact that india also has the FULL backing of the ENTIRE West and Russia.........................so despite all the threats indianists and nationalists make about annihilating the Pakistani race and nation, at the end of the day no matter what you say or do, you can do NOTHING!...................

Keep talking, posting and blowing hot air but remain INCAPABLE of doing ANYTHING to us in real life......I am perfectly happy with this arrangement.............






If that were true, india would have attacked Pakistan by now. Especially since you would have the full backing of the ENTIRE West and Russia as well as having abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems which are denied to us. You are spouting more indianistic conjectures, hot air and bluster.

No, we will not attack any nation only because we are strong. You attacked us and what we did in karachi is a glouriou history of our navy. We are much stronger today. We do not need to go to sea to target any ship of your country. We can shoot down any of your ship from 600 km away.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No, we will not attack any nation only because we are strong. You attacked us and what we did in karachi is a glouriou history of our navy. We are much stronger today. We do not need to go to sea to target any ship of your country. We can shoot down any of your ship from 600 km away.

If india was even a 10th as strong as you claim to be then they would have attacked Pakistan by now................the abnormal, disturbing hatred indians have for Pakistanis/Muslims is evidence if this. NO OTHER group of people hates another group more on this planet then the way indians/hindus/sikhs hate Pakistan/Pakistanis and muslims. sikh atrocities against a million Pakistanis in 1947 and the current treatment of Kashmiris by indians is concrete evidence of this.

Your bluster about indian naval capabilities against Pakistan is EXACTLY the same as retarded indianistic claims that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance.............. On top if that you have provided NO evidence to back your outlandish claims.......... Therefore they are fasle, lies, worthless, null and void...

You are providing poor excuses for reasons as to why india remains FAR TOO weak, powerless and incapable of fighting Pakistan despite being more than 7x bigger than us and having abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege....

PS History has shown, that WHENEVER indians have the upper hand against those they hate the most, it is in their dna not to show restraint but to annihilate them. ESPECIALLY when they have the FULL BACKING of the West and Russia. As events in August 1947 show.

 

[Ali Tariq]

India Moves to Reduce its Reliance on Russia’s Defense Imports


India moves to reduce its reliance on Russia’s defence imports

 

[Zen0]

Stupid Pakistani propaganda media

We are literally buying s400s & they say nonsense like this

 

[IndianIronFist]

Russians brothers did not do well by supplying India with fake Chinese made spares for MIG aircrafts and other armaments for Indian defence forces, this made us lose confidence ...

 

[HariPrasad]

They are ALL based on White European/Western science, technology, equipment, assistance, innovation, designs, expertise and ingenuity. Is there ANYTHING the indians can 100% indigenously produce ALL BY THEMSELVES that can be comparable to the military products designed by the West, Russia and China?

Also your claims seem false in light of the fact that india is the BIGGEST arms importer in the world. This COMPLETELY destroys your claim that india has the ability to produce capable or advanced weapons systems:

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/03/12/us-top-global-arms-export-india-import/


Also, once again I ask, WHERE is the evidence that supports your initial claims?





Fact is, india DOES NOT have this capability. If it did, it wouldn't be the world's BIGGEST arms importer, it would make those weapons themselves:

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/03/12/us-top-global-arms-export-india-import/

What do you think of china who was world's ibiggest arm exporter of the world few years ago?

 

[Panzerfaust 3]

What you say is COMPLETELY at odds with what indian nationalists and political leaders have said many many times over the decades. Along with what the sikhs did to us in August 1947. The indian/hindu/sikh aim HAS ALWAYS been the annihilation of the Pakistani race and nation.

Ask the israelis to stand up to the Arabs/Persians WITHOUT american and Western assistance, resources, weapons, technology, science and unlimited funding then we'll see EXACTLY how powerful they are............ On top of that, the Arabs are militarily inferior to virtually all non-Arabs except the blacks.............wheras Pakistan has had to go up against one of the most powerful militaries in the world ENTIRELY by ourselves for OVER 70 years. An enemy that is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege. An enemy that also has the FULL BACKING of the ENTIRE West & Russia. Pakistan is the 1st ever nation in the ENTIRE HISTORY of mankind to have survived those impossible odds for over 70 years.

I think my friend you are hopelessly I'll informed ,and what exactly Sikhs and Hindus did to you ? Rioting Muslim mobs almost burned every city in India ,it was your agenda that u will either have a destroyed India or divided India
Sikhs and hindus returned the favour to be exact ,they were not actually the ones who started riots in the first place ,when entire trains with dead bodies started coming in Indian punjab that's when they picked up arms
You claim that our motive is the entire destruction of Pakistan ? What stopped us from destroying you in 1971? At that time you were in serious trouble defeated and humiliated even shah of Iran was ready to occupy the whole of Baluchistan in case your country splits in further pieces
In 1974 we tested our first nuclear device and after that we never tried to invade Pakistan ,it was all peaceful until you tested your own nukes and started another war over Kashmir
You are so obsessed with Kashmir that you even forget to take care of your national interests,
You talk about the treatment of Kashmiris ,and try to avoid what these jihadis did to innocent Kashmiri pandits the original inhabitants of this land ,these pandits are refugees in their own country
About treatment of Kashmiris its upto them they get what they deserve ,they pick up arms they will be killed ,they show harmony and and will for peace they will be left alone ,only south Kashmir is violent the rest of Kashmir is peaceful ,we have recently uplifted afspa from many parts of North East
We cannot allow jihadis to dictated terms ,Kashmir was a peaceful state of India before the start of insurgency (which was supported by you ), you tried to spark insurgency before in 1947 and in 1965 but you weren't successful ,all this bloodshed is your doing because u had greater Pakistan dreams
You think Pakistanis are so innocent and the whole world is against them and is conspiring to bring you down?

No, we will not attack any nation only because we are strong. You attacked us and what we did in karachi is a glouriou history of our navy. We are much stronger today. We do not need to go to sea to target any ship of your country. We can shoot down any of your ship from 600 km away.

Hey mate but the true range of Brahmos is 800 km??