India to buy 60-63 Rafales jets off the shelf from France; MMRCA deal off:

[Stephen Cohen]

IAF will be OK once we get say 50 Rafales say by 2020

Because BY THAT time we will also have received all our required Su 30 ; LCA mk 1

The Mig 29 upgradation will be over
Mirage 2000 upgradation will be half completed
Jaguar upgradation will be done

And Maybe one squadron of FGFA too would have been received

What the minister is hinting at is that we want MORE Rafales than just 36

But that will come from HAL

 

[Matrixx]

I thought it's in ready to fly condition and Modi will come back on them........

Modi will come back in Airbus 380

 

[anant_s]

Can we assume increase in number means may delay in induction of FGFA...

Actually it could mean a lot of things. we discussed yesterday that Rafale (given its performance and capabilities) can be used to cover for a lot of machines either due for retirement (MiG 21, 27 possibly some Jaguars), or delay in induction (LCA mk 2) and attrition losses (Mirage 2000 and MiG 29).
Besides FGFA being an entirely different generation of aircraft can't be compared with Rafale.
That said, it is likely (as a lot of us believe here) that the order could well grow past 144 mark touted for induction in future.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir @The_Showstopper @magudi Any comments of you on this development ?

congrats.

 

[anant_s]

Sabr ka phal meetha hota hai

Anyways F3 R standard should be considered for the rest 108 fighters for they all are to serve IAF for at least three decades.



BrahMos-M can compensate for ASMP-A - BrahMos-M may be heavier at 1.4-ton weight (against 860 kg ASMP-A) but in no other parameter is it outperformed by the ASMP-A.

There is always mid-life upgrade opportunity. I'm sure we are getting best bang for our buck.

 

[NKVD]

@Abingdonboy are we getting meteor BVRAAM with this 36 or just MICA ?

May be in last Batch after 2018

 

[Windjammer]

Oh COME ON ; We know the reality

The best case scenario for Pakistan was
if the deal collapsed or fizzled out

What is the harm in being honest

You are behaving like a typical fan boy, let me remind you that what i posted is a narrative by your defence minister published in an Indian paper. But displaying your frivolous nature, you have to drag the argument elsewhere.
BTW, I'm not sure if any Pakistani paper even carried this three year old news.

 

[magudi]

@jamahir @The_Showstopper @magudi Any comments of you on this development ?

Utterly stupid move . Should've either cancelled the deal as a whole or signed it instaed of buying few off the shelf and giving france the leverage to arm twist us .Typical modi bhakts like you will upload the mess up we know

congrats.

Are you serious ?
Waste of billions when farmers are out there suiciding

 

[PWFI]

i am hearing about indian since 2006 and still nothing to worry about these big mouths, they can only

 

[Bornubus]

Indian Media is not Reliable

 

[Khalid Newazi]

So, does this mean "No HAL Tejas II"?

 

[The Headache]

Utterly stupid move . Should've either cancelled the deal as a whole or signed it instaed of buying few off the shelf and giving france the leverage to arm twist us .Typical modi bhakts like you will upload the mess up we know



Are you serious ?
Waste of billions when farmers are out there suiciding

And typical ch**iyas like you with exactly no info. will keep on whining around here!

congrats.

But why Magudi is unhappy?

 

[duhastmish]

These number of Rafael are too low to make any impact.
More over Pakistan was not really kept in frame of mind for Rafael.

The whole Pakistani doctrine of minimum attack maximum defence is perfect. No matter how much india try to increase number once in the Pakistani territory their radar and most importantly better pilot. Will come in framework. In dog fights it's a Pakistani edge.

 

[magudi]

And typical ch**iyas like you with exactly no info. will keep on whining around here!


But why Magudi is unhappy?

Keep patting yourself on the back.
Feku is on the decline
All your bhakti is shortlived my brother
Only feku could've screwed up a deal like this and he didn't dissapoint
Keep supporting illiterates

 

[cerberus]

These number of Rafael are too low to make any impact.
More over Pakistan was not really kept in frame of mind for Rafael.

The whole Pakistani doctrine of minimum attack maximum defence is perfect. No matter how much india try to increase number once in the Pakistani territory their radar and most importantly better pilot. Will come in framework. In dog fights it's a Pakistani edge.

Its denial nothing Else.Any Big operation Like invasion of Pakistan will Done with Proper Planning and taking Every operational point into consideration the IAF which operationally and Economically superior to PAF will check all the things.

These number of Rafael are too low to make any impact.

this Initial and Separate deal from the original MMrca which done to maintain operational Readiness of IAF.
the MMrca will be done in follow up Deal after this which add number up to 144