India to Build, Export T-50 Stealth Fighter by 2020

[Water Car Engineer]

The bottom line is, India has no expertise or experience.

What?? In Aeronautical Engineering experience? This is wrong.

^^^

This is all accumulated experience.

Pakistan's case is different. It has been using F-16s since early 80s. After all those years with experience and judging its capability, Pakistan decided it wanted to make JF-17 like the F-16 that would be sanction proof. Note it wasn't like Pakistan had smarter engineers, but was due to reverse engineering.

Listen, just like India rides off Russia's gained experience with PAK-FA project. Except Pakistan is riding heavily off of China's years of toiling in the aeronautical field. You guys give yourself waaaay too much credit. When it's obvious your aeronautical industry is non-existent.

Pakistan making something like the JF-17(by yourself) is India making Tejas way back when. Except your industry is that far back right now.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Adding to that , India already made is plane HF-24 Marut in way back 60's , capable of reaching mach 2 ,(airframe)

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

Export Version of T-50......Ohh that will be a huge success.

 

[faithfulguy]

Export Version of T-50......Ohh that will be a huge success.

A water down version.

 

[Imran Khan]

my baaap apny liye to banao phly export ki baad main sochna

 

[EagleEyes]

They forgot to add 2020 IST (Indian Standard Time).

 

[TopCat]

No we won't, because MKI was a customised version of a fighter that Russia developed on their own. FGFA on the other hand will be jointly developed by Russia and India, including full access to all parts that Russia will integrate and 50% share of the whole project. At MKI we are still dependent on Russia, at FGFA we are not, since it's belongs to us at well!

That is what faithfulguy don't understand either, because we have a 50:50 share in the development, unlike F35 partners, that have only limited production share, no freedom to even maintain their fighters in their countries, let alone get access to the same high techs that US forces will get or their source codes.
We don't wanted to get a watered down version anymore and make us dependent on others, that's why we constantly rejecting F35.

But have you expected something else from him?

So, does it mean even if Russia export directly to 3rd country, they got to pay a royalty to India?
I m sure India got to pay royalty to Russia if India assembles and export.

 

[gslv mk3]

So, does it mean even if Russia export directly to 3rd country, they got to pay a royalty to India?
I m sure India got to pay royalty to Russia if India assembles and export.

We will do the manufacturing....thanx

 

[janon]

A water down version.

It has been explained to you before that the contrary is true. Now you are trolling, by repeating it needlessly.

As Ram Jethmalani told karan thapar once, "Repeated bullsiht does not become wisdom."

 

[janon]

So, does it mean even if Russia export directly to 3rd country, they got to pay a royalty to India?
I m sure India got to pay royalty to Russia if India assembles and export.

I don't know if it would be called 'royalty'. But India holds 50% intellectual property rights (as Sancho explains above), so India will be paid a certain amount for that. It might be the buyer who pays that, not Russia. I don't know how much, but I'm assuming that India can earn a not unsubstantial amount, if it becomes an export success.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

That is what the article says. That India will only get the export version. It make sense that Russia won't share it's latest tech as it might not be save. Also, India is a late investor to the project as the plane was already prototyped.

The article title as well as the 1st line mentions:

"India will begin production of an export variant of Russian plane-maker Sukhoi's T-50 stealth fighter"

How does "begin production of an export variant" = "India will only get the export version"

CCP logic or CCP certified cyrptanalysis, which seems to have decoded such a coded message from the article, which rest of us are unable to see?

 

[prototype]

A water down version.

Yes, have a tight sleep, this belief will help you escaping nightmares.

Without India the project was even not financially viable for Russia, and yes when we talk about JV this is Russia and India, not Taiwan and US.

On topic FGFA will join IAF even before J-20 is out of its testing period.

The article title as well as the 1st line mentions:



How does "begin production of an export variant" = "India will only get the export version"

CCP logic or CCP certified cyrptanalysis, which seems to have decoded such a coded message from the article, which rest of us are unable to see?

Its more about a problem with comprehension, to learn English I suggest TOEFEL more than fake American flags, at the end whats the point if you end up learning a waterdown version.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Adding to that , India already made is plane HF-24 Marut in way back 60's , capable of reaching mach 2 ,(airframe)

with the Help of Germany, It was sole German design that was adopted and built by India under German assistance.

 

[arp2041]

So, does it mean even if Russia export directly to 3rd country, they got to pay a royalty to India?
I m sure India got to pay royalty to Russia if India assembles and export.

India & Russia are investing 50% each in the PAK-FA project, currently the R&D & other expenses excluding the cost of the final version has come out to be $11 billion, Russia & India both paying $5.5 billion each to fund the project. Now whenever the export of PAK-FAs will be considered than the receiver nation should be friend country of both Russia & India & if any one of them does not favor the export of the a/c to a particular country they can veto over it. Secondly about the question u asked, since India & Russia both are investing 50-50 in the partnership the profits/royalty also will be shared equally between them, it's same as any other business deal.

 

[fast]

India & Russia are investing 50% each in the PAK-FA project, currently the R&D & other expenses excluding the cost of the final version has come out to be $11 billion, Russia & India both paying $5.5 billion each to fund the project. Now whenever the export of PAK-FAs will be considered than the receiver nation should be friend country of both Russia & India & if any one of them does not favor the export of the a/c to a particular country they can veto over it. Secondly about the question u asked, since India & Russia both are investing 50-50 in the partnership the profits/royalty also will be shared equally between them, it's same as any other business deal.

You are deluding yourself. Russia will never let India control the fighter tech of this project nor dictate which nation it can sell the fighters to. If Russia ever wanted to sell PAK-FA to Pak, India can't do nothing about it. Whatever profit Russia got selling the fighters will not be shared with India. Russian also will not allow India to resell the fighters to other countries. India only gains the right to buy the fighters by funding its development.