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Madam Sanskrit came from our land, was codified on our land, written in our land and then exported to you guys. Learn about Panini.
Really? I would like to know, if you base your arguments on any source? Or just saying since IVC site is in Pakistan.
Also, from what I read, Panini is revered as Indian. You need to reshape that history then.
 
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Well Sanskrit for sure did not come from the Ganga - when we know in history it was just thick jungle with banana munching Aboriginals dangling about on trees. I am sure you have heard anbout ANI and ASI debate. Sanskrit came from north west. You can if you wish thank us for giving you a language, a civilization, cloths to wear, even a name for your country.



New DNA evidence is solving the most fought-over question in Indian history. And you will be surprised at how sure-footed the answer is, writes Tony Joseph
The thorniest, most fought-over question in Indian history is slowly but surely getting answered: did Indo-European language speakers, who called themselves Aryans, stream into India sometime around 2,000 BC – 1,500 BC when the Indus Valley civilisation came to an end, bringing with them Sanskrit and a distinctive set of cultural practices? Genetic research based on an avalanche of new DNA evidence is making scientists around the world converge on an unambiguous answer: yes, they did.

This may come as a surprise to many — and a shock to some — because the dominant narrative in recent years has been that genetics research had thoroughly disproved the Aryan migration theory. This interpretation was always a bit of a stretch as anyone who read the nuanced scientific papers in the original knew. But now it has broken apart altogether under a flood of new data on Y-chromosomes (or chromosomes that are transmitted through the male parental line, from father to son).

Lines of descent
Until recently, only data on mtDNA (or matrilineal DNA, transmitted only from mother to daughter) were available and that seemed to suggest there was little external infusion into the Indian gene pool over the last 12,500 years or so. New Y-DNA data has turned that conclusion upside down, with strong evidence of external infusion of genes into the Indian male lineage during the period in question.

The reason for the difference in mtDNA and Y-DNA data is obvious in hindsight: there was strong sex bias in Bronze Age migrations. In other words, those who migrated were predominantly male and, therefore, those gene flows do not really show up in the mtDNA data. On the other hand, they do show up in the Y-DNA data: specifically, about 17.5% of Indian male lineage has been found to belong to haplogroup R1a (haplogroups identify a single line of descent), which is today spread across Central Asia, Europe and South Asia. Pontic-Caspian Steppe is seen as the region from where R1a spread both west and east, splitting into different sub-branches along the way.

The paper that put all of the recent discoveries together into a tight and coherent history of migrations into India was published just three months ago in a peer-reviewed journal called ‘BMC Evolutionary Biology’. In that paper, titled “A Genetic Chronology for the Indian Subcontinent Points to Heavily Sex-biased Dispersals”, 16 scientists led by Prof. Martin P. Richards of the University of Huddersfield, U.K., concluded: “Genetic influx from Central Asia in the Bronze Age was strongly male-driven, consistent with the patriarchal, patrilocal and patrilineal social structure attributed to the inferred pastoralist early Indo-European society. This was part of a much wider process of Indo-European expansion, with an ultimate source in the Pontic-Caspian region, which carried closely related Y-chromosome lineages… across a vast swathe of Eurasia between 5,000 and 3,500 years ago”.

In an email exchange, Prof. Richards said the prevalence of R1a in India was “very powerful evidence for a substantial Bronze Age migration from central Asia that most likely brought Indo-European speakers to India.” The robust conclusions of Professor Richards and his team rest on their own substantive research as well as a vast trove of new data and findings that have become available in recent years, through the work of genetic scientists around the world.

http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/sc...he-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece
 
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You are missing the point my dear. Or don't want to accept it even though it is simple to understand. ;)

India is not getting promoted through this forum. Pakistanis can simply ban all Indians and nobody can do anything about it. I am not saying our forum is hijacked since things are in control and fellow Pakistanis get a good time pass by insulting and humiliating their enemies.

The thing is that all this won't be happening and you won't see Pakistanis discussing India if there are no Indians on this forum. Indians despite all issues, despite bans, despite all the abuses and insults come back again and again to this forum

We Pakistanis can abuse these guys all we want to. We can say whatever sh!t we want to about their families. But these poor souls can't stop themselves and keep coming back for more.

The question is why??? Can't you understand? It is their obsession with Pakistan. They are obsessed with my country. They can't live without talking about it. They can't live without feeling about it.

If you want Pakistani to discuss India less and Pakistan more than ask these guys to have some shame and try at least once to control their obsession with their enemies.

I can guarantee you, if these bharatis somehow can control their obsession with Pakistan then you won't see any Pakistani discussing India here. It is a sure guarantee. Try it once. ;)



You don't count Pakistani insults since you can't stop yourself from coming here. :lol:

Either you think about insults or control your obsession with Pakistan that you can't control. :)
You are missing the point my dear. Or don't want to accept it even though it is simple to understand. ;)

India is not getting promoted through this forum. Pakistanis can simply ban all Indians and nobody can do anything about it. I am not saying our forum is hijacked since things are in control and fellow Pakistanis get a good time pass by insulting and humiliating their enemies.

The thing is that all this won't be happening and you won't see Pakistanis discussing India if there are no Indians on this forum. Indians despite all issues, despite bans, despite all the abuses and insults come back again and again to this forum

We Pakistanis can abuse these guys all we want to. We can say whatever sh!t we want to about their families. But these poor souls can't stop themselves and keep coming back for more.

The question is why??? Can't you understand? It is their obsession with Pakistan. They are obsessed with my country. They can't live without talking about it. They can't live without feeling about it.

If you want Pakistani to discuss India less and Pakistan more than ask these guys to have some shame and try at least once to control their obsession with their enemies.

I can guarantee you, if these bharatis somehow can control their obsession with Pakistan then you won't see any Pakistani discussing India here. It is a sure guarantee. Try it once. ;)



You don't count Pakistani insults since you can't stop yourself from coming here. :lol:

Either you think about insults or control your obsession with Pakistan that you can't control. :)
so what if Indian boast about themselves. Is it a crime? No one is stopping you boasting about your country if there is any thing to boast about. It doesn't mean you will insult Indians and their religion. Forget the Indians, how about if some other nationals start writing bed about your people and your religion. You will have to change your attitude mr before you start getting abused by others.
 
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Madam Sanskrit came from our land, was codified on our land, written in our land and then exported to you guys. Learn about Panini.

I'm no madam of yours . Address me sir if u find me honorable.
And about Panini , let me tell you , Panini was antithesis of pakistaniyat . Panini doesn't survive in pakistan . Though Panini lived in what is called pakistan today but the ideas of Panini were killed in pakistan and yet it survives in india among us .
 
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Hey @PAKISTANFOREVER One for you. Have a look at this. A visual reality of how we civilized the Ganga swamps. Do you like it?

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Panini was antithesis of pakistaniyat
Maybe he was. He lived a long, long time ago and he would find most things today as alien but for sure he would expect the aboriginal decendants of Ganga to lay at his feet like what is expected of untouchables in India. That is anti-thesis of everything he stood for. We assume of course he was Brahmin and he would have found 90% of present day Indians as repugnent and below his station.
 
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I don't consider Pakistan an enemy nation. I hope to visit it someday when things are saner. I had many Pakistani friends in University and got along great with them. I joined this forum a few years ago because I was researching the 1930s and 1940s and hoped to learn something. Yes, it gets pretty rough but the population here represents a tiny aggressive lot. More often than not, you see Indians and Pakistanis sharing apartments, going out together, helping each other out. I usually reserve my choicest insults for the Chinese.

And why do you think they aren't our enemy. Change your opinion about them my friend. Don't be Gandhi. I am not saying that all off them come from same pot. But in majority abuse Indians and their religion. I live in Britain and I have lots of Pakistani friend but they are not like this but these internet warrior are different and creating a bad picture about other Pakistani. My blood boils when ever I see these people abusing Indians and hindu religion. I am still keeping my self on hold but I don't think it will last when I start opening my mouth in the same way.
 
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Hey @PAKISTANFOREVER
We assume of course he was Brahmin and he would have found 90% of present day Indians as repugnent and below his station.

Even if i go by ur own words panini would find clanship with rest 10% of india as they are bhrahmins though his Vedanta Hinduism was castesless , but in pakistan he would have been killed for simply being a brahmin . Now see how far you have gone from panini and still wishfully say " panini is ours " , yes he is yours to kill.:coffee::pakistan:
 
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completely ban Indian members. All IP addresses originating from India should be banned. Indians should be allowed by application, on a case by case basis.

or some Pakistanis can pose as Indians here as in the case of some nationalities!!!!
 
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Seems like you are the one. You idiot
Hey Sam boy. Gandhi stitched with Hindoo and you get what? Yeh that's right. You. Class A Gandhoo. Your probabably a Gujju anyway which would be rather poignant. To make this fair and in interests of having a non discriminatory environment you can me anytime *Pak* as long as you be the *Gandhoo*.

@PAKISTANFOREVER

Here is my theory. As the invaders pushed into the Ganga swamps they mixed with the local Aboriginals but deep in the forests some groups of Aboriginals survived in their pure form. That is why in India (particularly in Odisha and south) they have jungles full [millions] of pure A grade aboriginals that might add to 100 million of what they call Adivasi or Munda people. The also have over 300 million grade B mixed bunch called Untouchables but that is another story.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...AUICygC&biw=1152&bih=536#imgrc=NaoxIEgbYJ4tDM:

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Hey @PAKISTANFOREVER One for you. Have a look at this. A visual reality of how we civilized the Ganga swamps. Do you like it?

TLGqg50.png




Maybe he was. He lived a long, long time ago and he would find most things today as alien but for sure he would expect the aboriginal decendants of Ganga to lay at his feet like what is expected of untouchables in India. That is anti-thesis of everything he stood for. We assume of course he was Brahmin and he would have found 90% of present day Indians as repugnent and below his station.
If these false tales, and your silly reminiscing helps you sleep at night- I really pity you.
 
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Hey Sam boy. Gandhi stitched with Hindoo and you get what? Yeh that's right. You. Class A Gandhoo. Your probabably a Gujju anyway which would be rather poignant. To make this fair and in interests of having a non discriminatory environment you can me anytime *Pak* as long as you be the *Gandhoo*.

@PAKISTANFOREVER

Here is my theory. As the invaders pushed into the Ganga swamps they mixed with the local Aboriginals but deep in the forests some groups of Aboriginals survived in their pure form. That is why in India (particularly in Odisha and south) they have jungles full [millions] of pure A grade aboriginals that might add to 100 million of what they call Adivasi or Munda people. The also have over 300 million grade B mixed bunch called Untouchables but that is another story.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...AUICygC&biw=1152&bih=536#imgrc=NaoxIEgbYJ4tDM:

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Too right. Here's some of them (WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IMAGES MAY MAKE YOU PUKE):

http://68.media.tumblr.com/05fa1d82aaebee915fc0f05d4f498536/tumblr_inline_o4c0qbEIEC1trd1i3_500.jpg


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-soywmvP4...S-hZZZz8m-b3FFatBg/s1600/Karthy+and+Marie.JPG
 
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Hey Sam boy. Gandhi stitched with Hindoo and you get what? Yeh that's right. You. Class A Gandhoo. Your probabably a Gujju anyway which would be rather poignant. To make this fair and in interests of having a non discriminatory environment you can me anytime *Pak* as long as you be the *Gandhoo*.

@PAKISTANFOREVER

Here is my theory. As the invaders pushed into the Ganga swamps they mixed with the local Aboriginals but deep in the forests some groups of Aboriginals survived in their pure form. That is why in India (particularly in Odisha and south) they have jungles full [millions] of pure A grade aboriginals that might add to 100 million of what they call Adivasi or Munda people. The also have over 300 million grade B mixed bunch called Untouchables but that is another story.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...AUICygC&biw=1152&bih=536#imgrc=NaoxIEgbYJ4tDM:

ifeUj83.png
You're supposed to be a think tank (whatever that is) and yet you disregard and break the forum rules with such contempt ?
 
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