India tells Myanmar Rohingya issue a ‘ticking bomb’ with Pakistan trigger

[Mugwop]

Pakistan doesn't neighbor Myanmar

 

[Cookie Monster]

Ek CPEC kya aagya loans waala itna uchaal rahe ho tum log bht Dino se.
Kuch aur aajaega bada toh sabko dabake rakhoge. I ain't against Pakistan developing but against your bs rants that we are jealous.
Lol please this is for every Pakistani, we aren't jealous.
Only thing which bothers us that it passes through your occupational Kashmir which is legally claimed by India and even I don't have any problem when you guys are minting money out of there unless you stop using all and gilgit for sending terrorists in here.

If Kashmir legally belongs to India on the grounds of Instrument of accession then Junagadh legally belongs to Pakistan on the grounds of Instrument of accession. Go read up on it before getting emotional here.

 

[Ahmad Durrani]

There is total disconnect with Pakistan's long term interests and current policies. We need to support Rohingya and Bangladesh and not sell any weapons to Myanmar. Only China is pushing Pakistan to sell JF-17 to Myanmar. When US tried to push Pakistan against our interests we refused to follow US dictats. We refused Saudi Arabia and UAE request to join war in Yemen. Now we have to show the same backbone to China and say NO to weapon sales to Myanmar !

 

[Snoopy]

Based on information that Pakistan-based militant groups are tapping into Rohingya radicalisation, India has told Myanmar that this is a “ticking bomb” that represents a “major security threat” to the “region in general, and India, Bangladesh and Myanmar in particular”.

Delhi conveyed this message to Myanmar’s new national security adviser, U Thuang Tun, who was on his maiden visit to India last week, top official sources have told Hindustan Times. The NSA met his counterpart, NSA Ajit Doval, as well as officials of ministry of external affairs and defence ministries.

Even as the western countries, the international human rights community, and Islamic countries have made the treatment of Rohingyas a central concern in their engagement with the Myanmarese regime, India has preferred to be restrained and discreet, given the sensitivities of both the military and Aung San Suu Kyi on the issue.

With a new bout of violence in Myanmar’s Rakhine state from last year, the issue has assumed a new salience.


A top official told HT that India has adequate intelligence to confirm the role of Lashkar-e-Taiba, operating first through its “so-called charitable avatar and then through frontmen” in the Rakhine state.

The estimated 1 million Rohingya face discrimination in Myanmar. Most do not have citizenship and are regarded as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. Communal violence in 2012 forced many of them to flee their homes, and more than 100,000 still live in refugee camps.

“We told the NSA that this issue is a major threat. Rohingya radicals are being abetted by Lashkar. This will have consequences for the region. And we have advised them to find a political solution to the issue soon”. India believes that while security measures are necessary, only a crackdown would be “counter-productive”.

Back in 2012-13, India had first suspected active Lashkar involvement based on inputs from the Bangladesh government - and there was suspicion that the group had a role behind blasts in Bodh Gaya. Hafiz Saeed had publicly accused India of aiding the Myanmar regime in its persecution of Rohingyas.

A career diplomat who made India his first port of call, MEA had said in a statement that the NSA U Thuang Tun was ‘expected to advise the Myanmar government on internal and external threats by assessing situations from a strategic point of view’, and that India looked forward to a productive association with him.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...aunt-region/story-m7b2QFQn13uzOfX4nK9PWI.html

By making such false accusations india has nothing to gain but much more to lose; Myanmar's trust - there is already a breach of trust between Myanmar and India due to so-called sir g Kal strikes and border disputes.
Myanmar is not aloof of the Indians hatching plots against Pakistan.
Keep trying

 

[Bhupendra Singh_Cyan]

If Kashmir legally belongs to India on the grounds of Instrument of accession then Junagadh legally belongs to Pakistan on the grounds of Instrumentssion. Go read up on it before getting emotional here.

I ain't getting emotional.
Pakistan got enough for their betrayal with the sub continent in 1947.
How much land you guys want for 200 million folks? I love Pakistan but not this hatred bro.
We should stop shouldn't we?

 

[Cookie Monster]

I ain't getting emotional.
Pakistan got enough for their betrayal with the sub continent in 1947.
How much land you guys want for 200 million folks? I love Pakistan but not this hatred bro.
We should stop shouldn't we?

Yes we should stop with the hatred...and that happens by conflict resolution. Work towards and solve problems among the two countries and peace can be achieved.

As for the betrayal...ppl demanded their land for their rules. It's called a freedom struggle, it happens the world over. If u r against freedom struggles then be fair all across the board and be against all freedom struggles including the Indian freedom struggle. Why the selective view that Indian freedom struggle was good and Pakistan's was bad? Bcuz of self interest? Well if self interest wins then there can be no peace among any two countries on earth bcuz sooner or later they will find themselves at odds with each other.

Also I see that u were quick to make "legal claims" on Kashmir for India based on the instrument of accession but didn't respond to my query of Pakistan's "legal claim" of Junagadh by that same reasoning. R u gonna be selective there too based on ur self interest?

 

[wiseone2]

Well at least that's one Indian admitting it. Most Indians here say that India is not obsessed with Pakistan at all and that it has bigger goals blah blah blah.

It's good to know that CPEC and JF17 deal pains India. They will both go through as planned. Whatever Randi rona might occur it wouldnt change a thing.

the jf-17 deal would not bother India. mynamar is not going to listen to pakistan because of jf-17 deal. if pakistan makes a big fuss on the rohaniyas the jf-17 deal will be cancelled in a heartbeat

 

[Cookie Monster]

the jf-17 deal would not bother India. mynamar is not going to listen to pakistan because of jf-17 deal. if pakistan makes a big fuss on the rohaniyas the jf-17 deal will be cancelled in a heartbeat

Yes I'm aware that Myanmar wouldn't have to listen to us bcuz of JF17 deal. I didn't say that in my comment that u r quoting. This was in reply to another member who was bothered with CPEC and JF17 deal with Myanmar.

 

[khansaheeb]

AS expected.....Pakistan is going to Sell JF17 Fighters to Myannmer and here comes the Indians as usual with their dirty minds and fake propaganda.................to sabotage the deal...........

Yep, what the Indians are really saying is if you buy the JF17s then we will unleash our RAW state terrorists on you.

 

[Zabaniyah]

India has preferred to be restrained and discreet, given the sensitivities of both the military and Aung San Suu Kyi on the issue.

With a new bout of violence in Myanmar’s Rakhine state from last year, the issue has assumed a new salience.

“We told the NSA that this issue is a major threat. Rohingya radicals are being abetted by Lashkar. This will have consequences for the region. And we have advised them to find a political solution to the issue soon”. India believes that while security measures are necessary, only a crackdown would be “counter-productive”.

Back in 2012-13, India had first suspected active Lashkar involvement based on inputs from the Bangladesh government - and there was suspicion that the group had a role behind blasts in Bodh Gaya. Hafiz Saeed had publicly accused India of aiding the Myanmar regime in its persecution of Rohingyas.

Hmm...unusual timing to make such a call even given the sensitive nature. But nonetheless, quite significant!

Yes, there is a possible issue of radicalization among the Rohingyas. It is suspected that some unknown entities have infiltrated them. Last year, a police station was attacked in the state of Rakhine which left 9 officers dead - Allegedly by Rohingyas. Their objective was the armory. I doubt they found the missing weapons during the recent crackdown.

It would be unusual that a small Pakistan-based militant group would be able to infiltrate them. Pakistan do not share borders with Burma. I do not think LeT have the resources to get there either.

If something is behind fueling the radicalization, it should be something more, or neighboring. Perhaps coming from militants based in Bangladesh or India. If something more, we will be in very deep trouble.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Hmm...unusual timing to make such a call even given the sensitive nature. But nonetheless, quite significant!

Yes, there is a possible issue of radicalization among the Rohingyas. It is suspected that some unknown entities have infiltrated them. Last year, a police station was attacked in the state of Rakhine which left 9 officers dead - Allegedly by Rohingyas. Their objective was the armory. I doubt they found the missing weapons during the recent crackdown.

It would be unusual that a small Pakistan-based militant group would be able to infiltrate them. Pakistan do not share borders with Burma. I do not think LeT have the resources to get there either.

If something is behind fueling the radicalization, it should be something more, or neighboring. Perhaps coming from militants based in Bangladesh or India. If something more, we will be in very deep trouble.

Myanmar has been oppressing Rohingya Muslims for some time now and it's only a matter of time before they rise up and take arms to defend themselves or take revenge for the injustices. It's in human nature. Using this opportunity India is just trying to malign Pakistan and muddy the relations between Pak and Myanmar.

 

[wiseone2]

Yes I'm aware that Myanmar wouldn't have to listen to us bcuz of JF17 deal. I didn't say that in my comment that u r quoting. This was in reply to another member who was bothered with CPEC and JF17 deal with Myanmar.

if you read some of the jf-17 threads some Pakistani members think they can boost Pakistan's influence by selling JF-17s around the world

 

[Cookie Monster]

if you read some of the jf-17 threads some Pakistani members think they can boost Pakistan's influence by selling JF-17s around the world

I think most of them mean it as in the long term(at least that's how I mean it). Kinda like how u see US using its military equipment as a leverage on the countries that rely on it heavily. It'll take a long time for Pak to get there. Developing indigenous capabilities and securing export orders for them is the first step in that long journey.

 

[wiseone2]

I think most of them mean it as in the long term(at least that's how I mean it). Kinda like how u see US using its military equipment as a leverage on the countries that rely on it heavily. It'll take a long time for Pak to get there. Developing indigenous capabilities and securing export orders for them is the first step in that long journey.

fair enough

 

[Zabaniyah]

Myanmar has been oppressing Rohingya Muslims for some time now and it's only a matter of time before they rise up and take arms to defend themselves or take revenge for the injustices. It's in human nature. Using this opportunity India is just trying to malign Pakistan and muddy the relations between Pak and Myanmar.

Any country supplying powerful weaponry to another country cannot have relations that'd be regarded as 'muddy'. If it is so however, then the supplier is doing something very wrong.