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India still dominates Pak's strategic threat perception: US April 06, 2011

Even if India has no intent to invade Pakistan, it is natural for Pakistan to feel that India is a threat.

This is more so, since there are many issues, rightly or wrongly, that Pakistan feels have not been addressed by India.

Therefore, India remains a threat in the Pakistani perspective.
 
na, i don't give a crap about grammar as long as i can understand the message. but i do get kinda pissed when people just type unintelligible crap.

oh you are forever invited for the intelligible pissing off competetion... I promise i will deliver more than your expectations
 
na, i don't give a crap about grammar as long as i can understand the message. but i do get kinda pissed when people just type unintelligible crap.
It may be me... but I could understand very well what she wrote. My mantra... read once... read twice... read thrice... if no understand ... move on :cheers: :lol:
 
No its not the same....Pakistan attacked us all the time. It was never our fault that their leaders get so much on power that they will believe that they can overthrow India. Their were opinion during those wars that they will have next days lunch in Delhi but instead Indian forces reached Karachi. So its just their Ruling party who is creating this fear that India will attack among their citizen while the facts point to something else.

As far as China is concerned China has also attacked us in the past so its not some unbiased fear, these are precautions based on China's history and their army's recent aggressive approach along the border in India. There government talks something else and there army on the border talks something else. The situation is just like Pakistan, only difference is power at the center is still with the communist party and China is way to powerful.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

So thats what you bhartis read in your fairy tale books,han? :lol:

Oh,by the way which leader dreamed of 'overthrowing India' and 'having lunch in Delhi'??? I thought we fought for kashmir :azn:

Dude ,COME ON ! You are Brigadier in this forum and still you talk like a typical brainwashed bharti fan boy?

Facepalm !
 
Whose talking about an invasion? What we fear is that India might decide to teach Pakistan a lesson and capture strategic locations inside Pakistan.
And have you ever thought that if India really decides to do that, what will be the reason ?? Just export something else other than terrorism for once.....

t is simply an excuse from the Indian side that their weapons are aimed at China, they are and have always been aimed at Pakistan. Just look at the positioning of the Indian military, the cream assets of their military are deployed on their Western borders against Pakistan.
Well you are right on that but things are now changing especially since when India started to talk about China. We have started placing SAMS, MBTS and Su30 on China border because on the other side its like they are getting ready for war....

The Indians are especially interested in Gilgit-Baltistan because it borders Afghanistan. India badly wants a border with Afghanistan.
I know its important to you guys and even for China but that doesn't mean that we wanted it or we will capture it. This will lead to the two side war about which our senior military establishment is worried about.

They want it very badly.
Who is telling you guys this...??/ what we are trying is to stop China from using this route as its a great security risk for India. Just look now Chinese army is in ...what you expect India to do ?? But still if you think that we want this and we will try to capture this, then you guys are misguided.
 
There are billions of threads on this issue, but I'll quote from your own media, just for the sake of expediency.

No Chinese troops in Gilgit-Baltistan region: Pakistan - Hindustan Times

Thanks for the "extra" effort in finding an "Indian" source. I am convinced with your effort, but still not convinced with the intentions of Chinese presence in GB. If it were in BD, our bangla tigers would be jumping for joy. :lol:

You need a fast transit to/from Gwadar and thats why you are helping build the Karakoram highway. Which in case of a war would be used for troop movement.
 
Pakistan's efforts to launch a comprehensive fight against terrorism are greatly hampered by its perceived threat perception against India [ Images ], United States President Barack Obama [ Images ] has said in a new report to Congress.

"As India continues to dominate their strategic threat perception, large elements of Pakistan's military remain committed to maintaining a ratio of Pakistani to Indian forces along the eastern border," Obama said in the third-quarterly report to the Congress on Afghanistan and Pakistan sent on Tuesday.

"This deprives the Pakistani counter-insurgency fight of sufficient forces to achieve its 'clear' objectives and support the 'hold' efforts and causing available army forces to be bogged down with 'hold' activities because there are insufficient trained civilian law enforcement personnel to assume that responsibility," Obama said in his 38-page classified version of the report.

Due to flood in Pakistan last year, the offensive military operations Pakistan had envisioned for Khaibar Pakhtoonwah and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas in the second half of 2010 were overtaken by events, he said.

"Militants were impacted by the floods as well, so we did not observe significant offensive actions on their side, but as Pakistani forces ceased offensive operations, extremists extended their control to areas without sufficient Pakistani central government-provided security and governance," he wrote.

Between October 1 and December 31, 2010, Obama said Pakistani security forces remained largely static, generally focusing on maintaining the security of previously cleared areas in the FATA and KP and continuing to support flood relief operations. There were small but notable security operations in November and December in Orakzai Agency and Dir District, but no major operations.

National attention during the reporting period focused on the need for continued flood relief and the start of early recovery efforts, he said.

"The military served as a force of stability during the monsoons, ensuring that Pakistani and international emergency resources were available for rescue and relief operations. The Pakistan Army [ Images ], Air Force, and Navy committed large numbers of personnel and resources to the flood relief operations throughout October and November," he said.

The civilian government's response suffered from a lack of coordination and reflected broader shortcomings in the government's ability to execute the civilian "hold" and "build" phases of COIN. The last quarter of 2010 saw no progress on effectively executing the COIN cycle in KP and the FATA.

That might be true. However, there are 700,000 Indian troops at the border close to the Kashmir Valley as compared to 150,000 Pakistani troops. So I would say India is still obsessing about Pakistan in terms of strategic threat perception.
 
I know its important to you guys and even for China but that doesn't mean that we wanted it or we will capture it.

Then stop claiming Gilgit Baltistan. :P

Also, I can't speak for our Pakistani friends, but I'm not very worried about an Indian invasion. China+Pakistan (and the USA who are supporting Pakistan)... are more than enough to hold off any attempt to capture Gilgit Baltistan.

We have started placing SAMS, MBTS and Su30 on China border because on the other side its like they are getting ready for war....

We're building infrastructure in Tibet.

And if India wants to build up their forces on their Eastern border, that is none of my business.
 
Thanks for the "extra" effort in finding an "Indian" source. I am convinced with your effort, but still not convinced with the intentions of Chinese presence in GB. If it were in BD, our bangla tigers would be jumping for joy. :lol:

You need a fast transit to/from Gwadar and thats why you are helping build the Karakoram highway. Which in case of a war would be used for troop movement.

You're not convinced regarding the intentions of Chinese presence in Giglit Baltistan, that's fine. I don't intend to change your mind, nor do I believe I could change your mind even if I wanted to.

As you said, China needs Gwadar. That about sums it up.

P.S. Who are the Bangla tigers?
 
Then stop claiming Gilgit Baltistan. :P

Also, I can't speak for our Pakistani friends, but I'm not very worried about an Indian invasion. China+Pakistan (and the USA who are supporting Pakistan)... are more than enough to hold off any attempt to capture Gilgit Baltistan.



We're building infrastructure.

And if India wants to build up their forces on the Eastern border, it doesn't bother me at all.

Good point.

India should stop claiming the Northern Areas.

China has stopped claiming Taiwan?

US is with Pakistan?

Read what Obama's Administration has to say and also what the US Congress has opined?

Of course, China is building infrastructure!

I wonder who is telling bedtime stories.
 
India by far is the greatest threat to Pakistan's national security and existence, more so than the US. The bharatis can stick their "amman khi asha" in their you know what.
 
Thanks for the "extra" effort in finding an "Indian" source. I am convinced with your effort, but still not convinced with the intentions of Chinese presence in GB. If it were in BD, our bangla tigers would be jumping for joy. :lol:

You need a fast transit to/from Gwadar and thats why you are helping build the Karakoram highway. Which in case of a war would be used for troop movement.

I think the Indian media hypes the theory of a prospective Pakistan-China vs India war way too much through sensationalist reports. I don't think any such thing will happen. The Karakoram Highway in the Northern Areas & Gwadar will serve economic development purposes, not military purposes.
 
I think the Indian media hypes the theory of a prospective Pakistan-China vs India war way too much with sensationalist news. I don't think any such thing will happen. The Karakoram Highway in the Northern Areas & Gwadar will serve economic development purposes, not military purposes.

It keeps us Indians on our toes just to avoid another Kargil type incursion into our sovereign territory.
 

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