India should not ‘stir up’ border trouble, says PLA General ahead of Antony

[INDIC]

India cannot make its carriers because it cannot make it own components, that's why they beg Russia to hurry up and make it and give it to them. Russia holds all the cards.

Yeah, China don't do it to get technologies from Russia..

 

[gslv mk3]

India cannot make its carriers because it cannot make it own components, that's why they beg Russia to hurry up and make it and give it to them. Russia holds all the cards.

 

[senkakudefender]

Funny Indians deluding themselves about an imaginary victory

India can't even make basic household sanitation. Nevermind an aircraft carrier. Just a primitive society with shupa-powa delusions

Primitive Stone age country makes this :

SHIVALIK CLASS FRIGATE

ype: Guided-missile frigate
Displacement: 6,200 tonnes (6,100 long tons; 6,800 short tons) full load[3]
Length: 142.5 m (468 ft)[4]
Beam: 16.9 m (55 ft)
Draught: 4.5 m (15 ft)
Installed power: 2 × Pielstick 16 PA6 STC Diesel engines
15,200 shp (11,300 kW)
2 × GE LM2500+
33,600 shp (25,100 kW)
Propulsion: boost turbines in CODOG configuration.
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h; 37 mph)[5]
22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph) (diesel engines)
Complement: 257 (35 officers)[2]
Sensors and
processing systems: 1 × MR-760 Fregat M2EM 3-D radar
4 × MR-90 Orekh radar
1 × ELTA EL/M 2238 STAR
2 × ELTA EL/M 2221 STGR
1 × BEL APARNA
HUMSA (hull-mounted sonar array)
ATAS/Thales Sintra towed array systems
Electronic warfare
& decoys: BEL Ajanta electronic warfare suite
Armament:
1 × 3.0-inch Otobreda, naval gun
8 × VLS launched Klub, anti-ship cruise missiles
or
8 × VLS launched BrahMos, anti-ship cruise missiles
2 × 2 DTA-53-956 torpedo launchers
2 × RBU-6000 (RPK-8) rocket launchers
Shtil-1 missile system, with 24 short to medium range (30 km (19 mi)) missiles
Barak SAM-launcher CIWS
2 × AK-630 CIWS
Aircraft carried: 2 × HAL Dhruv or Sea King Mk. 42B helicopters.(For Shivalik and Sahyadri
2 × Kamov Ka-31 helicopters.

CHICOM SUPER POWER ( BETTER THAN USA) MAKES THIS :

Frigate
Displacement: 4,053 tonnes (full)(CCTV report), 3,600 tonnes (standard)
Length: 134.1 m (440 ft)(CCTV report)
Beam: 16 m (52 ft) (CCTV report)
Propulsion: CODAD, 4 x Shaanxi 16 PA6 STC diesels, 5700 kW (7600+ hp @ 1084 rpm) each
Speed: 27 kn estimated
Range: 8025 nautical miles estimated
Complement: 165
Sensors and
processing systems:
Type 382 Radar (Upgraded from Type 381 Radar "Sea Eagle S/C") 3D air/surface search radar
Type 344 Radar (Mineral-ME Band Stand) OTH target acquisition and SSM fire control radar
4 x Type 345 Radar(MR-90 Front Dome) SAM fire control radars
MR-36A surface search radar, I-band
Type 347G 76 mm gun fire control radar
2 x Racal RM-1290 navigation radars, I-band
MGK-335 medium frequency active/passive sonar system
ZKJ-4B/6 (developed from Thomson-CSF TAVITAC) combat data system
HN-900 Data link (Chinese equivalent of Link 11A/B, to be upgraded)
SNTI-240 SATCOM
Electronic warfare
& decoys: Type 922-1 radar warning receiver
HZ-100 ECM & ELINT system
Armament: 1 x HQ-16 32-cell VLS SAM launcher and anti submarine rocket launcher
2 x 4 C-803 anti-ship / land attack cruise missiles
1 x PJ26 76 mm dual purpose gun
2 x Type 730 7-barrel 30 mm CIWS guns
2 x 3 324mm YU-7 ASW torpedoes
2 x 6 Type 87 240mm anti-submarine rocket launcher (36 rockets carried)
2 x Type 726-4 18-tube decoy rocket launchers
Aircraft carried: 1 Kamov Ka-28 'Helix' or Harbin Z-9C
Aviation facilities: hangar

HONGWAD claear you ears with HCL. Maybe it will get your brain working again.

 

[senkakudefender]

Funny Indians deluding themselves about an imaginary victory

India can't even make basic household sanitation. Nevermind an aircraft carrier. Just a primitive society with shupa-powa delusions

400 CHICOM scum died after 2 years of training in 1967. Who knows HongWu maybe I will have the pleasure to frag you this time around.

 

[itachiii]

so China is not building our carriers?you really need to be better informed and China is the world's top shipbuilder boasting some of the biggest shipyards,we have a whole industry served as a strong base for our military,what do you have?and it was you who said this time things would be different and everyone can tell what you meant by saying that.

look i can't say we will win the war ( if war happens b/w the 2 countries ) bt definetely we wont lose the war . we will inflict u with tht same amount of damage that u cause us and probably even more if we play our cards in a rt way.... and if u think u can have an other 1962 , then bring it on kid.....

 

[American spying]

Primitive Stone age country makes this :

SHIVALIK CLASS FRIGATE

ype: Guided-missile frigate
Displacement: 6,200 tonnes (6,100 long tons; 6,800 short tons) full load[3]
Length: 142.5 m (468 ft)[4]
Beam: 16.9 m (55 ft)
Draught: 4.5 m (15 ft)
Installed power: 2 × Pielstick 16 PA6 STC Diesel engines
15,200 shp (11,300 kW)
2 × GE LM2500+
33,600 shp (25,100 kW)
Propulsion: boost turbines in CODOG configuration.
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h; 37 mph)[5]
22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph) (diesel engines)
Complement: 257 (35 officers)[2]
Sensors and
processing systems: 1 × MR-760 Fregat M2EM 3-D radar
4 × MR-90 Orekh radar
1 × ELTA EL/M 2238 STAR
2 × ELTA EL/M 2221 STGR
1 × BEL APARNA
HUMSA (hull-mounted sonar array)
ATAS/Thales Sintra towed array systems
Electronic warfare
& decoys: BEL Ajanta electronic warfare suite
Armament:
1 × 3.0-inch Otobreda, naval gun
8 × VLS launched Klub, anti-ship cruise missiles
or
8 × VLS launched BrahMos, anti-ship cruise missiles
2 × 2 DTA-53-956 torpedo launchers
2 × RBU-6000 (RPK-8) rocket launchers
Shtil-1 missile system, with 24 short to medium range (30 km (19 mi)) missiles
Barak SAM-launcher CIWS
2 × AK-630 CIWS
Aircraft carried: 2 × HAL Dhruv or Sea King Mk. 42B helicopters.(For Shivalik and Sahyadri
2 × Kamov Ka-31 helicopters.

CHICOM SUPER POWER ( BETTER THAN USA) MAKES THIS :

Frigate
Displacement: 4,053 tonnes (full)(CCTV report), 3,600 tonnes (standard)
Length: 134.1 m (440 ft)(CCTV report)
Beam: 16 m (52 ft) (CCTV report)
Propulsion: CODAD, 4 x Shaanxi 16 PA6 STC diesels, 5700 kW (7600+ hp @ 1084 rpm) each
Speed: 27 kn estimated
Range: 8025 nautical miles estimated
Complement: 165
Sensors and
processing systems:
Type 382 Radar (Upgraded from Type 381 Radar "Sea Eagle S/C") 3D air/surface search radar
Type 344 Radar (Mineral-ME Band Stand) OTH target acquisition and SSM fire control radar
4 x Type 345 Radar(MR-90 Front Dome) SAM fire control radars
MR-36A surface search radar, I-band
Type 347G 76 mm gun fire control radar
2 x Racal RM-1290 navigation radars, I-band
MGK-335 medium frequency active/passive sonar system
ZKJ-4B/6 (developed from Thomson-CSF TAVITAC) combat data system
HN-900 Data link (Chinese equivalent of Link 11A/B, to be upgraded)
SNTI-240 SATCOM
Electronic warfare
& decoys: Type 922-1 radar warning receiver
HZ-100 ECM & ELINT system
Armament: 1 x HQ-16 32-cell VLS SAM launcher and anti submarine rocket launcher
2 x 4 C-803 anti-ship / land attack cruise missiles
1 x PJ26 76 mm dual purpose gun
2 x Type 730 7-barrel 30 mm CIWS guns
2 x 3 324mm YU-7 ASW torpedoes
2 x 6 Type 87 240mm anti-submarine rocket launcher (36 rockets carried)
2 x Type 726-4 18-tube decoy rocket launchers
Aircraft carried: 1 Kamov Ka-28 'Helix' or Harbin Z-9C
Aviation facilities: hangar

HONGWAD claear you ears with HCL. Maybe it will get your brain working again.

In your frigate, the engine, sensors & processing systems and armaments are ALL foreign. There is absolutely nothing indigenous about Indian weapons. Just components imported from Russia, Israel and France and assembled and given an Indian paint job and goes into a trophy cabinet. I doubt the Indian navy have the professionalism to operate such advanced vessels. You need discipline and a high degree of professionalism that India currently lacks. No point having these weapons if you don't even know how to use them. Just look at the amount of crashes in the Indian Airforce. That right there proves India still lacks the professionalism to operate all the weapons India imports.

 

[gslv mk3]

In your frigate, the engine, sensors & processing systems and armaments are ALL foreign. There is absolutely nothing indigenous about Indian weapons. Just components imported from Russia, Israel and France and assembled and given an Indian paint job and goes into a trophy cabinet. I doubt the Indian navy have the professionalism to operate such advanced vessels. You need discipline and a high degree of professionalism that India currently lacks. No point having these weapons if you don't even know how to use them. Just look at the amount of crashes in the Indian Airforce. That right there proves India still lacks the professionalism to operate all the weapons India imports.

Again got any proof-Brahmos, BEL APARNA,HUMSA ,Ajanta are Indian in origin.About professionalism,we have been operating an Aircraft carrier for 50 years

About propulsion,the chinese frigate is powered by a dieel engine,made using imported the 16 PA6V-280 STC diesel technology whie we have GE gas turbines

 

[American spying]

look i can't say we will win the war ( if war happens b/w the 2 countries ) bt definetely we wont lose the war . we will inflict u with tht same amount of damage that u cause us and probably even more if we play our cards in a rt way.... and if u think u can have an other 1962 , then bring it on kid.....

India had a chance to prove that India was stronger than 1962 just in April of this year, but you acted like total cowards when our soldiers had penetrated deep into Indian territory. India got exposed for a coward.

Unless you can fight us when we invade you, India deserves no respect and will only be looked down upon as a mere punching bag.

Again got any proof-Brahmos, BEL APARNA,HUMSA ,Ajanta are Indian in origin.About professionalism,we have been operating an Aircraft carrier for 50 years

None of those are Indian in origin. What a laughable statement.

India had an aircraft carrier for 50 years, doesn't mean you know how to operate one with the professionalism that it needs. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[gslv mk3]

None of those are Indian in origin. What a laughable statement.

India had an aircraft carrier for 50 years, doesn't mean you know how to operate one with the professionalism that it needs. Sorry to burst your bubble.

India had a chance to prove that India was stronger than 1962 just in April of this year, but you acted like total cowards when our soldiers had penetrated deep into Indian territory. India got exposed for a coward.Unless you can fight us when we invade you, India deserves no respect and will only be looked down upon as a mere punching bag

Chinese remember what happened in 1962,but forgot what happened in 1967??Selective Amnesia

 

[itachiii]

India had a chance to prove that India was stronger than 1962 just in April of this year, but you acted like total cowards when our soldiers had penetrated deep into Indian territory. India got exposed for a coward.

Unless you can fight us when we invade you, India deserves no respect and will only be looked down upon as a mere punching bag.

our army was all in favour of intruding the chinese teritory bt it was our govt wch didn't have guts.... wait for 12 more months things will start changing with new govt. under modi....

 

[American spying]

Chinese remember what happened in 1962,but forgot what happened in 1967??Selective Amnesia

1962, 1967, 1987 and 2013 were all Chinese victories.

our army was all in favour of intruding the chinese teritory bt it was our govt wch didn't have guts.... wait for 12 more months things will start changing with new govt. under modi....

Your army was hiding behind your government because it didn't want another slapping like 1962. Modi is nobody in front of us, he is just another scared little boy.

 

[senkakudefender]

1962, 1967, 1987 and 2013 were all Chinese victories.



Your army was hiding behind your government because it didn't want another slapping like 1962. Modi is nobody in front of us, he is just another scared little boy.

Gooks are getting worked out. Hows the weather down there 5 inch man.


1967

The pass is completely devoid of cover and the jawans of 70 Field Company and 18 Rajput were caught in the open and suffered heavy casualties which included Col Rai Singh who was wounded. He was awarded MVC later. Two brave officers &#8211; Capt Dagar of 2 Grenadiers and Major Harbhajan Singh of 18 Rajput rallied a few troops and tried to assault the Chinese MMG but both died a heroic death. They were posthumously awarded Vir Chakra and MVC respectively. 2 Grenadier opened small arms fire on North shoulder but it was not very effective. Within the first ten minutes, there were nearly seventy dead and scores wounded lying in the open on the pass. Within half an hour, Chinese artillery opened up on the pass as well as in the depth areas but it was mostly prophylactic fire due to lack of observation and failed to do much damage. Meanwhile we as artillery observation post officers asked for artillery fire, permission for which came a little later. Because of excellent domination and observation from Sebu La and Camel&#8217;s back, artillery fire was most effective and most of the Chinese bunkers on North shoulder and in depth were completely destroyed and Chinese suffered very heavy casualties which by their own estimates were over 400. The artillery duel thereafter carried on day and night. For the next three days, the Chinese were taught a lesson. On 14 September, Chinese threatened use of Air Force if shelling did not stop. By then the lesson had been driven home and an uneasy ceasefire came about. The Chinese, true to form, had pulled over dead bodies to their side of the perceived border at night and accused us of violating the border <- PU$$Y . Dead bodies were exchanged on 15 September at which time: Sam Manekshaw, Aurora and Sagat were present on the Pass.


1987

At the end of 1986, India granted statehood to Arunachal Pradesh, which is an area claimed by China but administered by India. The Chinese government proceeded to protest. But the military movements in Tawang, taken in conjunction with this political action were seen as a provocation by the Chinese. In early 1987 Beijing's tone became similar to that of 1962, and with the Indian Army refusing to stand down, Western diplomats predicted war.

The Indian response to the Chinese buildup was Operation Falcon and involved movements across the Sino-Indian border. Mi-26 heavy lift helicopters were used to deploy Infantry fighting vehicles and tanks into North Sikkim in the east and Demchok in the west. These deployments were viewed as particularly threatening by the PLA because they seemed to indicate that India had moved from a strategy of defence in its own territory to that of a larger offensive involving all of Arunachal Pradesh. <- PU$$Y

The result was a thaw. Indian Foreign Minister N.D. Tiwari arrived in Beijing in May 1987 en route to Pyongyang, North Korea. He carried with him messages from Indian leaders that there was no intention on New Delhi's part to aggravate the situation. The first formal flag meeting to discuss &#8220; the freezing of the situation&#8221; since 1962, was held on the fifth of August 1987 at Bum La in the aftermath of the Wangdung affair. Both sides decided to take up talks with renewed urgency and the following year, Rajiv Gandhi visited Beijing, returning Zhou Enlai's '60s visit.


2013

As Prime Minister Manmohan Singh undertook a visit to Tokyo amid reports of defence deals between the two sides, the Chinese communist party's mouthpiece, the People's Daily, lashed out at Japanese politicians, terming them as "petty burglars" on China-related issues <- PU$$y .

China is locked in a maritime dispute with Japan in the resource-rich East China Sea.

"Before Premier Li Keqiang's visit, the China-India border standoff was hyped up by international media. The divergence and contradictions between the two countries were also exaggerated as if the Sino-Indian ties had been strained suddenly," said an article titled 'Sino-Indian diplomatic miracle embarrasses Japanese politicians'.

1962, 1967, 1987 and 2013 were all Chinese victories.



Your army was hiding behind your government because it didn't want another slapping like 1962. Modi is nobody in front of us, he is just another scared little boy.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Indian-patrols-to-move-closer-to-China-border/Article1-1066957.aspx

With improvement in infrastructure, India is getting ready to be more assertive along its disputed border with China.

Top government sources have told HT that Indian forces may soon patrol deeper into the disputed territory with China, beyond the limits observed before the recent three-week border standoff in Ladakh.

However, they would still not be carrying out surveillance all the way up to India's perceived border because of a self-imposed restriction that has never been made public.

TERI MA KI CHOOT BHOSARIKE!

 

[American spying]

Calling me a 'gook' and a '5 inch man'.

Stay classy Indians.

 

[senkakudefender]

Calling me a 'gook' and a '5 inch man'.

Stay classy Indians.

Look who's talking!

 

[AMCA]

That's why you learned everything wrong in India,China was backstabbed by India and India's so called "forward policy'.When China still believed that India was a brotherly friend,Nehur in the name of Forward Policy,sent troops south of Macmahon Line and threw his support behind Dalai Lama. China at that time was in the middle of the worst famine in her history and had a big falling out with USSR,desperately needed a freind in the world community and was ready to make compromise in the border issues with Indian,but see what India did to China,a backstabbing knave.

Eh come on, I do get a picture of how the schools in china run, fueling itself on false image. China didn’t have any claim on Aksai Chin or Arunachal Pradesh till 1959. Only after Dalai lama fled to India and took shelter in India, Chinese started preparing for war and making claims on Indian territories. Then went to war with India in 1962 when US and Russia were stuck in Cuban Missile Crises and India had little help from anybody. Nehru was pretty naive to believe the commitments of Chinese leaders and Chinese occupied Aksai Chin.

when France honored Dalia Lama, French cars started failing emission test in China and China blocked the import of cars from France.