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I think instead of upgrading mirages, we can go for more su-30s
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dude, this deal is being laughed by all Chinese members on Chinese military forums. this is not the case for the C-17 deal. we believe you guys got fooled by yanks, the C-17 is overpriced, but we still believe it gives you something unprecedented in your military history and thus probably worth the $.
but for the $48 million each upgrade deal, dude, we are questioning whether this is the biggest corruption case in your military history -- how much kick back for each?
Mirage 2000 is a dead fighter, only loser nations use it (yes, france is a loser). paying $48 million for upgrading one is beyond imagination.
dude, let's just face it: China has much much much more money, if you want to play this "we pay you more, cut your tie with them" game, you are not qualified yet.
simple fact: our economy is 4 times as big as yours, our foreign reserve is about 3 trillion USD.
I can't help wondering if this Indian rapid spending to gain rough parity with China's ramping up of defence spending is a good idea.
China's expansion is focused toward several concrete goals, such as winning a confrontation over the Taiwan straits, maintaining the balance of power on the Korean peninsular, control of the China seas south and east, and working towards blue water power projection to protect its commerce towards Malacca straits and beyond.
Why is everyone criticising the huge cost?- yes $1-3 million per MICA is a lot of money (infect it is mind-boggling when you actually think about it!) but from a business sense it isn't that foolish- given the average cost of modern 4th gen fighters (sorry PAF F-7 don't count) is in the high TENS of millions (F-16=$25 mill+, MKI= $40-50 mill+, EFT=~100 mill) and given these aren't going to just be fired off when ever but surely only in real cases in anger against an opponent so if you paying the extra to make sure you hit the target first time with one shot taking down TENS of millions it adds up right?
But your views contradict the now frequent bluster from your military establishment including your head of defense who cited China as India's number one threat.
India has always enjoyed conventional and numerical superiority over Pakistan. This has failed to deter Pakistan, as a matter of fact greater asymmetry has encouraged Pakistan to become even more reckless and adopt increasingly unconventional means to redress the balance. So in my view the answer is a big 'NO' finding a mutually acceptable solution to Kashmir and lasting peace with Pakistan is the only viable solution.
The french are not milking you guys.. they are carving you up with this deal..
Moi Moi expensivo..
Now that the deal has inflated to a $2.4 billion deal from $2.1 billion, I think the cost of MICA might be even more, somewhere around $2 million per missile. That's outrageously expensive.
This is also now going to CCS for approval. Another big contract, which was being progressed simultaneously, for around 450 MICA (interception and aerial combat missiles) systems to arm the upgraded Mirages is also in the final stages now," said a source.
European(UK,Germany,Italy,Spain)---->Nothing big
dude, this deal is being laughed by all Chinese members on Chinese military forums. this is not the case for the C-17 deal. we believe you guys got fooled by yanks, the C-17 is overpriced, but we still believe it gives you something unprecedented in your military history and thus probably worth the $.
but for the $48 million each upgrade deal, dude, we are questioning whether this is the biggest corruption case in your military history -- how much kick back for each?
Mirage 2000 is a dead fighter, only loser nations use it (yes, france is a loser). paying $48 million for upgrading one is beyond imagination.
But your views contradict the now frequent bluster from your military establishment including your head of defense who cited China as India's number one threat.
India has always enjoyed conventional and numerical superiority over Pakistan. This has failed to deter Pakistan, as a matter of fact greater asymmetry has encouraged Pakistan to become even more reckless and adopt increasingly unconventional means to redress the balance. So in my view the answer is a big 'NO' finding a mutually acceptable solution to Kashmir and lasting peace with Pakistan is the only viable solution.