India set to ink defence deals worth more than 1 Lakh Cr (USD 15bn) with Russia

[GR!FF!N]

I thought Kashalot and Iribis is done deal..

 

[sankranti]

So you mean that another sub of the size of Arihant (6000 tonnes) is in construction for carrier escort role, or the original Arihant is supposed to do that job?

Indian Navy is building 6 SSN who will be dedicated for that role. The power plant will be the same as the one for Arihant. So I am fairly certain their tonnage will be similar to Arihant or maybe slightly larger.

That would be 2 SSN for each carrier group. That however will take at least 7-8 years to materialise.

So Akula and Arihant are Stop Gap Arrangement so that In can get the Carrier group into play and gain operational experience.

 

[[Bregs]]

There is no news about the signing of fgfa contract too

 

[sankranti]

There is no news about the signing of fgfa contract too

Unless issues in Su 30 MKI is cleared, how can PAKFA move forward ? Its only now that spare parts issue is being addressed.

 

[raj76]

There is no news about the signing of fgfa contract too

Baki deals modi style Hopefully

 

[sudhir007]

50 Kamov multirole choppers for the Indian Navy.

Which chopper they are talking about no News.

Their was also noise regarding purchase of 2 more Kilos
probably instead of another Akula
Anyone has update on that

Better to order more scorpion Sub. As the news coming that IN interesting to buy 3 more.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Kashalot is rumoured to be 1.2- 1.5Bn 10 year lease. irbis may come in by 2022 timeframe. That's what is being talked in Russian forums. Irbis offer was first not liked as IN showed interest in more modern subs like yasen. No one knows what happened after that but seems indigenous SSN may have some elements of a similar modern design..

arihant as escort for CBG is as good as saying Vikramaditya is a super carrier with capability of 100 F18s done by 1/4th of this numbers by Mig29k

Judging by attempts to make an SSBN into a super speed underwater only one type of SSBN reflects poorly of whatever we have achieved till date.

Anyways we can keep wanking as much as we want, no issues..

 

[nik141993]

Do we have this much money being talked about ? This look like a big eye wash @PARIKRAMA

 

[Dash]

Indian Navy is building 6 SSN who will be dedicated for that role. The power plant will be the same as the one for Arihant. So I am fairly certain their tonnage will be similar to Arihant or maybe slightly larger.

That would be 2 SSN for each carrier group. That however will take at least 7-8 years to materialise.

So Akula and Arihant are Stop Gap Arrangement so that In can get the Carrier group into play and gain operational experience.

Arihants are not going to escort Cbgs. It seriously compromise their locations. Ssbns are supposed to be on lone in their jobs...right now akula is the only option.

 

[sankranti]

Arihants are not going to escort Cbgs. It seriously compromise their locations. Ssbns are supposed to be on lone in their jobs...right now akula is the only option.

Arihant does not qualify to be an SSBN for now, as of today its an SSGN since only the K15 has been tested from it.

There is NO Alternative to Arihant for INS Vikrant underwater escort. So its pretty clear that for now that will be Arihan's primary role. Besides a Carrier group provides protection to Arihant too without which it will be lurking near our shores. So its a symbiotic relationship.

Akula will be with INS Vikramaditya. It cannot be at two places at the same time.

 

[Dash]

Arihant does not qualify to be an SSBN for now, as of today its an SSGN since only the K15 has been tested from it.

There is NO Alternative to Arihant for INS Vikrant underwater escort. So its pretty clear that for now that will be Arihan's primary role. Besides a Carrier group provides protection to Arihant too without which it will be lurking near our shores. So its a symbiotic relationship.

Akula will be with INS Vikramaditya. It cannot be at two places at the same time.

Dont want to get too detailed with you. but Arihant is an SSBN and not an SSGN. Sagarika is a ballstics missile. and not a cruise missle. As of now its teh third leg of our nuclear triad.

 

[sankranti]

Dont want to get too detailed with you. but Arihant is an SSBN and not an SSGN. Sagarika is a ballstics missile. and not a cruise missle. As of now its teh third leg of our nuclear triad.

K15 is not a pure Ballistic missile. Its an Hybrid missile. K15 It never leave atmosphere and the maximum altitude attained by missile is <50km and has a range of 750 to 1500 like an Cruise missile.

Its function is almost like that of an Cruise missile since it has a gliding warhead which is highly manoeuvrable and has low probability of detection due to its depressed flight path.

It will always be the third leg of our nuclear triad till a better option comes up, however that does not exclude it from carrier operations in the absence of any other suitable submarine to be part of the Carrier group.

Or are you suggesting INS VIkrant will have NO Submarine escort ?


US converted its SSBN into SSGN after cruise missile were invented. We have gone the reverse way since in today's age that was more practical.

 

[Dash]

K15 is not a pure Ballistic missile. Its an Hybrid missile. K15 It never leave atmosphere and the maximum altitude attained by missile is <50km and has a range of 750 to 1500 like an Cruise missile.

Its function is almost like that of an Cruise missile since it has a gliding warhead which is highly manoeuvrable and has low probability of detection due to its depressed flight path.

It will always be the third leg of our nuclear triad till a better option comes up, however that does not exclude it from carrier operations in the absence of any other suitable submarine to be part of the Carrier group.

Or are you suggesting INS VIkrant will have NO Submarine escort ?


US converted its SSBN into SSGN after cruise missile were invented. We have gone the reverse way since in today's age that was more practical.

You are talking about Shourya missile, which is a quasi ballistic missile that never leaves the atmosphere. Sagarika on the contray is a balistic missile. Shourya will eventually make our SSGNs.

 

[$@rJen]

Arihant does not qualify to be an SSBN for now, as of today its an SSGN since only the K15 has been tested from it.

There is NO Alternative to Arihant for INS Vikrant underwater escort. So its pretty clear that for now that will be Arihan's primary role. Besides a Carrier group provides protection to Arihant too without which it will be lurking near our shores. So its a symbiotic relationship.

Akula will be with INS Vikramaditya. It cannot be at two places at the same time.

Arihant class will never escort the AC.. it doesn't qualify.. Using an SSBN to escort the CBG is just more than Crazy. INS Arihant will be still studied for the dev purposes in future and will be purely used as SSBN. K-4 or 5 will be equipped on it in future

 

[AMCA]

Arihant class will never escort the AC.. it doesn't qualify.. Using an SSBN to escort the CBG is just more than Crazy. INS Arihant will be still studied for the dev purposes in future and will be purely used as SSBN. K-4 or 5 will be equipped on it in future

Dont take it offensive bro!! I am asking this purely out of curiosity and to educate myself. Why do you think Arihant should not be a part of a CBG?