India Sends 1st Freight to Afghanistan via Iran Skirting Pakistani Bottlenecks

[$@rJen]

India could supply to US military through chabahar benefitting both India and Iran

iran would never allow that till Mullah rules Iran...

 

[The Accountant]

are you really that dumb ??? Or you are just acting dumb ?

So you are saying with this Chabahar port US will have access to Afghanistan via Iran like, Iran did not had any port earlier or this is first time Iran and Afghanistan are sharing border ???

Iran already had ports alot of them and they already had a working border with Afghanistan ... Chabahar is in east of Iran and hence a short route to India via sea nothing else ... It has no significance to any country other than India whereas even for India it is more important for Iran to transfer Oil on eastern side of Iran ...

As far is Afghanistan is concerned issue was never the availablity of the route but the use of route as souther side of Afghanistan is restless and is in control of Taliban, therefore, risk of trades are high ... THere is no change in that situation so Chabahar is nothing but a hype created by Indian keyboard warriors ...

Another future use could be future military base of India or spying activities on Gawadar .. thats the only use but in war time scenario if Iran allows to use this port then it will be act of war which Iran will not do ...

This is part of larger game.
1American need transit route to afganistan...its through pakistan.
2Pakistan supports people who america wants out...pakistan does not help them.
3 us wants to choke pakistan and wants them to stop ne support to haquannis n others...but directly cant coz this will starve their troops in afganistan.
4 iran us relatiins bad so direct acess dificult.
5 indian provides routes to america indirectly through chabhar.

Benefits to us
1 alternative route....easy to presurrise pakistan.
2 did not have to directly ask route from iran.
3 try to pull iran out of russia n china block via india.

Benefits to iran
1 trade n money.
2 a developing port.
3 indian involvment indirectly provides security to port n trade through it.

Benefits to india
1 acess to afganistan and central asia.
2 encirclment of pakistan.
3 more influence in afganistan.
4 economic warefare with pakistan...first trade is with wheat...balouchistan n kpk have large flour mills which are depended on afgan trade.
5 india can ask us for help against india centric groups in pakistan.
6 may be some naval assest near chabhar.

Benefits to afganistan
1 alternative trade route.
2 american forces will remain there
3 less dependency on pakistan

Benefits to pakistan
1 trying to figure out.

Loss for pakistan
1 economic n trade loss
2reduced influence on afgan
3 iran is nxt door nehbour with bettwr ties with india
4 americans more free to presurrise
5 loss of route to central asia via afganistan
6 uppeehand to india with iran n us n afgan support

 

[Tom M]

We didnt do any thing back in 1971, look what you did to us.
Well, let these things go. We will never reach anywhere this way.

Agreed KEEP WARS ASIDE, but both are different scenarios and different context. Just like you said I could have brought up 1947/48 and 1965 wars, but I won't.

Here I'm talking about 1999 only, why because it was clearly a back-stab, specifically designed and executed to sabotage the peace talks since the leaderships of both the countries seems to be very serious about talks. There are certain elements within Pakistan who doesn't want serious talks to happen. That's why whenever two countries seem serious about talks, something like Kargil or terror attacks in India happen and it will be sabotaged.

Now please don't try to sell me the story of Indian false flag, if we were to sabotage talks, we would rather do a proxy terror attack inside Pakistan not a false flag in India killing our citizens, anyone with an IOTA of logic can understand that.

 

[Sully3]

Disaster for Pakistan.

US dependency over Pakistan will be reduced to zero
Lose influence to Afghan
China and Arabs may use Chahbar route to go to central asia and europe..loss for CPEC

donkey of the day

suggesting that US will choose to use an iranian port over pakistan

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

Did the Pakistan posters on here know that Japan helped India building this port as well? Japan will have access and this means India-USA-Japan-Afghanistan-Iran are going to benefit. This will also open routes into the middle east for Japan bypassing the need to rely on Pakistan.

 

[Adonis]

Sure sure

so US/Israel who are in a pseudo war with Iran will use Chabahar

The Arabs who loath iranians will use Chabahar

China who spent billions on CPEC will use Chabahar

all the while Chahbahar being less developed and not a natural deep sea water port


I will let you into a secret, China is more important then india to Chabahar, a highway/rail connections may even be built to Gwader

America/ Israel will not use Chabahar...US will be contended with Afghanistan getting it's supplied through it...at least now they can pursue their policy which is not dependent on Pakistan.

Talking of Arabs, Syria/Iraq can use it to reach central Asia (evading Turkey).

Most important (potentially), you are missing Russia....Russia will have it's access to warm waters through central Asia. Besides central Asian countries have the access. This route might prove more viable to everyone as no One country controls it, unlike OBOR where China will have all the say.

 

[jupiter2007]

If they will create problem in CPEC we can easily busted this Chahbar type nana muna port who has no relevence and projection in the region except supporting Indians particular because even Iran has no advantage of this port lol.

It will cost India too much money to send it through Chahbar port.

 

[James-bond]

This is part of larger game.
1American need transit route to afganistan...its through pakistan.
2Pakistan supports people who america wants out...pakistan does not help them.
3 us wants to choke pakistan and wants them to stop ne support to haquannis n others...but directly cant coz this will starve their troops in afganistan.
4 iran us relatiins bad so direct acess dificult.
5 indian provides routes to america indirectly through chabhar.

Benefits to us
1 alternative route....easy to presurrise pakistan.
2 did not have to directly ask route from iran.
3 try to pull iran out of russia n china block via india.

Benefits to iran
1 trade n money.
2 a developing port.
3 indian involvment indirectly provides security to port n trade through it.

Benefits to india
1 acess to afganistan and central asia.
2 encirclment of pakistan.
3 more influence in afganistan.
4 economic warefare with pakistan...first trade is with wheat...balouchistan n kpk have large flour mills which are depended on afgan trade.
5 india can ask us for help against india centric groups in pakistan.
6 may be some naval assest near chabhar.

Benefits to afganistan
1 alternative trade route.
2 american forces will remain there
3 less dependency on pakistan

Benefits to pakistan
1 trying to figure out.

Loss for pakistan
1 economic n trade loss
2reduced influence on afgan
3 iran is nxt door nehbour with bettwr ties with india
4 americans more free to presurrise
5 loss of route to central asia via afganistan
6 uppeehand to india with iran n us n afgan support

Everything is perfect add one more point

Loss for pakistan

7 Gwadar importance will be nullified and so cpec

 

[Kyle Sun]

Wow... Did you just compare Construction of roads and Bridges with dev of techs that will include years of R&D ??? Seriously, who am I talking to

It is not about complexity but execution, determination, efficiency.

 

[$@rJen]

It is not about complexity but execution, determination, efficiency.

Of course and in spite of the odds DRDO and HAL are still continuing to dev, do you deny that Chinese aerospace industry never faced hiccups???!! of course still they do but continue with the efforts...

Same with this project, we faced lots of issues from US to Pakistan and Iran, we've come out of it and built it finally, have you heard of other Indian projects in Afghanistan !!?? we did face Taliban attacks which killed many who were involved in the project but we did finish them be it Dam, Road, Hospitals and Schools

 

[dilpakistani]

India will never join OBOR

there is never never when it comes to trade and relationships... India can be taken aboard for sure.

No, once rail line will complete than it will help India to reach Afghanistan and middle East countries. These route will be shorter route for all middle East countries to reach sea. They will prefer to go via Iran instead of Afghanistan than pakistan under OBOR

Its just a matter of time that 2nd Corridor of CPEC will be operational that includes two strategic rail links ... they from Balochistan. In the end Iran route is longer more treacherous and iranian territory stretch is very limited on the route hence most of the cargo have to pass through dangerous unsafe Afghanistan Sourthern provinces where as Pakistan route is relatively much shorter, flat and risk is much shorter ....

 

[RoadRunner401]

alhumdulilah
finally the mighty pious Afghan and Persian muslim brothers will be liberated financially by INDIA

Every country has the right to do what benefits them, no such thing as Muslim brother or Ummah exists anywhere in the world other than in Pakistan

 

[El Sidd]

Every country has the right to do what benefits them, no such thing as Muslim brother or Ummah exists anywhere in the world other than in Pakistan

@django @war&peace here preach

 

[Tom M]

Wheat still didnt reach kabul? Business is all bout quality, price and fast delivery. Where is the consignment right now at chanahar port or in way to chabahr port or in afghanistan? Any track.

Not sure. But one thing is for sure. It will be the final nail in the coffin of already ailing flour mills in KP region.

https://www.dawn.com/news/777710

 

[ssethii]

We are so doomed with this development. Nah, India cannot reduce the significance of Pakistan to its neighbors, which has a long land border and close proximity to Afghanistan's developed areas, with a mere sea-port.