India’s top painter Husain pulled from show over threats

[Rig Vedic]

There is no silk cloth dude. It means she is wearing pearl necklace, I tried to give it a flowery look with grace and all!

There was also icons of Sarswasti only wearing the pearl necklace, like the one posted by Jayron.

Saraswati is traditionally depicted wearing a white garment or Vastra - "Ya Shubhra Vastraavritaa".

In India, the traditional Vastra for women (Saari) absolutely covers the breast.

Just because somebody is wearing a necklace on her breast, it is only the ignorant perverts who would immediately start claiming that the breast is uncovered.

Anybody is free to make any painting or icon. The greatness of India is that everybody is allowed their freedom. That is why this fellow Hussain should, despite his obvious malice and ignorance, only be treated with contempt and pity, and thereafter be ignored and left to ply his trade.

 

[LaBong]

Even conceding your argument here, what is the justification for the painting of Sita Devi, Lakshmi Devi and Durga Devi.

Surely you would not have seen Durga Devi in such a position and that too you are from Bengal where most people worship her.

And please see Bhagat Singh's post on how that old man drew Hitler naked to 'humiliate' him. So he draws Hindu Gods nude to show their purity while at the same time draws Hitler nude to humiliate him ?

Look it's not possible for me to know in which context Hussain painted those. According to him he painted them with love. I haven't myself seen the paintings so I have no opinions about them as well.

However if you felt insulted by him then just ignore him. Or file a lawsuit claiming defamation. Vandalizing and offering bounty on his head is not the way I approve.

 

[JonAsad]

Can you name them directly instead of butting inside and firing omni-directional words ?

Nope i will not--

 

[Rig Vedic]

I have read some glorious remarks from the same indians who are posting here when the holy prophet cartoon fiasco was going on, which goes like, freedom of speech, expression, about tolerance, not to give heed, muslims are aggressive, possessive, insecure bla bla and lot of bla.

Seems like most of the indians here including senior members are pretenders here, when it comes to their religion, they too start crying like little babies, whining and complaining.

I dont know how they justify their view points to even them selves.
Cry Babies Cry.

My dear fellow, we believe in freedom.

As far as Sanatana Dharma is concerned - when you try to spit at the overhead Sun, the spit will only fall on your own face.

I would recommend that you too allow free expression of all views, without making threats to kill those accused of blasphemy and apostasy.

 

[JonAsad]

What are your personal opinions on the matter? Do you agree that Hussain should apologise? Or do you believe that it is OK to portray religious figures in the 'nude'?

Would you mind if someone painted Muhammad in a compromising position?

Thats the exact question you should ask your self, why is that when it is about some one else religious figures, you preach tolerance, and ride or i say drive the freedom of speech band wagon, when it comes to you.. you start acting like kids and find excuses why its alright for us to tolerate and not for you.

 

[LaBong]

Saraswati is traditionally depicted wearing a white garment or Vastra - "Ya Shubhra Vastraavitaa".

In India, the traditional Vastra for women (Saari) absolutely covers the breast.

Just because somebody is wearing a necklace on her breast, it is only the ignorant perverts who would immediately start claiming that the breast is uncovered.

Anybody is free to make any painting or icon. The greatness of India is that everybody is allowed their freedom. That is why this fellow Hussain should, despite his obvious malice and ignorance, only be treated with contempt and pity, and thereafter be ignored and left to ply his trade.

I don't want to go into technicalities but there are multiple depiction of all god and goddess, just because in one of them she was depicted wearing white vastra, does that mean she never wore colored vastra!

Anyway leave it. You have the right to feel offended and file lawsuits. But vandalizing art shows is unlawful.

 

[divya]

Thats the exact question you should ask your self, why is that when it is about some one else religious figures, you preach tolerance, and ride or i say drive the freedom of speech band wagon, when it comes to you.. you start acting like kids and find excuses why its alright for us to tolerate and not for you.

can arresting people and sending them to jail for 20 years for tearing down a poster with muhammed written on it and drawing someone nude, be compared?

I guess you should not have a problem when someone tears down a poster if your name was written on it but at the same time if your pics are posted nude it will be highly offensive. Thats the difference.

 

[Rig Vedic]

I don't want to go into technicalities but there are multiple depiction of all god and goddess, just because in one of them she was depicted wearing white vastra, does that mean she never wore colored vastra!

Anyway leave it. You have the right to feel offended and file lawsuits. But vandalizing art shows is unlawful.

There is a mainstream tradition, but definitely anybody is free to do what they like. I am not particularly offended ... I only set the record straight and treat ignoramuses with the contempt and pity they deserve.

 

[KS]

Nope i will not--

You dont get the difference ...Do you ?

Have you seen one Indian asking for the head of the Hussein who thought of that paintings and the hand that painted it. ?? NO.

Was he even attacked once physically while he was in India - NO.

We protest in a democratic manner and filed FIRs against him in a court of law (constitutionally granted right).

But the craven woman that Hussein is, he ran away from India unwilling to face the cases in the court and hid in the harem of the Qatari Emir.

Now compare that with what Muslims said about the Danish cartoonist.

p,s: I personally think what the Cartoonist did was deplorable as it plays with the sentiments of 1.5 billion people.

 

[JonAsad]

My dear fellow, we believe in freedom.

As far as Sanatana Dharma is concerned - when you try to spit at the overhead Sun, the spit will only fall on your own face.

I would recommend that you too allow free expression of all views, without making threats to kill those accused of blasphemy and apostasy.

alright, preaching starts from ones home, why not teach this tolerance to your country fellows first. I mean isn't it obvious you guys need it also.

and i am sure RSS was not going to appreciate Husain in his show, so it comes to the same sense, threatening some one for his beliefs.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Thats the exact question you should ask your self, why is that when it is about some one else religious figures, you preach tolerance, and ride or i say drive the freedom of speech band wagon, when it comes to you.. you start acting like kids and find excuses why its alright for us to tolerate and not for you.

There is a difference in drawing an image of someone, and painting someone nude.

Every society has its decency limits. And ours are much more liberal than yours.

 

[JonAsad]

Welcome back..

can arresting people and sending them to jail for 20 years for tearing down a poster with muhammed written on it and drawing someone nude, be compared?

You do consider it as a problem, isn't it? Then whats the use of giving these sort of examples to justify your reactions? You support blasphemy, cite examples and compare. You do not admit it, this sort of intolerance and threatening behavior is not acceptable, either be from a Muslim or a Hindu.

I guess you should not have a problem when someone tears down a poster if your name was written on it but at the same time if your pics are posted nude it will be highly offensive. Thats the difference.

I can see the obvious difference-- between tearing and posting nude.
But i can also see the similarities between the reaction most action caused

 

[Hindustani]

I honestly find nothing wrong with it. Some Thai, Cambodian, Indonesian and Vietnamese sculptures also depict some sort of nudity. However without a common knowledge and understanding of what is symbolic, people can interpret it the wrong way. I don't think this guy meant to offend anyone.

 

[JonAsad]

You dont get the difference ...Do you ?

Have you seen one Indian asking for the head of the Hussein who thought of that paintings and the hand that painted it. ?? NO.

Was he even attacked once physically while he was in India - NO.

We protest in a democratic manner and filed FIRs against him in a court of law (constitutionally granted right).

But the craven woman that Hussein is, he ran away from India unwilling to face the cases in the court and hding in the harem of the Qatari Emir.

Now compare that with what Muslims said about the Danish cartoonist.

p,s: I personally think what the Cartoonist did was deplorable as it plays with the sentiments of 1.5 billion people.

You know what the issue was let me quote

The paintings in question were created in 1970, but did not become an issue until 1996, when they were printed in Vichar Mimansa, a Hindi monthly magazine, which published them in an article headlined "M.F. Husain: A Painter or Butcher"

And he probably left the country because of these threats, keep in mind what can happen to thousands of others in gujrat, can aswell happen to just him

In 1998 Husain's house was attacked by Hindu groups like Bajrang Dal and art works were vandalised. The leadership of Shiv Sena endorsed the attack. Twenty-six Bajrang Dal activists were arrested by the police

P.S i am no supporter of playing with some one's religious sentiments in the name of free speech or expression. My problem is with duplicity most of you guys show in this very forum.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

I can see the obvious difference-- between tearing and posting nude.
But i can also see the similarities between the reaction most action caused

You see the similarity in reactions, but you don't see the difference in the reactions?

You don't see the fact that the protesters took the lawful route to protest. You don't see the fact that it is their fundamental right to protest peacefully, which they are exercising. You don't see the fact that it is Mr. Hussain who is absconding in the eyes of the law.

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And he probably left the country because of these threats, keep in mind what can happen to thousands of others in gujrat, can aswell happen to just him

Do you even know how many were killed in the Gujarat riots?