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India is a country created by British imperialism. The new generation of Indians are indoctrinated to believe that India is one nation and that India as a whole was occupied by Britain. The truth was that India was a civilization with many states like the western civilization with many states which we call Spain, France, Germany and England. However, because of the might of the British empire to drive out France, Spain, Netherland and Portugal from the Indian sub continent, India became one. If all these European countries hold on to their part of India, India today would still made up of many states. So the one factor that created India is Britain's victory over other Europeans.
 
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India is a country created by British imperialism. The new generation of Indians are indoctrinated to believe that India is one nation and that India as a whole was occupied by Britain. The truth was that India was a civilization with many states like the western civilization with many states which we call Spain, France, Germany and England. However, because of the might of the British empire to drive out France, Spain, Netherland and Portugal from the Indian sub continent, India became one. If all these European countries hold on to their part of India, India today would still made up of many states. So the one factor that created India is Britain's victory over other Europeans.

Do you even know what parts of India were controlled by these European States- France, Spain, Netherland and Portugal?
 
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India is a country created by British imperialism. The new generation of Indians are indoctrinated to believe that India is one nation and that India as a whole was occupied by Britain. The truth was that India was a civilization with many states like the western civilization with many states which we call Spain, France, Germany and England. However, because of the might of the British empire to drive out France, Spain, Netherland and Portugal from the Indian sub continent, India became one. If all these European countries hold on to their part of India, India today would still made up of many states. So the one factor that created India is Britain's victory over other Europeans.

I'm afraid you need to brush up on your history of the subcontinent.

Here are a few "keywords" to aid you in your googling quest. "Mauryas", "Chola" "Guptas" "Palas" etc etc.
 
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I'm afraid you need to brush up on your history of the subcontinent.

Here are a few "keywords" to aid you in your googling quest. "Mauryas", "Chola" "Guptas" "Palas" etc etc.

guys he is american so off course he knows more than others. why bother teaching him anything??:rofl::rofl:
 
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Global peace demands Balkanization off India…:woot:

India is the only major country of the world facing a fiercest insurgency of such a scale that nearly half of the country has plunged into instability imperiling the security of the remaining half. As a matter of fact, destabilized India poses grave risks to the peace and security of not only the region, the world at large will be exposed to destabilization. The sheer size of the country, its nuclear arsenal and its uncontrolled ambition to reign in the world makes it even a bigger monster than Al Qaeda and other such entities.

Presently, seven states of North East India, known as Seven Sisters, and an equal number of states from North East to South West of the country, known as Red Corridor, are up in arms against the Union of India. In the North Western State of Jammu and Kashmir, the independence movement is in full swing considerably eroding the writ of the government. The independence movements and insurgency in India have created security problems, not only for India itself, but the entire region of South Asia. In order to divert public and the world attention from internal security issues, India has kept itself engaged in reckless arms race and raised the bogey of external threat, most notably from Pakistan and China, both nuclear states.

Encircling Pakistan is a broader and medium-term strategic objective of India’s security establishment. The long-term objective is to disintegrate Pakistan and annex it in the Indian Union in line with India’s another strategic objective to reformulate Akhand Bharat. This is being achieved through efforts for extending its influence to Pakistan’s neighboring countries of Iran and Afghanistan. Opening of needless consulates along Pakistan-Afghanistan border to fund, fan and fuel Taliban and Baloch insurgency in order to destabilize its archrival is a part of the bigger game plan. Similarly, building of Chabahar port west of Pakistan’s deep sea port of Gwadar is an attempt to encircle Pakistan and deny China an energy corridor. Its extension of its sphere of influence to Indian Ocean and realigning itself with the states against China to serve American interests on the issue of South China Sea brings into conflict of a bigger proportion. In order to stop India from treading this dangerous trajectory, its internal insurgency needs to be brought under control.

There are serious tensions between Seven Sisters namely; Assam, Meghalaya, Tripura, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram, Manipur, and Nagaland and the Indian government. The movements are generally homegrown and are separatist movements in character. Assam has been the hotbed of militancy for a number of years due to its porous borders with Bangladesh and Bhutan. The insurgency status in Assam is classified as very active. Insurgent groups in Manipur may be broadly classified into hill-based and valley based. While the former demand for tribal state to preserve their tribal cultures from outside influence, the latter based their demands for independence from historical perspective claiming that Manipur a princely state with its geographical area extending to as far as the Kabaw valley of modern Myanmar during the British colonialism and was never a part of India and continues to remain so. The situation is no different in other states.

The Red Corridor is a term used to describe an impoverished region in the east of India that experiences considerable Naxalite communist insurgency. These are also areas that suffer from the greatest illiteracy, poverty and overpopulation in modern India, and span parts of Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal states. Naxalites have been declared as a terrorist organization under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act of India (1967). According to Govt. of India, as of July 2011, 83 districts (figure includes proposed addition of 20 districts) across nine states are affected by Left Wing Extremism down from 180 districts in 2009.

The insurgency in Kashmir has existed in various forms since the controversial accession of State to Indian Union. Thousands of lives have been lost since 1989 due to the intensification of both the insurgency and the state brutalities to curb it. According to official figures released in Jammu and Kashmir assembly (Indian controlled), there were 3,400 disappearance cases and the conflict has left more than 47,000 people dead as of July 2009.A widespread armed insurgency started in Kashmir with the disputed 1987 election with some elements from the State's assembly forming militant wings which acted as a catalyst for the emergence of armed insurgency in the region. This region has been a source of tension and reason for three wars between India and Pakistan and, after both the states have become nuclear-armed states, it can become a flashpoint of nuclear showdown.

India's Northeast consisting of the Seven Sisters is one of South Asia's hottest trouble spots, not simply because the region has as many as 30 armed insurgent organizations operating and fighting the Indian state, but because trans-border linkages that these groups have, and strategic alliances among them, have acted as force multipliers and have made the conflict dynamics all the more intricate. With demands of these insurgent groups ranging from secession to autonomy and the right to self-determination, and a plethora of ethnic groups clamoring for special rights and the protection of their distinct identity, the region is bound to be a turbulent one.

Moreover, the location of the eight northeastern Indian States itself is part of the reason why it has always been a hotbed of militancy with trans-border ramifications. This region of 263,000 square kilometers shares highly porous and sensitive frontiers with China in the North, Myanmar in the East, Bangladesh in the South West and Bhutan to the North West. The region's strategic location is underlined by the fact that it shares a 4,500 km-long international border with its four South Asian neighbors, but is connected to the Indian mainland by a tenuous 22 km-long land corridor passing through Siliguri in the eastern State of West Bengal, appropriately described as the ‘Chicken's Neck.'

The situation in the Red Corridor is no less grave. The first 25 years of the Naxalite insurgency were characterized by the communist principles on which the movement was founded. Fighting for land reform, the rebels gained support from the impoverished rural populations of eastern and central India. The Maoist rebellion quickly adopted violence and terror as the core instruments of its struggle against the Indian authority. Primary targets included railway tracks, post offices, and other state infrastructure, demonstrating the Maoists’ commitment to undermining a central government that they believed exploited low castes and rural populations. As states and the central government employed uncoordinated and underfunded responses to the Naxalites, the threat expanded beyond West Bengal and its neighboring states.

In 2004, the two predominant rebel groups, the Maoist Communist Center (MCC) and the People’s War Group (PWG), merged together. The resulting Communist Party of India (Maoist) emerged as a solidified base of power for the Naxalites, with a stated goal of overthrowing the Indian government. It has developed in its modern form as a rebellion that comprises up to 40,000 permanent armed cadres and 100,000 additional militia members.

The nascent stages of the movement reflected the stark contrast between urbanized areas of India and the primarily rural, underdeveloped regions of Naxalite influence. With the Maoist rebels firmly entrenched in geographically remote areas, Indian government resources remained dedicated to urban security and development concerns. As India looks increasingly to its east for vital resources, the conflict continues to expand beyond the principles of its origin. With a growing population and new development initiatives that require additional coal-powered electricity sources, India’s urban centers have come into direct contact with the states most affected by the Naxalite uprising: West Bengal, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, and Maharashtra. Containing 85 percent of India’s coal reserves, these states have presented insurgents with an opportunity both to strike at the heart of national interests and to seek economic profit of their own.

This brief description of Indian insurgency shows that India has serious problems with all its neighboring states who India wants to bully into submission in order to quell the insurgency. Its problems having potential of triggering regional wars of nuclear proportions are with Pakistan and China.

In the interest of global peace, it is essential to break India into smaller states to thwart the risk of global anarchy and regional wars. The long-standing demand of Jammu and Kashmir for independence, already accepted by the world community should be translated into reality. The states of the Red Corridor may be given autonomy and the Seven Sisters should be accepted as ethnic and cultural entity for statehood. If India gets rid of these warring states, it can progress as a vibrant country, it neighbors will have a measure of safety and security and the world at large will be immune to any disorder which is staring it in the face at the moment.


Source: Global peace demands Balkanization of India
 
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@AsianUnion - wouldn't it be simpler to just hire Gen.Raheel Sherieff (after his retirement in Pakistan) to come and conduct an operation to take care of these 30 insurgencies you're worried about? Otherwise if India becomes 20 nations as you suggest, imagine all the additional geography home work kids have to do? nah, I think we'll keep India the way it is now.
 
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LARGE size countries with poor population trounced by heavy military/defence budgets are like a heavy ceramic ball hanging over a fragile stick, i.e., the masses. They are bound to tumble/break. Breaking up of USSR is a classic example.

lol seriously we are spending less than 2% of our gdp on defence and pakistan is spending 3,5% + of its gdp and ussr u guys are talking of was spending way much more than 5% may be near 10% back then (i have read somewhere in past will try to find source) pray to god these kind of ppl dont make u r policies if they do we need to focus less resources on u guys
 
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India is a country created by British imperialism. The new generation of Indians are indoctrinated to believe that India is one nation and that India as a whole was occupied by Britain. The truth was that India was a civilization with many states like the western civilization with many states which we call Spain, France, Germany and England. However, because of the might of the British empire to drive out France, Spain, Netherland and Portugal from the Indian sub continent, India became one. If all these European countries hold on to their part of India, India today would still made up of many states. So the one factor that created India is Britain's victory over other Europeans.

Partly wrong. India was not a single civilization. In fact, India simply "was not India" before the colonial era. What came to be known as India today started off as an Asian region south of the Himalayas that the British occupied as a colonial power, and called British India, like the Dutch called Indonesia "Dutch India".
 
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India is an united country which has over come all the odds . proxy wars have been a big failure and infact made India and Indians more stronger and united.

The more Indians are being pressed , the more they become more stronger and united.

We are still the only surviving ancient civilization which has absorbed other nations unlike other nations. We are a model of multi culturalism and multi religious nation. No body dares to mess with us directly and thats why proxy tactics are being used to create tensions . Indians are matured enough to understand the ground realities.

 
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Partly wrong. India was not a single civilization. In fact, India simply "was not India" before the colonial era. What came to be known as India today started off as an Asian region south of the Himalayas that the British occupied as a colonial power, and called British India, like the Dutch called Indonesia "Dutch India".

Global peace demands Balkanization off India…:woot:

India is the only major country of the world facing a fiercest insurgency of such a scale that nearly half of the country has plunged into instability imperiling the security of the remaining half. As a matter of fact, destabilized India poses grave risks to the peace and security of not only the region, the world at large will be exposed to destabilization. The sheer size of the country, its nuclear arsenal and its uncontrolled ambition to reign in the world makes it even a bigger monster than Al Qaeda and other such entities.

Presently, seven states of North East India, known as Seven Sisters, and an equal number of states from North East to South West of the country, known as Red Corridor, are up in arms against the Union of India. In the North Western State of Jammu and Kashmir, the independence movement is in full swing considerably eroding the writ of the government. The independence movements and insurgency in India have created security problems, not only for India itself, but the entire region of South Asia. In order to divert public and the world attention from internal security issues, India has kept itself engaged in reckless arms race and raised the bogey of external threat, most notably from Pakistan and China, both nuclear states.

Encircling Pakistan is a broader and medium-term strategic objective of India’s security establishment. The long-term objective is to disintegrate Pakistan and annex it in the Indian Union in line with India’s another strategic objective to reformulate Akhand Bharat. This is being achieved through efforts for extending its influence to Pakistan’s neighboring countries of Iran and Afghanistan. Opening of needless consulates along Pakistan-Afghanistan border to fund, fan and fuel Taliban and Baloch insurgency in order to destabilize its archrival is a part of the bigger game plan. Similarly, building of Chabahar port west of Pakistan’s deep sea port of Gwadar is an attempt to encircle Pakistan and deny China an energy corridor. Its extension of its sphere of influence to Indian Ocean and realigning itself with the states against China to serve American interests on the issue of South China Sea brings into conflict of a bigger proportion. In order to stop India from treading this dangerous trajectory, its internal insurgency needs to be brought under control.

There are serious tensions between Seven Sisters namely; Assam, Meghalaya, Tripura, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram, Manipur, and Nagaland and the Indian government. The movements are generally homegrown and are separatist movements in character. Assam has been the hotbed of militancy for a number of years due to its porous borders with Bangladesh and Bhutan. The insurgency status in Assam is classified as very active. Insurgent groups in Manipur may be broadly classified into hill-based and valley based. While the former demand for tribal state to preserve their tribal cultures from outside influence, the latter based their demands for independence from historical perspective claiming that Manipur a princely state with its geographical area extending to as far as the Kabaw valley of modern Myanmar during the British colonialism and was never a part of India and continues to remain so. The situation is no different in other states.

The Red Corridor is a term used to describe an impoverished region in the east of India that experiences considerable Naxalite communist insurgency. These are also areas that suffer from the greatest illiteracy, poverty and overpopulation in modern India, and span parts of Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal states. Naxalites have been declared as a terrorist organization under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act of India (1967). According to Govt. of India, as of July 2011, 83 districts (figure includes proposed addition of 20 districts) across nine states are affected by Left Wing Extremism down from 180 districts in 2009.

The insurgency in Kashmir has existed in various forms since the controversial accession of State to Indian Union. Thousands of lives have been lost since 1989 due to the intensification of both the insurgency and the state brutalities to curb it. According to official figures released in Jammu and Kashmir assembly (Indian controlled), there were 3,400 disappearance cases and the conflict has left more than 47,000 people dead as of July 2009.A widespread armed insurgency started in Kashmir with the disputed 1987 election with some elements from the State's assembly forming militant wings which acted as a catalyst for the emergence of armed insurgency in the region. This region has been a source of tension and reason for three wars between India and Pakistan and, after both the states have become nuclear-armed states, it can become a flashpoint of nuclear showdown.

India's Northeast consisting of the Seven Sisters is one of South Asia's hottest trouble spots, not simply because the region has as many as 30 armed insurgent organizations operating and fighting the Indian state, but because trans-border linkages that these groups have, and strategic alliances among them, have acted as force multipliers and have made the conflict dynamics all the more intricate. With demands of these insurgent groups ranging from secession to autonomy and the right to self-determination, and a plethora of ethnic groups clamoring for special rights and the protection of their distinct identity, the region is bound to be a turbulent one.

Moreover, the location of the eight northeastern Indian States itself is part of the reason why it has always been a hotbed of militancy with trans-border ramifications. This region of 263,000 square kilometers shares highly porous and sensitive frontiers with China in the North, Myanmar in the East, Bangladesh in the South West and Bhutan to the North West. The region's strategic location is underlined by the fact that it shares a 4,500 km-long international border with its four South Asian neighbors, but is connected to the Indian mainland by a tenuous 22 km-long land corridor passing through Siliguri in the eastern State of West Bengal, appropriately described as the ‘Chicken's Neck.'

The situation in the Red Corridor is no less grave. The first 25 years of the Naxalite insurgency were characterized by the communist principles on which the movement was founded. Fighting for land reform, the rebels gained support from the impoverished rural populations of eastern and central India. The Maoist rebellion quickly adopted violence and terror as the core instruments of its struggle against the Indian authority. Primary targets included railway tracks, post offices, and other state infrastructure, demonstrating the Maoists’ commitment to undermining a central government that they believed exploited low castes and rural populations. As states and the central government employed uncoordinated and underfunded responses to the Naxalites, the threat expanded beyond West Bengal and its neighboring states.

In 2004, the two predominant rebel groups, the Maoist Communist Center (MCC) and the People’s War Group (PWG), merged together. The resulting Communist Party of India (Maoist) emerged as a solidified base of power for the Naxalites, with a stated goal of overthrowing the Indian government. It has developed in its modern form as a rebellion that comprises up to 40,000 permanent armed cadres and 100,000 additional militia members.

The nascent stages of the movement reflected the stark contrast between urbanized areas of India and the primarily rural, underdeveloped regions of Naxalite influence. With the Maoist rebels firmly entrenched in geographically remote areas, Indian government resources remained dedicated to urban security and development concerns. As India looks increasingly to its east for vital resources, the conflict continues to expand beyond the principles of its origin. With a growing population and new development initiatives that require additional coal-powered electricity sources, India’s urban centers have come into direct contact with the states most affected by the Naxalite uprising: West Bengal, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, and Maharashtra. Containing 85 percent of India’s coal reserves, these states have presented insurgents with an opportunity both to strike at the heart of national interests and to seek economic profit of their own.

This brief description of Indian insurgency shows that India has serious problems with all its neighboring states who India wants to bully into submission in order to quell the insurgency. Its problems having potential of triggering regional wars of nuclear proportions are with Pakistan and China.

In the interest of global peace, it is essential to break India into smaller states to thwart the risk of global anarchy and regional wars. The long-standing demand of Jammu and Kashmir for independence, already accepted by the world community should be translated into reality. The states of the Red Corridor may be given autonomy and the Seven Sisters should be accepted as ethnic and cultural entity for statehood. If India gets rid of these warring states, it can progress as a vibrant country, it neighbors will have a measure of safety and security and the world at large will be immune to any disorder which is staring it in the face at the moment.


Source: Global peace demands Balkanization of India

From the DailyMail Online Edition:

"LARGE size countries with poor population trounced by heavy military/defence budgets are like a heavy ceramic ball hanging over a fragile stick, i.e., the masses. They are bound to tumble/break. Breaking up of USSR is a classic example. International observers must take cognizance of the fact that the poor masses of India are sick and tired of huge sums of money allocated for the piles of ammunition and various weapons systems. Their ambitions for a better life have been sacrificed at the altar of successive Indian government’s greed of arming themselves. Furthermore, increasing suicides by Indian farmers, growing activities of Naxalites, resurgence of protests and resistance in Indian Held Kashmir and presence of over two dozen separatist movements within India may lead to a possible Balkanization of the country. Discriminatory treatment given to the Indian Muslims is also recreating the environment of 1930s and 40s. Presence of 30 million Muslims in India should eventually result into creation of other one or two Muslim homelands within a divided India, given the declining social justice conditions. The domino effect would thus implicate that Balkanization of India could become a new geopolitical reality in the coming two to three decades.

The true conditions of oppression, discrimination, poverty, deprivation of political and social liberties resulting into armed resistances should be projected as some of the possible reasons for a further division/partition of India in the coming times. Indian military ambitions indicate her hegemonic designs in the region while majority of Indians cannot afford to have two meals a day. Numbers living below poverty line are increasing in a geometric progression, adding to the misery and woes of the heads of families, who are subsequently finding it more and more difficult to make both ends meet. Unfortunately India spends billions of dollars to purchase weapons. Indian hegemonic designs can be construed from her $3.5 billion defence deal with USA inked during US President Barack Obama’s visit to India in November 2010. The Daily Mail notes that the new slogan being raised that `India is world class nation’ despite the fact that 37% of India’s population is living below the poverty line, millions sleep by the road side and die of hunger, public infrastructure is crumbling, corruption level is higher than ever and people are suffering the brunt of elected weak government. If these are the benchmarks of the world class nations, then India ranks on the top of the list. We need to recall history to incorporate facts that India intends to snare more and more international investors in her intriguing economic web by painting rosy prospects of miraculous economic growth and showing India as one of the emerging powers of the world. India’s false claims for being a peace-loving nation have been exposed by its atrocities on the Kashmiris, whom it is slaughtering like chicken. Indian Premier has focused on good neighbourly policy and cooperation to improve ties with Pakistan; however Indian State Terrorism and hegemonic designs have been a cause of concern for all its neighbours. It’s bullying and browbeating of its neighbours has been much to the chagrin of all and sundry. On top of it, its false premise of seeking peace with its neighbours, show that the words of Indian leaders have failed to match their deeds in the past. The writing on the wall is clear, India’s Balkanization is rapidly becoming a reality and like its mentor, the erstwhile Soviet Union, Indian break up is a fast becoming ominous. It is a matter of grave concern for Pakistan and India’s other neighbours too since the rot is likely to effect the entire region."

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Let me know, how many political visionaries imagined India to survive a decade after 1947, for the unusual religious, ethnic or linguistic diversities it have within its territorial limits? But this nation did survive; not just for a decade but for seven long decades and with little sign of diminishing of nationalist spirit, much unlike this thread which could not survive mere two pages.
 
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Let me know, how many political visionaries imagined India to survive a decade after 1947, for the unusual religious, ethnic or linguistic diversities it have within its territorial limits? But this nation did survive; not just for a decade but for seven long decades and with little sign of diminishing of nationalist spirit, much unlike this thread.

Boss,

You actually bothered to articulate a measured response to the tripe like above. o_O
 
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