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India’s ambitions to encircle Pakistan

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Yes he's right but India can't do anything to harm Pakistan at big level, these small tactics of Afghanistan card won't work for long !!

I agree with you...and i feel that Pakistan is not just a take away country that India can do anything in big level...I can understand the sensitivity involved in Pakistan by the involvement of India in Afghanistan....but i believe that India is not in a position now or in future to do any misadventure in Afganistan wrt Pakistan..I feel it is the deficit of trust between India and Pakistan that is creating misunderstanding... Otherwise...India is primarily targeting to establish its footprint as a nation in Afghanistan that is partner of a nation in trade,commerce and economic development rather than any military engagement... And on top of that India and Pakistan can really work with each other in Afghanistan too...Because ultimately...both Pakistan and India want a stable and economically successful Afganistan...

I think Pakistan is overestimating the Indian military capacity in Afganistan more than really what Indian military can do...But they are really underestimating the impact of trade and economic activity related impact that Indian has created in Afghanistan....I hope it makes sense to you..
 
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My friend you don't know a single thing about Indian development. Those rich flats today in Indian cities today were also once slums and dirtyy shanty buildings. Slums of today will be replaced by more right flats in future. SLow or fast India will keep growing and producing more builders, billionares and industrialists who will keep driving India forward.

When poor becomes middle and middle becomes rich means country is moving forward. I see that happening India at high rate. Do you see the same in Pakistan??



Yes you can't stop us from being a superpower, only can see ;)

Give kashmir to India and solve the problem.

L O L yes by kicking poor out and building on their land poverty is being eliminated i guess thats one way of looking at it.
 
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How can India isolate Pakistan?

1) Afghanistan - Religious and Cultural links are the same.

2) China - Very strong relationship. Chinese officials jokingly tell the American counterparts that Pakistan is their "Israel."

3) Saudi Arabia - Very Strong Relationship, Saudi Arabia would not dump Pakistan for India

4) Oman- Good relationship, we know them and they know us. Cannot possibly see how India make Oman prefer India over Pakistan.

5) Iran - Relationship is not hostile or that great either. Pakistan and Iran have never fought a war in contemporary times and we don't have conflicts with them. How can India turn them against us?

6) UAE- We have good relationship with their ruling Sheikhs.

Shaikh_Zayed_International_Airport.jpg


I'm quite curious as to how they came up with idea, because to be quite frank I don't it see happening.

7) Nepal- We have decent relations with them.

8) Sri Lanka - We have decent relations with them.

Thats pretty everyone in the immediate neighbourhood.

So how does India plan to encircle Pakistan. In my opinion I see India encircled.

India has China and Pakistan as enemies. Sri Lanka and many in Nepal don't like India too much.

Then you are left with Bangladesh, Bhutan, and Myanmar.

I guess Indian relations with Bangladesh and Bhutan are decent.

Myanmar tries to a keep balance between China and India.

Afghanistan will probably have a Pro-Pakistan government in the future.

So how is India encircling Pakistan? Where is the developments?
 
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How can India isolate Pakistan?

1) Afghanistan - Religious and Cultural links are the same.

2) China - Very strong relationship. Chinese officials jokingly tell the American counterparts that Pakistan is their "Israel."

3) Saudi Arabia - Very Strong Relationship, Saudi Arabia would not dump Pakistan for India

4) Oman- Good relationship, we know them and they know us. Cannot possibly see how India make Oman prefer India over Pakistan.

5) Iran - Relationship is not hostile or that great either. Pakistan and Iran have never fought a war in contemporary times and we don't have conflicts with them. How can India turn them against us?

6) UAE- We have good relationship with their ruling Sheikhs.

Shaikh_Zayed_International_Airport.jpg


I'm quite curious as to how they came up with idea, because to be quite frank I don't it see happening.

7) Nepal- We have decent relations with them.

8) Sri Lanka - We have decent relations with them.

Thats pretty everyone in the immediate neighbourhood.

So how does India plan to encircle Pakistan. In my opinion I see India encircled.

India has China and Pakistan as enemies. Sri Lanka and many in Nepal don't like India too much.

Then you are left with Bangladesh, Bhutan, and Myanmar.

I guess Indian relations with Bangladesh and Bhutan are decent.

Myanmar tries to a keep balance between China and India.

Afghanistan will probably have a Pro-Pakistan government in the future.

So how is India encircling Pakistan? Where is the developments?

You are trying to read more tan what is being said (ground reality). What if India's intentions are just to establish a good and solid trade post in Afghanistan?
 
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India’s ambitions to encircle Pakistan​

By Brig. (Retd) Asif Haroon Raja:


In marked contrast to its high standing across the globe where it shows a humane face and claims to be the champion of democracy and secularism, India doesnt enjoy good reputation within South Asia where its interests clash with neighboring countries. It has used Chankyan tactics to deceive, beguile or blackmail its adversaries or has used force to browbeat the smaller states and make them submit to its wishes. Among its neighbors, Pakistan is its arch rival since it refuses to accept Indias supremacy and wants relationship on equal basis. India has still not reconciled with the existence of Pakistan and keeps hatching conspiracies and even going to war to undo Pakistan.



Creation of Pakistan from within the womb of Indian Union on August 14, 1947 was the biggest shock inflicted upon the Brahman elites of India. Pakistans survival and progress traumatized them further and to lessen their anguish they keep hatching conspiracies to impede and possibly block all avenues of progress and at an opportune time deliver a knockout blow. India supported Pakhtunistan stunt espoused by Afghanistan. It was essentially its quest for security against the vastly superior India harboring hegemonic ambitions, unfriendly Afghanistan and not so friendly USSR which motivated Pakistan to join western pacts and seek US military assistance.


India has gone to war with Pakistan five times including two limited conflicts in Rann of Katch and Kargil. In 1971, aided by USSR, India succeeded in truncating Pakistan but when it found that Pakistan refused to become its satellite, its infamous RAW recommenced its covert war to weaken other parts of Pakistan and also accelerated its force modernization program with emphasis on mechanization of ground forces and upgrading its naval and air arms with the help of USSR.

Sindh was chosen as the next target of subversion after East Pakistan. One reason of picking up Sindh was the importance of Karachi with lone seaport and economic hub of Pakistan. Its covert operations succeeded in accentuating antagonism between old and new Sindhis and thus creating urban-rural divide in Sindh. 1973 Baloch insurgency in Balochistan was supported by USSR, Afghanistan and India. When Soviet forces occupied Afghanistan in 1979 and the US and Pakistan became strategic allies to confront the Soviet threat, Indias RAW joined hands with KGB and KHAD to carryout subversive activities in Pakistan. The MRD movement in rural Sindh was also supported by India. Alignment with USA from 1991 onward enabled India to spoil Pak-US relations.




Pakistan should offset Indias nefarious encirclement plan by disagreeing to grant land route to India through Wagah border for its contemplated trade with Afghanistan and Central Asian Republics and that too without resolving core disputes. Our military responses to Cold Start will have to be rehashed at the earliest.

The writer is a retired Brig and a defence analyst.

MarkTheTruth

If This was the Quality of Brigadier in Pakistan , Then it makes Sense why within 10 days they were on their knees . Put all the Blame of war on India . As If India started Operation Gibrarlter or India occupid Kargil . Usual KHAD , KGB , RAW garbage although he missed Mossad and CIA in this concoction .
 
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India’s ambitions to encircle Pakistan​

By Brig. (Retd) Asif Haroon Raja:

India is largest in size and population and militarily and economically the strongest country in South Asia. Indian Army of 1.4 million with 34 combat divisions is the third largest in the world and Indian air force and navy too are formidable. India has made its standing in the world because of its geo-strategic importance and huge economic market. Diplomatically it is well placed in the world comity of nations and enjoys best of relations with world powers as well as with the Muslim world. Till 1990 it was strategic partner of former Soviet Union. After latters demise India snuggled into the lap of USA and became its strategic partner but without damaging its relations with Russia. It also developed close ties with Israel which has over a period of time become Indias biggest arms supplier. India then mended fences with China by pushing border dispute in Himalayan region to the back-burner and promoted trade. India got closer to Iran when Afghanistan was under the rule of Taliban and Afghan Northern Alliance (NA) leadership had taken refuge in Tehran. However, Afghanistan under anti-India and pro-Pakistan Taliban rule was a huge loss for India. In anticipation of a regime change in Kabul, it started providing full support to NA leaders during their period of exile. India is now a strategic partner of Afghanistan where Pakistans influence has diminished considerably.

In marked contrast to its high standing across the globe where it shows a humane face and claims to be the champion of democracy and secularism, India doesnt enjoy good reputation within South Asia where its interests clash with neighboring countries. It has used Chankyan tactics to deceive, beguile or blackmail its adversaries or has used force to browbeat the smaller states and make them submit to its wishes. Among its neighbors, Pakistan is its arch rival since it refuses to accept Indias supremacy and wants relationship on equal basis. India has still not reconciled with the existence of Pakistan and keeps hatching conspiracies and even going to war to undo Pakistan.

Out of 13 Corps, seven Indian Corps are deployed against Pakistan. Majority of its airbases are also poised against Pakistan and its Navy is geared toward blocking Karachi in the event of war. Besides equipping its forces with latest weaponry and technology, India is refurbishing the obsolete military equipment with US-Israel efforts. Indian defence budget is increasing annually at an alarming rate. India has since long been aspiring to turn Pakistan into a captive Indian market and to encircle Pakistan. It has partially encircled Pakistan after occupying two-thirds Kashmir, which overlooks AJK, and Siachen Glacier which dominates Gilgit-Baltistan, and substantially enhancing its naval presence in the Indian Ocean to turn Arabian Sea as its exclusive domain so as to quarantine Pakistan. After opening Pakistan specific consulates in Afghanistan and in Iranian provinces bordering Pakistan for the purposes of sabotage and subversion, and helping Iran in building Chahbahar Port and linking it with Indian constructed Highway Delaram-Zaranj in Afghanistan, its strategic encirclement plan is near completion.

Creation of Pakistan from within the womb of Indian Union on August 14, 1947 was the biggest shock inflicted upon the Brahman elites of India. Pakistans survival and progress traumatized them further and to lessen their anguish they keep hatching conspiracies to impede and possibly block all avenues of progress and at an opportune time deliver a knockout blow. India supported Pakhtunistan stunt espoused by Afghanistan. It was essentially its quest for security against the vastly superior India harboring hegemonic ambitions, unfriendly Afghanistan and not so friendly USSR which motivated Pakistan to join western pacts and seek US military assistance.

Pakistan has on number of occasions gone out of the way to throw away the baggage of animosity with India and to make a fresh start. Ignoring the wrongs of India, Quaid-e-Azam had made an offer to forget the past and live as peaceful neighbors and to jointly work towards improving the quality of life of common people. His offer was spurned by Nehru and Indian forces forcibly occupied two-thirds Kashmir in October 1947. Kashmir thus became a bone of contention and a major cause of never-ending antagonism. FM Ayub Khan made an offer of joint defence which was also brushed aside by Nehru. ZA Bhutto agreed to Indira Gandhis suggestion of bilateral-ism in the 1972 Simla Conference but India exploited it by preventing third party mediation/facilitation and putting Kashmir issue in a cold storage.

Gen Ziaul Haq offered umpteen proposals to make South Asia nuclear free zone but India paid no heed to any. Benazir Bhutto went to the extent of providing list of Sikh leaders engaged in Khalistan movement but she failed to appease Rajiv Gandhi. Nawaz Sharif too tried hard to find an amicable solution to the chronic dispute of Kashmir though composite dialogue and to improve Indo-Pak relations but could make no headway due to Indian leaders rigid stance that Kashmir is integral part of India. Gen Musharraf crossed all limits to appease India by suggesting a solution outside the realm of UN Resolutions but he couldnt bring any change in Indias uncompromising stand. The current regime is also following the policy of appeasement but has failed to solicit positive response from India. Rather, India has all along maintained a belligerent posture and on several occasions Indian military might got deployed along the border and came close to an all-out war.

India has gone to war with Pakistan five times including two limited conflicts in Rann of Katch and Kargil. In 1971, aided by USSR, India succeeded in truncating Pakistan but when it found that Pakistan refused to become its satellite, its infamous RAW recommenced its covert war to weaken other parts of Pakistan and also accelerated its force modernization program with emphasis on mechanization of ground forces and upgrading its naval and air arms with the help of USSR.

Sindh was chosen as the next target of subversion after East Pakistan. One reason of picking up Sindh was the importance of Karachi with lone seaport and economic hub of Pakistan. Its covert operations succeeded in accentuating antagonism between old and new Sindhis and thus creating urban-rural divide in Sindh. 1973 Baloch insurgency in Balochistan was supported by USSR, Afghanistan and India. When Soviet forces occupied Afghanistan in 1979 and the US and Pakistan became strategic allies to confront the Soviet threat, Indias RAW joined hands with KGB and KHAD to carryout subversive activities in Pakistan. The MRD movement in rural Sindh was also supported by India. Alignment with USA from 1991 onward enabled India to spoil Pak-US relations.

Strategic alliance with the sole super power in the aftermath of 9/11 is helping India in fulfilling its grandeur plans to become a regional and a world power and to keep the dispute of Kashmir on the back burner. Considering Pakistan to be the only stumbling block in her way to achieve her ambitions, she considered occupation of Afghanistan by USA and its allies in November 2001 and establishment of a pro-India regime in Kabul together with ongoing war on terror an ideal opportunity to encircle Pakistan and force it to give up Kashmir and accept Indias hegemony, or else balkanize it or remove it from the world map. Above all, it opened the avenues for India to regain its lost influence in Afghanistan and to further expand it and become a key player.

Notwithstanding that acquisition of nuclear and missile capability by Pakistan has greatly minimized the risk of war with India; however, nuclear Pakistan has earned perpetual hostility of India, Israel and USA. News ways are now being devised to disable our nuclear program without having to wage a war. While continuing to procure latest state-of-art weapons from all quarters, India vociferously objects to any effort by Pakistan to procure its modest defence needs from any country and the west lends receptive ears to its laments. In order to offset Pakistans nuclear strategic deterrence, India has ventured upon its Cold Start Doctrine which initially envisaged 7-8 self-containing battle groups but has now been increased it to 15 groups. Indian hackers tried to hack secrets of Army Exercise Azm-e-Nao III, a response action to Cold Start, and succeeded partially. Water war and now the economic war to supplement covert war are part of Indias overall scheme to isolate Pakistan and make it irrelevant. It is desperate to get land access to Afghanistan through Pakistan.

Pakistan should offset Indias nefarious encirclement plan by disagreeing to grant land route to India through Wagah border for its contemplated trade with Afghanistan and Central Asian Republics and that too without resolving core disputes. Our military responses to Cold Start will have to be rehashed at the earliest.

The writer is a retired Brig and a defence analyst.

MarkTheTruth

The analysis is 100% accurate
 
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Why on earth would India want to encircle Pakistan ?

Pak has done a wonderful job of encircling itself by the self inflicted injuries it has afflicted upon itself over the decades.

It began with aligning itself with the west, wasted an opportunity by alienating its Eastern half an lost it. Tried to get even by instigating the Punjab insurgency which failed, shifted focus to J&K, USSR gave a wonderful opportunity to Pak to come center stage by invading Af . It turned out to be another opportunity squandered..

Now after kargil , Mumbai & Abbotabad and similar instances does Pak need to be encircled by India ? No. Pak is binding itself in knots again & again. India needs to do nothing really.

The author seems to have a grouse on the suggested land route across Pak. India did well without the land route & shall continue to muddle along without it.

Lastly, no one can ride your back unless its bent. Pak needs to simply straighten up by realizing the permanent & ir reversible damage thats being done by its ' saviors' and 'force multipliers".

Till then, this feeling of encirclement will remain.
 
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Sorry Brig. (Retd) Asif Haroon Raja, India simply is not interested in Pakistan. We have larger fish to catch.

That is why your 70% of military... your more thn half fwd bases and front like fighters towards west border rather then towards big fish whom always laughing at you that on even got massive support from last 12 years from all worlds power like US, UK, France you are still unable to catch that fish lol

We know your status and your capability and level in 2000, how you'r standing today at this place from whom support lol kid world is not enough stupid like your Bollywood nation to understand that whom supporting and for what objectives you'r today stand!
 
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Typical bakwas article. Why we Pakistanis are so obsessed with India? This love and hate relationship and obsession with india put question mark on pakistan movement and two nation theory.
Like an indian member said pakistanis should think independantly.
 
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India has still not reconciled with the existence of Pakistan and keeps hatching conspiracies and even going to war to undo Pakistan.

What the hell is this. :cheesy:
 
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That is why your 70% of military... your more thn half fwd bases and front like fighters towards west border rather then towards big fish whom always laughing at you that on even got massive support from last 12 years from all worlds power like US, UK, France you are still unable to catch that fish lol

We know your status and your capability and level in 2000, how you'r standing today at this place from whom support lol kid world is not enough stupid like your Bollywood nation to understand that whom supporting and for what objectives you'r today stand!

What a useless self gloating, :lol: Because at that place our three states J&K, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand shares our majority border with China, so Posting army in North-India will serve both purposes.
 
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Something they are taught on regular basis. by thr family, media. scholar. daneshwar molvis :D. It is something which we can call pure brain fart.

This is the extreme of hate mongering. So, when did anyone in India said Pakistan is an illegal state like the Arabs use for Israel. :hitwall:
 
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