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Here's an Example why Indian IT is considered one of the best in World:

The awards only say that Indian IT can provide comparable service at lower cost. There is NOTHING that Indian IT provides in terms of innovation or exceptional capability that cannot be obtained elsewhere.

Must make you feel a big man constantly undermining India's achievements huh? And that's a myth. There are far cheaper markets for IT products to be produced Pakistan being one of them but yet foreign firms keep expanding their presence in India? India ofers a lot more than competive pricing. The IT sector in India is filled by highly educated and competent individuals who are hungry in a sector the govt has allowed to flourish. It's a perfect combination.

Countries like Pakistan cannot compete because they don't have stable political environments. Other countries can't compete because their English fluency is not as good as India's.

Indian IT is only competitive in the developed world where it can undercut pricing by local providers. Indian IT companies have not made significant inroads in other parts of the world. Even in South America, Indian IT mostly caters to their US/European MNC clients.

Compare that to products which are inherently superior and, therefore, find consumers in poorer countries. People in India will buy Apple iPhones, BMW and Mercedes -- even though they are produced by a richer country -- because the product itself is worth the price premium.
 
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Spare this forum your ignorance. You know nothing about IT.
All these are administration system, CRM, CAM..are designed to work with Six Sigma (American) These are basic programming system, there's no cutting edge technology development, research or manufacture.

IT service is back office support and administration system, not technology development.

These two quoted post doesn't seem unequivocal. You making excuses?

These are basic structure, there's no cutting edge or new technology development, research or manufacture.

All i can see coming from you is :blah::blah: . Anyways show me how many of TCS products are made by using Six Sigma tech if you so much about TCS. LOL Ignorance is bliss man.

If you're an IT powerhouse, you would have a few Supercomputer ranked in the top 40. Period.

LOL. One Indian SC was at #5 4-5 years ago.

The awards only say that Indian IT can provide comparable service at lower cost. There is NOTHING that Indian IT provides in terms of innovation or exceptional capability that cannot be obtained elsewhere.
LOL had it been so, then Cheap Chinese phones would've been undoubtedly #1 all over the universe.
 
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These two quoted post doesn't seem unequivocal. You making excuses?

They are essentially the same thing.

All i can see coming from you is :blah::blah: . Anyways show me how many of TCS products are made by using Six Sigma tech if you so much about TCS. LOL Ignorance is bliss man.

Six Sigma is not a tech. :omghaha: You have no clue what you're talking.

Ignorance is low IQ.

LOL. One Indian SC was at #5 4-5 years ago.

There was never an Indian supercomputer ranked at no.5
So you're another Indic or srivinas. All these lies and brainless bragging make your feel better about yourself and your country? Good luck to India.
 
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You know little on semiconductor, very little, hehe!

I am a masters in semiconductor field (VLSI precisely ) and work for CISCO ..... :)

Lol @ your conspiracy theories. When other countries wipe the floor with you technologically, is your response always to dig your head in the sand and assert it's not possible?

I bet you believe that other countries practise open-air toilets too. "If Indians sh!t in public, so must other countries - it's not possible they're light-years ahead of India and have ended this practice!" :rofl:

There seems to be some kind of anger when I said "fake stats".

I wonder how the officials at provincial level and central level are coping now a days as the bubble is getting burst open and fake stats are getting revealed at all levels .... :lol:

I also want to know what kind of propaganda material is given to the media and other CCP mouth pieces to cover up these fake stats and lies associated with that !
 
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According to "International Conference for High Performance Computing Networking Storage and Analysis" ????????
Dumbo Indian media makes people dumber :omghaha:

Dumb Chinese Communist party,and dumb propaganda bots

Nov 13, 2007

The supercomputer "EKA", which means number one in Sanskrit, was named Asia's fastest and the world's fourth fastest in the Top 500 Supercomputer list announced at an International Conference for High Performance Computing at Reno (California), USA, yesterday night.

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why so much obsession for the "Speed" of computer??nobody even don't bother to check actual speed.the speed is measured in Floating point Operations Per Second, or FLOPS.what is more important to us is to provide more and more supercomputers,irrelevant to their speed.

but there is one amazing fact,more than 95% of all Top 500 Supercomputers run on some variants of Linux.chinese guys should brag of this field by making an OS/Karnel,just like India build one using Linux,BOSS,which is Open Source and is distributed under GNU license..and guess what,it was built by Indian Govt owned CDAC.

Bharat Operating System Solutions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Go find who is the authority for ranking supercomputer. Don't embarrass yourself and your country further.

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FYI-

RankSiteSystemCoresRmax (TFlop/s)Rpeak (TFlop/s)Power (kW)
1DOE/NNSA/LLNL
United StatesBlueGene/L - eServer Blue Gene Solution
IBM212,992478.2596.42,329
2Forschungszentrum Juelich (FZJ)
GermanyJUGENE - Blue Gene/P Solution
IBM65,536167.3222.8504
3SGI/New Mexico Computing Applications Center (NMCAC)
United StatesSGI Altix ICE 8200, Xeon quad core 3.0 GHz
SGI14,336126.9172.0
4Computational Research Laboratories, TATA SONS
IndiaEKA - Cluster Platform 3000 BL460c, Xeon 53xx 3GHz, Infiniband
Hewlett-Packard14,240117.9170.9

November 2007 | TOP500 Supercomputer Sites
 
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:
"India, installed a Hewlett-Packard Cluster Platform 3000 BL460c system. They integrated this system with their own innovative routing technology and achieved 117.9 TFlop/s performance.

The No.5 system is also a new Hewlett-Packard Cluster Platform 3000 BL460c system and installed at a Swedish government agency. It was measured at 102.8 TFlop/s."

Wonder why the rules are changed.

It's the same story as your so called indigenous weapons. :rofl::rofl:
 
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In terms of raw processor speed, the projected increases are relatively minimal. The main problem is that, even though we can cram more transistors, the power consumption becomes a stumbling block. That's one of the areas where Intel is focusing their efforts.

DARPA summons researchers to reinvent computing | ExtremeTech

By Joel Hruska on January 30, 2012 at 8:30 am

The US’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) announced a new initiative this week aimed at finding solutions to the major problems challengingcomputer scalability. The program — dubbed the Power Efficiency Revolution for Embedded Computing Technologies, or PERFECT, will kick off with a workshop in Arlington, Virginia on February 15.

The endeavor has been a long time coming. Back in 2007, DARPA commissioned a study on whether or not it would be possible to build anexascale computer by 2015 and the challenges such a system would face. The results were not encouraging. The 297-page report explored the question from every imaginable angle and included extensive discussion on non-standard approaches to the problem. The research group concluded that “while an Exaflop per second system is possible (at around 67MW [megawatts]), one that is under 20MW is not. Projections from today’s supercomputers… are off by up to three orders of magnitude.”




Exascale scaling issues — The gap between DARPA’s best-case projections for a number of approaches to the problem and the performance target is significant


The problems facing exascale computing can be grouped into two (very) general categories — power consumption and efficiency scaling. For decades, Dennard Scaling allowed manufacturers like Intel to significantly increase clock speed generation after generation while holding power consumption relatively steady. This came screeching to a halt in 2005. “That expected increase in processing performance is at an end,” said DARPA Director Regina E. Dugan. “Clock speeds are being limited by power constraints. Power efficiency has become the Achilles Heel of increased computational capability.”

Adding more cores might have solved the problem in the short-term for the consumer market, but it doesn’t work when trying to build out exascale systems. The more cores in a supercomputer, the greater the chances that cross-node communication latencies and systemic inefficiencies will sabotage performance of the entire system. Meanwhile the additional cores and their associated DRAM banks, routers, HDDs, and motherboards all consume more power.

PERFECT’s goal is to revolutionize processor efficiency by exploring concepts like near threshold voltage operation and “massive heterogeneous processing concurrency.” The second concept refers to the fact that a number of supercomputers now incorporate specialized additional processors. To date, this has mostly meant Nvidia GPUs, but the debut of Intel’s Knights Corner later in 2012 means we’ll soon see a greater range of co-processors. While the potential speed increase from using specialized hardware is enormous, ensuring that workloads are distributed efficiently across thousands of processors is a significant challenge.


Near threshold voltage research got a major visibility boost at IDF this past fall when Justin Rattner, the director of Intel Labs, demonstrated a 32-bit CPU capable of running on solar power.

The goal of NTV is to operate a chip using between 400-500mV — much lower than current operating voltages. This is difficult because it approaches the minimum point at which silicon transistors are either on or off — at voltages this low, controlling leakage current is a major concern.

The chip Intel demoed at IDF, codenamed Claremont, is based on the company’s original Pentium and consumes as little as 10mW. Intel hasn’t revealed much in the way of specifics on the chip’s construction, but the company’s blog post states that NTV chips are extremely sensitive to power supply and voltage fluctuations. Building Claremont required the company to redesign the on-chip caches/logic, and incorporate new circuit designs.



NTV could potentially solve the scaling problems that plague the semiconductor industry today, but the fact that it took Intel several years to build an LTV variant of a well-known, very simple CPU is evidence that we won’t see the technology galloping over the hill any time soon. It may be telling that Intel chose to debut an NTV variant of a simple, low-power processor that shares more in common with Atom than with any modern Xeon. It’s entirely possible that the technologies Intel uses to reduce current leakage and minimize voltage variance are at odds with high-performance microprocessors.

DARPA’s new program is a good start, but the challenges facing exascale computing aren’t unique to any particular architecture or system design; they’re fundamental problems related to manufacturing scaling. As such, they aren’t going to be resolved any time soon. That we will hit exascale computing is a given — but whether we’ll be able to move much beyond it is a legitimate question.
 
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