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The recent attitude of Muslim nations after India changed the status of Kashmir ought to be an eye opener for Pakistanis who fall for the "brotherly nations" clique. The Gulf states awarded tons of medals to Modi. Indonesia jumped for joy at India's investments in its palm oil industry after Malaysia was cut off due to the Malaysian leader criticizing India. Most Muslim nations turned their heads the other way regarding the move as India's internal affair due to trade with India.

When western nations dropped stable and working governments in Muslim nations including Syria, the Muslim nations joined either Russia or the West in bombing those nations, not caring an iota for the millions of Muslim people of the invaded nation whose lives were destroyed overnight. China and India effectively imprisoned millions of Muslims overnight. Again Muslim nations, save for one or two, remained tight lipped. And yet some Pakistanis still hold hope to the Ummah rushing to their defense if India invades Pakistan. The fact remains that in the past the assistance given was token.

You cannot use Muslim nations lame reaction over Kashmir issue to make a comparison over Muslim nations possible reaction if Pakistan is under attack by India. This comparison cannot be used to explain the situation since India administered Kashmir have been recognized as legal Indian territory based on international community acceptance, there is why almost all Muslim countries cannot do what Pakistan wants. Similar like many Muslim countries that accept Xin Jiang as China territory despite inside many Muslim heart they dont accept that.

On the other hand, an attack on Pakistan legal territory with intention to be annexed is a very different story. That action will not be treated lightly by Muslim nations and economic embargo plus financial and military help will come IMO, not too mention many Muslim jihadist that will help Pakistan from all over Muslim countries.

India never invest in Indonesia palm oil industry and Indonesia never feel happy for such move (refined Palm oil ban). If you search palm oil related news, Indonesia and Malaysia are always hand in hand in palm oil issue as we are both the sole producer of Palm Oil in the world and faced huge challenge from sun flowers and soyabean producing country in Europe and US. If you read an Indonesian member here said that Indian move is cheered by Indonesian, it is just a personal consideration.

Logically, any restriction on palm oil product will hit both Indonesia and Malaysia as Indonesia also produce refined product that is banned by India. Since the banning comes, there will be tight competition on crude palm oil market in India since Malaysia will try to sell its crude to India that is currently dominated by Indonesia palm oil, so the price will eventually comes down if there is no counter action taken by Indonesia with its biofuel program inside the country.

When western nations dropped stable and working governments in Muslim nations including Syria, the Muslim nations joined either Russia or the West in bombing those nations, not caring an iota for the millions of Muslim people of the invaded nation whose lives were destroyed overnight. China and India effectively imprisoned millions of Muslims overnight. Again Muslim nations, save for one or two, remained tight lipped. And yet some Pakistanis still hold hope to the Ummah rushing to their defense if India invades Pakistan. The fact remains that in the past the assistance given was token.

Syrian problem is rather complex since it is internal Muslim conflict that include sects. The fact is some Muslim countries participate on the war by giving money, ammunition, and weapon to the rebel because they think it is genuine upraising and also want to see Sunni sect lead new Syria. Even Turkish military are also present in Syria. Many Muslims from other countries are also risking their live and participate on the war. On the other hand Shiah sect country like Iran and sects faction like Hisbullah help the government to crush the revolution. So actually Muslim countries and people do participate in the war but unfortunately in different sides.
 
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IMO Pakistan should focus on its economy first.

I dont think India will ever attack Pakistan since this move will make Muslim nations blockade Indian and India rely heavily on oil and gas supply from Gulf nations.

India is more on competing with Chinese though.





india CAN NEVER compete with China as unlike the Chinese, the indians HAVE NEVER EVER invented ANY advanced Sciences or Technologies. Nor are they ever likely to do so. All indians can do is buy advanced weapons systems from the West and Russia wheras the Chinese 100% indigenously invent and produce such weapons systems entirely themselves.
 
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IMO Pakistan should focus on its economy first.

I dont think India will ever attack Pakistan since this move will make Muslim nations blockade Indian and India rely heavily on oil and gas supply from Gulf nations.

India is more on competing with Chinese though.
This is funny ..where are muslim countries ..i dont see any.i dont even see arab countries anymore..
 
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Embargo by OIC not going to happen. Times have significantly changed.

India after lot of dithering for decades is embarking on military procurement to create a massive asymmetry vis a vis Pak.

Defeat and subdue the enemy without firing a bullet.




Apart from in bollywood fantasy that has not happened and is likely to never happen, unless you believe that india shot down an F-16 and killed exactly 350 terrorists in Balakot..............:lol:.......Pakistan's burgeoning nuclear weapons program and other advanced weapons systems programs have ensured this. That is EXACTLY why india was too powerless, weak and pathetic to do ANYTHING to Pakistan after we had shot down an indian fighter jet(s), despite being more than 7x bigger than Pakistan and having the full backing of the West and Russia.......:azn:........also, unlike the West, Russia and China, the indians HAVE NEVER EVER been able to invent or produce advanced weapons systems themselves even though there are over 1.4 billion indians, nor are they EVER likely to do so. All they can do is buy those systems in limited amounts from the West and Russia. For that reason alone, indian will never have the ability to take on the Pakistani military. All indians can do is blow hot air and make a lot of noise on the net. Nothing more............:azn:
 
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Looking at the list it’s safe to assume Indian home made weapons development has failed?




When you are buying weapons systems and other things from nations and races that are more than 10x smaller than you, it just goes to show how inferior and retarded your people are.............:lol:
 
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When you are buying weapons systems and other things from nations and races that are more than 10x smaller than you, it just goes to show how inferior and retarded your people are.............:lol:

We cant help the fact that everyone is 10 times smaller. You buy stuff from Ukraine Italy Turkey etc . They are 10 times smaller than you
 
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Embargo by OIC not going to happen. Times have significantly changed.

India after lot of dithering for decades is embarking on military procurement to create a massive asymmetry vis a vis Pak.

Defeat and subdue the enemy without firing a bullet.

You can buy as much as you want to

Defeat and subdue part still isn't going to happen
 
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We cant help the fact that everyone is 10 times smaller. You buy stuff from Ukraine Italy Turkey etc . They are 10 times smaller than you




If they were 10x smaller than Pakistan, then their populations would be less than 20.2 million...........:rofl::rofl:..........get your facts right.........:disagree:. For a race of people who claimed to have been a superpower since 2012, it's ironic that you can't invent, design or produce ANYTHING that nations less than 10x your size can.......:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:......so much so that you have to buy it from them...........:lol:
 
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Embargo by OIC not going to happen. Times have significantly changed.

India after lot of dithering for decades is embarking on military procurement to create a massive asymmetry vis a vis Pak.

Defeat and subdue the enemy without firing a bullet.
There is a reason we are investing in Missiles which can make your Military systems in dust

Lol saying to the country who believes in Jihad. We would beat the shit out of you even without you firing a bullet
 
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If they were 10x smaller than Pakistan, then their populations would be less than 20.2 million...........:rofl::rofl:..........get your facts right.........:disagree:. For a race of people who claimed to have been a superpower since 2012, it's ironic that you can't invent, design or produce ANYTHING that nations less than 10x your size can.......:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:......so much so that you have to buy it from them...........:lol:

 
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You have just proved my point using the above clip. 1.4 billion indians can ONLY achieve very little in science and technology using the Sciences and Technologies of the West and Russia or buying it en-masse from them. indians can do NOTHING themselves.
 
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You have just proved my point using the above clip. 1.4 billion indians can ONLY achieve very little in science and technology using the Sciences and Technologies of the West and Russia or buying it en-masse from them. indians can do NOTHING themselves.

What do you think all Chinese science and technology comes from ????
Its ALL western and Russian
 
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What do you think all Chinese science and technology comes from ????
Its ALL western and Russian



Up till the late 1990s that was true. Now they can 100% indigenously produce nearly everything themselves to the point where they are on par with Russian standards and approaching Western standards too. They need NO-ONE else's help, science or technology any more. The Chinese are now an advanced, intelligent and scientific/technological race, same as the Whites are.
 
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Now they can 100% indigenously produce nearly everything themselves

You said their own science and technology. What you are saying is that they slowly progressed by COPYING western science and technology . WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY . All that is copied more often than not stolen from the West.
Where is the ORIGINAL SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY. Who produces it ????
Give me some example of the hundreds of gadgets in my room and outside invented by CHINA
 
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