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India Rising? Maybe Not.
If the prime minister does not act decisively now, then India will fail to prosper.
by Derek M. Scissors

There has been a spate of India headlines this month. Prime Minister Narendra Modi wins big in the recent elections, but gross domestic product growth falls to 5.8 percent and unemployment spikes. The first event may prove economically harmful, the second does not especially matter and the third is misleading. More important than (rough) estimates of GDP and unemployment is the government’s ongoing failure to address India’s central development challenge.

Start by dismissing reported GDP. That Delhi’s GDP claims have stretched credulity is old news, now replaced by worries growth is too slow. But GDP is just an accounting tool with no direct implications for individual welfare. India’s working age population is known to be huge and expanding. If more people are employed in decent jobs, then GDP growth will probably be high and still not matter much in itself.

The policy debate has thankfully shifted somewhat from GDP to jobs. Since independence, all Indian governments have suppressed employment data or simply failed to measure it. The most recent document from the Reserve Bank offers no results since 2011–2012 and the latest from the Labour Ministry relegates core figures to page 177, buried under a mountain of nonsense.

It thus constitutes progress that the Modi administration released unfavorable labor numbers just after the election (after denying them for months). But the focus has been on supposedly record-high unemployment of 6.1 percent. Official data is so poor there is no way to tell if this is a record. More salient, if Delhi were pursuing sound policies, joblessness would be this pervasive or more so.

Given the demographic expansion and the different development levels of Indian states, the number of labor market entrants should overwhelm job creation in parts of the country, leading to high spot unemployment and long-term labor migration. But dynamic hiring in some regions and sectors would keep job-seekers engaged in the market.

This is not happening. The key statistic is not unemployment but labor force participation. In a healthy Indian economy, the labor market would be vibrant enough to maintain high labor force participation despite unavoidably high unemployment. Instead, the just-released data show labor force participation at just 50 percent in 2017–2018, down from a mediocre 56 percent in 2011–2012.

The International Labor Organization attempts to measure global labor force participation, an almost impossible task. It estimates the global average at 61 percent for 2017. It puts India’s eternal rival China at 69 percent. The Philippines, another country looking to young workers to spur growth, is at 60 percent, higher than India was even before Modi.

At 50 percent participation and falling, a jobless rate half the newly disclosed level would still be a failure. The much-touted demographic dividend has had no value because so many incoming workers give up before contributing to the economy, and the rest must support them. Dependency ratios typically refer to employees supporting retirees. In this situation, successful workers must offset both retirees and the many younger workers who are on the sidelines indefinitely.

The Modi government did nothing meaningful to respond to declining participation in its first term, trumpeting itself as the champion of the common man while delegating to states the most important issue for the common man. The states failed, and, if the prime minister does not act decisively now, India will fail to prosper.

Initial returns are discouraging. In most of India, manufacturing, agriculture and mining firms with more than one hundred workers can only fire workers with government permission; in other sectors there is also a clearance process. If firms cannot fire, then they are naturally much more hesitant to hire. A labor market that does not absorb the demographic wave has been the result.

Labor reform has been promised as an agenda item for Modi’s second term, but only as a peripheral issue, leaving untouched the critical ability to downsize when necessary. Promises to improve the ease of doing business are endless, but, without labor reform, these efforts will boost profitability, not employment. In the same vein, proposed privatization can reduce wasted government spending but private firms face the same labor restrictions as the public sector and also will not hire.

Worse is the belief that what India needs is a larger fiscal deficit or much looser monetary conditions. Fiscal and monetary stimulus is for governments afraid of reform. If Prime Minister Modi refuses to directly address labor force participation in his second term, then India will have wasted a full decade of its demographic expansion. And its dream of future economic leadership will die.

Derek M. Scissors is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on the Chinese and Indian economies and on U.S. economic relations with Asia. He is concurrently chief economist of the China Beige Book.
 
i am interested in indian toliets...
Its a good business.

imagine starting a portable toilet company. their population is 1.339 billion and the quoted stat is that more than half dont have toilet.

If you charge $1 a month per person you are looking at $669 million revenue a month and annual revenue of $8 billion a year.

Something to think about.

Than you can add in Pakistan motorway style premium toilets and make even more money.
 
Its a good business.

imagine starting a portable toilet company. their population is 1.339 billion and the quoted stat is that more than half dont have toilet.

If you charge $1 a month per person you are looking at $669 million revenue a month and annual revenue of $8 billion a year.

Something to think about.


yup...but USD 1 may be too much for an average indian.. remember a rupee for thier poopee may be the bench mark


meal also thinking supplying them cow urine... heck we can even put ours in ... they wont know the difference
 
Its a good business.

imagine starting a portable toilet company. their population is 1.339 billion and the quoted stat is that more than half dont have toilet.

If you charge $1 a month per person you are looking at $669 million revenue a month and annual revenue of $8 billion a year.

Something to think about.

Than you can add in Pakistan motorway style premium toilets and make even more money.

$1 a month? Bro they gotta eat before they can use the toilet...
 
$1 a month? Bro they gotta eat before they can use the toilet...


it seems they are able to eat... as evidence by their public poo poo habits..

You don't need off topic trolling when the OP itself provide you opportunity to do so.

trolling?..

this is a serious business case matter.

what makes u thing i am joking here?.. i genuinely believe in their toilet industry
 
$1 a month? Bro they gotta eat before they can use the toilet...

Though it might be true for large section but there is still masive amount that can afford it. their GDP Per Capita is $1900 per year or $158 per month. So they can spare a few $$$ for luxury of doing business in private.

You can also expand the range to portable showers.
 
The Indians are very stingy, even the ‘middle class’ ones. They argue and over cents or pennies, they are far from even having a mindset of being developed economy.
 
Prime Minister Narendra Modi wins big in the recent elections, but gross domestic product growth falls to 5.8 percent and unemployment spikes.

Our GDP growth rate is 6.8 pc and not 5.8 pc.

A lots of jobs are created in unorganized sector whose data is not available. More over loan to over 10 crore people is provided out of which over 4 crore has taken it for the first time. So India has generated atleast 4 to 8 crore new entrepreneurs. This are going nice. Last years, our per capita income rose by 11 pc to over 10500 a month which is a very nice rise.
 
Our GDP growth rate is 6.8 pc and not 5.8 pc.

A lots of jobs are created in unorganized sector whose data is not available. More over loan to over 10 crore people is provided out of which over 4 crore has taken it for the first time. So India has generated atleast 4 to 8 crore new entrepreneurs. This are going nice. Last years, our per capita income rose by 11 pc to over 10500 a month which is a very nice rise.
Stats , specially govt provided stats are like mini skirts .
Loan to crores people - with over 80% of those loans being 75000/ or lower , hard to imagine what sort of business you can do in such low amount. I can foresee majority of those turning sour and putting even more stress on public sector banks.
Track the psu bank index , most of them have lost over 50% value in past 3 years .
Its the unorganised sector which has lost most number of jobs ,not the other way around. Ofcourse the govt will hide behind unavailablity of unorganised sector.
 
with over 80% of those loans being 75000/ or lower , hard to imagine what sort of business you can do in such low amount. I can foresee majority of those turning sour and putting even more stress on public sector banks.

What do you think 75000 is? You can start many business like beauty parlor, small vegetable shop, small work shop, pan galla, small cloth shops,sewing machine etc etc.
 
What do you think 75000 is? You can start many business like beauty parlor, small vegetable shop, small work shop, pan galla, small cloth shops,sewing machine etc etc.
So you think there was a shortage of small business like vegetable shops ,pan shops etc etc in India prior to loan scheme by present govt ?
And no previous govt had such loan schemes ?
 
Alone surface transport ministry is buying half of the cement produced in India and has saved 5 lakh crore from being NPA. It has generated 50 lakh new jobs. Now over 30 km Express way is made every day. by 2022, 5 lakh crore shall be spent in Maharashtra alone on infrastructure, Are the jobs not generated?

So you think there was a shortage of small business like vegetable shops ,pan shops etc etc in India prior to loan scheme by present govt ?
And no previous govt had such loan schemes ?

what loans were given to individuals and small sectors is something you can find from net. Search and post here. Why are you asking me?
 
So you think there was a shortage of small business like vegetable shops ,pan shops etc etc in India prior to loan scheme by present govt ?
And no previous govt had such loan schemes ?

Yes there was no such scheme before . People are opening small roadside shops and paying back the money in monthly installments like around 1900 rupees per month . It is happening .

Government also gave around 15000 rupees to poor people to construct toilets , many used the money for the intended purpose and many didn't . Government also gave 1.5 lakh rupees assistance to poor people to build small pakka houses .

These schemes have reached people , may be not as much as the government is claiming but they have certain reached a decent chuck of the poor population . And all these benefits were deposited directly to the bank accounts of the poor through their jan dhan bank accounts
 

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