India prepares for Nuclear Attacks, plans Underground Bunkers in major cities

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

can some body show me how to start a new thread.

 

[Śakra]

LOL Stop dreaming, kiddo. Just having a larger population or bigger land won't make you a safer place. In fact, you know very well that various studies carried by Western sources have already predicted a devastation that would affect the entire world. You are only going to survive as a deformed creature at best. Needless for me to lecture you on the environmental loss etc. You cannot even comprehend what nukes are. We are going to complete our triad to make sure that you feel the brunt as much as possible. Don't think we are playing around.

Who says we are going to stop once we start? You? LOL

Your nukes a LOW YIELD, understand. The whole arsenal of pakstan won't be able to take out more than 2-3 metros, forget about affecting the whole world. Nuclear bombs SPEND their radiation so their is minimal amounts left after an explosion. Stop playing video games, real life doesn't work like that. We will survive your low yield nukes but you won't survive ours. "In 1999 India was estimated to have 800 kg of separated reactor-grade plutonium, with a total amount of 8300 kg of civilian plutonium, enough for approximately 1,000 nuclear weapons.[11][12]" So 17 years ago we had the capacity to make 1,000 nukes, just imagine how many we can make now.

 

[Skywalker]

lolzzz you want to beleve that

thing is there was a reason why USA asked Pakistan to back off when pakistan threatened neuclear war in 1999 and china dint become a party to it but i maybe wrong

Arey Bhai Kia raath ko medicine Lena Bhool Gaye they.

Your nukes a LOW YIELD, understand. The whole arsenal of pakstan won't be able to take out more than 2-3 metros, forget about affecting the whole world. Nuclear bombs SPEND their radiation so their is minimal amounts left after an explosion. Stop playing video games, real life doesn't work like that. We will survive your low yield nukes but you won't survive ours. "In 1999 India was estimated to have 800 kg of separated reactor-grade plutonium, with a total amount of 8300 kg of civilian plutonium, enough for approximately 1,000 nuclear weapons.[11][12]" So 17 years ago we had the capacity to make 1,000 nukes, just imagine how many we can make now.

Yes yes

 

[maximuswarrior]

Your nukes a LOW YIELD, understand. The whole arsenal of pakstan won't be able to take out more than 2-3 metros, forget about affecting the whole world. Nuclear bombs SPEND their radiation so their is minimal amounts left after an explosion. Stop playing video games, real life doesn't work like that. We will survive your low yield nukes but you won't survive ours. "In 1999 India was estimated to have 800 kg of separated reactor-grade plutonium, with a total amount of 8300 kg of civilian plutonium, enough for approximately 1,000 nuclear weapons.[11][12]" So 17 years ago we had the capacity to make 1,000 nukes, just imagine how many we can make now.

Stop living in fairyland moron. Stop using bold fonts stupid Indian. Like as if that is going to make you a truth teller LMAO

You know nothing about the yield of our nukes. No country shares such critical information with other countries. Stupid fool. We have some of the most advanced designs which we have improved drastically throughout the years. Ask your American and Israeli buddies. They should know. Our nuke yields are more than perfect to destroy India multiple times. Now fvck off and do something about the poverty in your country. Moron is handing out lectures about the yield of nuclear weapons, but hundreds and millions of people in his country don't have a roof or a meal.

 

[Śakra]

We have some of the most advanced designs which we have improved drastically throughout the years.

"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me, and they ask me. They say, 'Who has the best nukes"? And I tell them, look, I know nukes, we have the best nukes. We have the best nukes. First of all the nukes, by the way, I love nukes. It's probably my favourite weapon, no it is my favourite weapon. Let me tell you, there are no better nukes than pakistan's." -maximuswarrior

 

[Windjammer]

We have 1.2 billion people we can survive a nuclear war. Our paschim neighbours OTOH will not survive our response.

Unlike Pakistan your population is very dense, Mumbai, Kolkota, Delhi, Chenai....if they are taken out, India will just collapse, our population is thinly spread.

Step 6: India retaliates with her whole arsenal. pakistan is gone.

Pakistan wouldn't launch in a manner to await response, if it does it will make sure to cripple India.
Besides even if Pakistan goes, there are other Muslim countries in the world, end of India means Hindus become extinct.

 

[manojb]

Unlike Pakistan your population is very dense, Mumbai, Kolkota, Delhi, Chenai....if they are taken out, India will just collapse, our population is thinly spread.


Pakistan wouldn't launch in a manner to await response, if it does it will make sure to cripple India.
Besides even if Pakistan goes, there are other Muslim countries in the world, end of India means Hindus become extinct.

He simply said 'pakistan is gone' didn't mention muslims . You're wet dream of eliminating hindus is evident. . Keep dreaming

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Terrorism should be fought with terrorism...

 

[Soumitra]

Your women are running off with a Pakistani chai wala.

An Indian chaiwallah became the PM and all Pakistani p@ntie$ are in a twist

Besides even if Pakistan goes, there are other Muslim countries in the world, end of India means Hindus become extinct.

Lol you happy that hindus will be destroyed. Dont you know India has 180 M muslims also?

You are not sad that Pakistan will be destroyed. You are happy that Muslims will survive in other countries

Is there anything that Pakistanis dont see from religious lens. Even Nuclear War?

 

[manlion]

Unlike Pakistan your population is very dense, Mumbai, Kolkota, Delhi, Chenai....if they are taken out, India will just collapse, our population is thinly spread.
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please do Tamils a favour , spare Chennai slums and take out India's 'hi tech cities' Bengaluru , Amaravati etc Tamilnadu is surrounded by hostile Indian states

 

[fallstuff]

Great troll thread.

1) Wonder if Dalits are going to be allowed in those shelters ?

2) If they are allowed, will they be joining the dining/sleeping arrangements with the high caste Indians ?

3) In case a riot ( which does happen in India frequently ) brakes out between the fortunate high caste Indians and the Children of the lesser God, what plans Indian Govt has in place to keep peace in those confined quarters for such dire times ?

 

[GURU DUTT]

Arey Bhai Kia raath ko medicine Lena Bhool Gaye they.


Yes yes

then if you think we are so weak whats stopping both China and pakistan in attacking india and finishing it off for once

 

[A_Poster]

1. you are factually wrong. A shield decreased the efficiency of a swordsman. That is why master swordsmen never carry a shield. They might do it in battle to sacrifice efficiency for safety.

2. Yet pakistan contnue to attack us and wage a proxy war. No BMD is going to change that. To change that they need to FEAR us.

4. China would provide what pakistan cannot develop. Its evolution by ingesting a gene from a separate species like a virus.

6. Again, if you are seeking options then the war is already lost. The first and last battle and war should be fought in the enemies mind. The way to win that war is to inspire FEAR. That is what keeps the dogs away from the Tigers den.

2. We have full freedom to wage proxy war. Nukes bring stalemate to conventional conflicts, not proxy wars. It is our own shortcoming that we did not engaged in proxy war in Pakistan ,even though we have resource advantage over them. Here you should blame "cowardice" of common Indians ,which percolate to politico-bureaucratic elite of this country. BMD would affect this due to psychological effect it would have on Pakistanis. If they believe that Indian BMD works, irrespective of whether it work or not, they would not be sure whether they could contain their war in domain of proxys.

4. That's why I said "economic strength" ,not "scientific advancement". Pakistanis ,by not investing in basic S&T and preferring to import and repaint their weapons, have falling far behind India in S&T (Even India is not best in the world, but that only serve to demonstrate the length to which Pakistan has fallen) and thus could not compete head on with India in this field; but option of buying from China exist, but degree to which China could help them depend on economic strength of Pakistan. Even China has limits to being sugar daddy of Pakistan, specially when India could retaliate by arming its neighbors.

Another point related to this is that even Chinese would not be sure of ability of their countermeasures to defeat a BMD, let alone Pakistanis. When people criticize BMD for not providing a guarantee that it could intercept 100% on missiles, they ignore that other side (countermeasures) also could not provide a guarantee that they could get through a BMD. This would not matter in case of Russia and USA where you have thousands of nukes, but in case of Pakistan ,where you would could have around 200 nukes. Pakistan could not indulge in nuke spam tactics of USSR as they do not have access to Uranium mines of Kazakastan.


6. Seeking options is a prudent thing to do in a war, and every logical person would like to do that. The problem with nukes is that, if your enemy too have them, they lose their fear value as after a certain point, you are sure that you could affect your enemy's behaviour due to mutually assured destruction. If you want to break this cycle, you would need defensive technologies to complement your offensive nukes.

while most of your point is true , i would like to point out that even though tech is getting more sophisticated its not nessacarily geting expensive. if a watch comes out today it is expensive. wait 7 days its a little cheap. wait 3 months even more cheap. wait 3 years cheapest. its all about timing . and there will always be something cheap around to counter something expensive. take the klashinov as an example.

You cannot compare restricted technologies with consumer technology where fall in prices is given. The counter measures to BMDs , could not only be countered easily, are expensive but they reduce efficiency of missiles themselves.

(1) First: A BMD interceptor missile has kinetic advantage over a BM as an interceptor missile has to only gain intercepting altitude, while a BM has to leave atmosphere ,attain apogee and then came back. This mean that any increase in weight impose larger penalties in BM missile than on interceptor; and every counter impose weight penalties.

(2)The so called counters of BMD are duds. (a) Dummy warheads: Algorithms exists at predict path of warheads and could thus differentiate between dummy and live warhead. (b)Balloons and chaff: Not effective against modern radars (c)Maneuverable warhead: a realm of fantasy as maneuverability is inversely proportional to square of velocity, and if you reduce speed to make your warhead maneuverable, it become easy to intercept it.

This is the reason why you do not listen about test of counters too often. Countries like Russia have given up on them and are focusing on monster missiles (RS-28 Sarmat) which could carry upto 20 warheads thus overwhelming BMD.

we got uranium reserves to build large stock of BMD.
pakistan is the mineral rich country of the world. it's just a matter of time.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?64757-Pakistan-has-1-000-uranium-reserves-report
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/apr/14pak.htm

We have huge uranium reserves. Amen to that.

How much reserves? How much of that is mineable? What if U-235 % on those reserves)

Even by most optimistic estimate of 600 tonn by your own source , you would only get enough fissile material for 36 nukes ,even if you convert whole of your Uranium reserve into fissile material and maintain 100% efficiency on all stages starting from mining to machining.

 

[MagicMarker]

2. We have full freedom to wage proxy war. Nukes bring stalemate to conventional conflicts, not proxy wars. It is our own shortcoming that we did not engaged in proxy war in Pakistan ,even though we have resource advantage over them. Here you should blame "cowardice" of common Indians ,which percolate to politico-bureaucratic elite of this country. BMD would affect this due to psychological effect it would have on Pakistanis. If they believe that Indian BMD works, irrespective of whether it work or not, they would not be sure whether they could contain their war in domain of proxys.

This is rubbish because we have already split pakistan into two using proxy war.

Once having done that, we should have taken out their nuclear program by direct strike and collaborating with the US or Israel. The political leadership FAILED India (Rajiv Gandhi).

Second best thing would have been to embark upon a massive Nuclear weapons program. The GoI again Failed India.

BMD is an admission that WE NOW FEAR pakistan, instead of the other way around. SO unless we can prepare the proper mindset to wage a war and win it in the minds of our enemy, NO BMD is going to keep us safe because we have already admitted defeat.

4. That's why I said "economic strength" ,not "scientific advancement". Pakistanis ,by not investing in basic S&T and preferring to import and repaint their weapons, have falling far behind India in S&T (Even India is not best in the world, but that only serve to demonstrate the length to which Pakistan has fallen) and thus could not compete head on with India in this field; but option of buying from China exist, but degree to which China could help them depend on economic strength of Pakistan. Even China has limits to being sugar daddy of Pakistan, specially when India could retaliate by arming its neighbors.

Another point related to this is that even Chinese would not be sure of ability of their countermeasures to defeat a BMD, let alone Pakistanis. When people criticize BMD for not providing a guarantee that it could intercept 100% on missiles, they ignore that other side (countermeasures) also could not provide a guarantee that they could get through a BMD. This would not matter in case of Russia and USA where you have thousands of nukes, but in case of Pakistan ,where you would could have around 200 nukes. Pakistan could not indulge in nuke spam tactics of USSR as they do not have access to Uranium mines of Kazakastan.

Pakistan does not need to invest in S&T. They are fighting the proxy war on behalf of China. The same way they fought the war for US on Afghanistan.

They do not care about their own country, they only care to destroy us. First understand and ACCEPT this reality without any doubts or confusion. China will continue to support them wage this proxy war on us until they learn to FEAR India.

Indian S&T and investment and reliance on our own defence goods is FAR lower than our economic strength. Russia economy is HALF our economy and yet we look to them for Missiles, tanks, aircrafts , submarines, Aircraft carriers , Frigates, Aircraft's, Helicopters and Nuclear tech.

pakistan does what it does under the shadow and umbrella of China. Earlier it used to be the US. Without their sugar daddy they would have collapsed into economic, social and political chaos.

6. Seeking options is a prudent thing to do in a war, and every logical person would like to do that. The problem with nukes is that, if your enemy too have them, they lose their fear value as after a certain point, you are sure that you could affect your enemy's behaviour due to mutually assured destruction. If you want to break this cycle, you would need defensive technologies to complement your offensive nukes.

Seeking options is what a desperate man does. Its a prudent choice for those who come in second. A back up plan. A losers choice.

Fear is the only thing real in this world (apart from Greed) and NOBODY can every lose their Fear. Its the very root our our animal survival.

You want to win this war, you need to build such overwhelming force and power that the very thought of war (proxy or otherwise) should make them wet their pants. THAT is they only certain way to peace. Rest is only mental masturbation.

 

[Skywalker]

then if you think we are so weak whats stopping both China and pakistan in attacking india and finishing it off for once

Let me repeat again...aap kea waqt per medicine Lena Bhool Gaye they.