India, please stop deceiving the world and your people.

[faithfulguy]

Congrats you earned your 50 cents. Probably more since your post had even less logic that CCPs target.


Congrats you earned your 50 cents. Probably more since your post had even less logic that CCPs target.


Congrats you earned your 50 cents. Probably more since your post had even less logic that CCPs target.

When an Indian make ad hominem attacks. The truth had been revealed.

This Indian is saying that @beijingwalker @Two and @Dungeness had just exposed truth about India that no Indians can defend. So you guys are being attacked personally.

 

[doorstar]

they are revising history and there is every likelihood that they are being allowed to succeed at it

similar thread @
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nehr...ured-china-for-unsc-seat-says-jaitley.608566/

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Congrats you earned your 50 cents. Probably more since your post had even less logic that CCPs target.


Congrats you earned your 50 cents. Probably more since your post had even less logic that CCPs target.


Congrats you earned your 50 cents. Probably more since your post had even less logic that CCPs target.

Please don't defend lies.

no country can rely on lies to become a global power.
no country can rely on defend lies to become a global power.

Look, how serious Mr. Minister is.
He seems to be full of justice.
He is like a great soldier.
He seems to know everything.
He is like a moral guardian.
He is also like the Virgin Mary.
He is like a humble elder.
He seems to be worrying about world peace.
He must stand up and shout for mankind.

But do you know? He was lying...

 

[doorstar]

no country can rely on lies to become a global power.

no, but such a deluded country (ruled by destructive, murderous and cretinous lynch-mob) can be flattered (and manipulated into doing someone else's dirty work

 

[twocents]

Please don't defend lies.

no country can rely on lies to become a global power.
no country can rely on defend lies to become a global power.

Look, how serious Mr. Minister is.
He seems to be full of justice.
He is like a great soldier.
He seems to know everything.
He is like a moral guardian.
He is also like the Virgin Mary.
He is like a humble elder.
He seems to be worrying about world peace.
He must stand up and shout for mankind.
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But do you know? He was lying...

Relax, bro. This myth has been around for decades, since 1955 to be exact. It goes like this. The US offered to replace China with India on the UN security council but Nehru refused in the spirit of Hindi Chine Bhai Bhai. Indians have beem wringing their hands ever it ever since over Nehru's "foolishness".

Just ignore it. The last thing you want to do is argue with Indians.

 

[untitled]

1. 1945, China is one of the founding members of the United Nations (US, USSR, Britain, France, China).

Here by China does it not mean Taiwan? Taiwan was the founding member of the UN

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Here by China does it not mean Taiwan? Taiwan was the founding member of the UN

Sorry, that's the Republic of China.

The Republic of China does not represent Taiwan Province.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Here by China does it not mean Taiwan? Taiwan was the founding member of the UN

And please respect the Constitution of the Republic of China.

The capital of the Republic of China is Nanjing.

This is ROC's "statutory territory"

This is now the territory of China.

Tell the truth. I love ROC's "Statutory Territory".

 

[untitled]

Sorry, that's the Republic of China.

Sorry, what I meant was the rulers of the Republic of China fled to Taiwan after 1949.

Former members of the UN: Republic of China:
Republic of China

The Republic of China (ROC) joined the UN as an original member on 24 October 1945, and as set out by the United Nations Charter, Chapter V, Article 23, became one of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. In 1949, as a result of the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang-led ROC government lost effective control of mainland China and relocated to the island of Taiwan, and the Communist Party-led government of the People's Republic of China (PRC), declared on 1 October 1949, took control of mainland China. The UN was notified on 18 November 1949 of the formation of the Central People's Government of the People's Republic of China; however, the Government of the Republic of China continued to represent China at the UN, despite the small size of the ROC's jurisdiction of Taiwan and a number of smaller islands compared to the PRC's jurisdiction of mainland China. As both governments claimed to be the sole legitimate representative of China, proposals to effect a change in the representation of China in the UN were discussed but rejected for the next two decades, as the ROC was still recognized as the sole legitimate representative of China by a majority of UN members. Both sides rejected compromise proposals to allow both states to participate in the UN, based on the One-China policy.

By the 1970s, a shift had occurred in international diplomatic circles and the PRC had gained the upper hand in international diplomatic relations and recognition count. On 25 October 1971, the 21st time the United Nations General Assembly debated on the PRC's admission into the UN, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758 was adopted, by which it recognized that "the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council," and decided "to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it." This effectively transferred the seat of China in the UN, including its permanent seat on the Security Council, from the ROC to the PRC, and expelled the ROC from the UN. From the United Nations' perspective the "Republic of China" is not a former member. No UN member was expelled in 1971. Rather, the credentials of one Chinese delegation (from Taipei) were rejected and the credentials of another Chinese delegation (from Beijing) were accepted.

In addition to losing its seat in the UN, the UN Secretary-General concluded from the resolution that the General Assembly considered Taiwan to be a province of China. Consequently, the Secretary-General decided that it was not permitted for the ROC to become a party to treaties deposited with it

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Sorry, what I meant was the rulers of the Republic of China fled to Taiwan after 1949.

Former members of the UN: Republic of China:
Republic of China

The Republic of China (ROC) joined the UN as an original member on 24 October 1945, and as set out by the United Nations Charter, Chapter V, Article 23, became one of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. In 1949, as a result of the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang-led ROC government lost effective control of mainland China and relocated to the island of Taiwan, and the Communist Party-led government of the People's Republic of China (PRC), declared on 1 October 1949, took control of mainland China. The UN was notified on 18 November 1949 of the formation of the Central People's Government of the People's Republic of China; however, the Government of the Republic of China continued to represent China at the UN, despite the small size of the ROC's jurisdiction of Taiwan and a number of smaller islands compared to the PRC's jurisdiction of mainland China. As both governments claimed to be the sole legitimate representative of China, proposals to effect a change in the representation of China in the UN were discussed but rejected for the next two decades, as the ROC was still recognized as the sole legitimate representative of China by a majority of UN members.[citation needed] Both sides rejected compromise proposals to allow both states to participate in the UN, based on the One-China policy.

By the 1970s, a shift had occurred in international diplomatic circles and the PRC had gained the upper hand in international diplomatic relations and recognition count. On 25 October 1971, the 21st time the United Nations General Assembly debated on the PRC's admission into the UN, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758 was adopted, by which it recognized that "the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council," and decided "to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it." This effectively transferred the seat of China in the UN, including its permanent seat on the Security Council, from the ROC to the PRC, and expelled the ROC from the UN. From the United Nations' perspective the "Republic of China" is not a former member. No UN member was expelled in 1971. Rather, the credentials of one Chinese delegation (from Taipei) were rejected and the credentials of another Chinese delegation (from Beijing) were accepted.

In addition to losing its seat in the UN, the UN Secretary-General concluded from the resolution that the General Assembly considered Taiwan to be a province of China. Consequently, the Secretary-General decided that it was not permitted for the ROC to become a party to treaties deposited with it

Sorry, I mean. According to your understanding. UN permanent members are ROC or Taiwan?

 

[untitled]

Sorry, I mean. According to your understanding. UN permanent members are ROC or Taiwan?

From 1971 to now it is the PRC

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Sorry, what I meant was the rulers of the Republic of China fled to Taiwan after 1949.

Former members of the UN: Republic of China:
Republic of China

The Republic of China (ROC) joined the UN as an original member on 24 October 1945, and as set out by the United Nations Charter, Chapter V, Article 23, became one of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. In 1949, as a result of the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang-led ROC government lost effective control of mainland China and relocated to the island of Taiwan, and the Communist Party-led government of the People's Republic of China (PRC), declared on 1 October 1949, took control of mainland China. The UN was notified on 18 November 1949 of the formation of the Central People's Government of the People's Republic of China; however, the Government of the Republic of China continued to represent China at the UN, despite the small size of the ROC's jurisdiction of Taiwan and a number of smaller islands compared to the PRC's jurisdiction of mainland China. As both governments claimed to be the sole legitimate representative of China, proposals to effect a change in the representation of China in the UN were discussed but rejected for the next two decades, as the ROC was still recognized as the sole legitimate representative of China by a majority of UN members.[citation needed] Both sides rejected compromise proposals to allow both states to participate in the UN, based on the One-China policy.

By the 1970s, a shift had occurred in international diplomatic circles and the PRC had gained the upper hand in international diplomatic relations and recognition count. On 25 October 1971, the 21st time the United Nations General Assembly debated on the PRC's admission into the UN, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758 was adopted, by which it recognized that "the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council," and decided "to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it." This effectively transferred the seat of China in the UN, including its permanent seat on the Security Council, from the ROC to the PRC, and expelled the ROC from the UN. From the United Nations' perspective the "Republic of China" is not a former member. No UN member was expelled in 1971. Rather, the credentials of one Chinese delegation (from Taipei) were rejected and the credentials of another Chinese delegation (from Beijing) were accepted.

In addition to losing its seat in the UN, the UN Secretary-General concluded from the resolution that the General Assembly considered Taiwan to be a province of China. Consequently, the Secretary-General decided that it was not permitted for the ROC to become a party to treaties deposited with it

And your initial response

You're not talking about 1949...

 

[untitled]

You're not talking about 1949...

I was talking about 1945. When the UN was formed. There was no People's Republic of China in 1945

 

[SBUS-CXK]

From 1971 to now it is the PRC

So do you think UN grants permanent membership to Taiwan?
To tell you a secret, Taiwan is a Japanese colony in WWII. It makes no contribution.

The conversation ended.

I was talking about 1945. When the UN was formed. There was no People's Republic of China in 1945

No, you're talking about Taiwan. You didn't even talk about the Republic of China.

I was talking about 1945. When the UN was formed. There was no People's Republic of China in 1945

I know, the only thing you want to say is "ROC is not China". Or "Taiwan is a permanent member".

But unfortunately. UN still gives China the legitimate seats of permanent members of the Security Council.

 

[untitled]

No, you're talking about Taiwan

By "Taiwan" I meant the people who were ruling China before the 1949 revolution. After the revolution these people fled to Taiwan and formed a parallel "Chinese" government. Mainland China had no representation in the UN until 1971.