India orders Army back from attack posts on Pak border?

[Tamizhan]

A random poster on the internet is smarter than India's entire guild of policy makers? That represents for me. various causes of concern. Or you just don't know what you are talking about, I am more inclined to believe the latter.

You have a point..but amazingly logic has been absent many times Pakistan has decided to go on a little cross-LoC trip like in 65, 99 etc. Pakistan has not really gives us much to trust.

You guys invaded Siachen back in 1984, we were quite comfortable back then as well..

You dont really "invade" what was admittedly a no man's land.

 

[Icarus]

You have a point..but amazingly logic has been absent many times Pakistan has decided to go on a little cross-LoC trip like in 65, 99 etc. Pakistan has not really gives us much to trust.

Like I said before, that was an era of nascent strategics. It's long gone. We learnt the hard way that Kashmir will not be secured to subtlety, rather diplomacy is the only way forward if we are to make some headway on the issue.

You dont really "invade" what was admittedly a no man's land.

Pakistan had been marketing the glacier for an annual hike that persisted over 2 decades before the first Indian set foot on the glacier. It was a poorly marked border, but certainly not no-man's land.

 

[Tamizhan]

Like i said, policymakers are not fool. They know how important Sachen is for India as I illustrated in my previous post.

Dont be mislead by the armchairs here - both jingoistic and pacifist types on the merits and demerits of withdrawing from Siachen. Neither of them have an iota of what is actually at stake.

Many articles have been written by senior army men including former COAS, foreign secretaries, Intelligence officials, Strategic analysts like Kanwal Sibal, Former COAS Shankar Roy Chowdhury and VP Malik, Vikram Sood, Ajit Doval, Lt.Gen Vijay Oberoi , Gen.Sinha, B.Raman etc on the demerits of coming down from Siachen on anything other than on Indian conditions.

Surely not all of them would have got it wrong. Can there be any truth, even a little amount in it ? It is only natural to assume so.

Like I said before, that was an era of nascent strategics. It's long gone. We learnt the hard way that Kashmir will not be secured to subtlety, rather diplomacy is the only way forward if we are to make some headway on the issue.

Pardon India for not taking Pakistan's words on its face value. Trust must be earned.

Pakistan had been marketing the glacier for an annual hike that persisted over 2 decades before the first Indian set foot on the glacier. It was a poorly marked border, but certainly not no-man's land.

It was. The border extended only upto Pt NJ9842 and from there it was open to interpretation, the geographically correct interpretation placing the territory within India.

As for Pakistan's marketing that is not exactly India's concern. India still "markets" whole of J&K, GB as its intergral part. But ground realities vary.

1984 was a race which India won and one in which Pakistan participated and lost. There is no point in assuming the moral high ground on anyone's part.