India Navy offered Long-Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft

[Spring Onion]

Boeing Submits Proposal to Indian Navy for Long-Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft
Boeing
Tue, 18 Apr 2006, 00:10


ST. LOUIS: A team led by Boeing today submitted its proposal to develop and deliver eight long-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare aircraft to the Indian navy.

Boeing is offering a variant of its P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft, which is currently in development for the U.S. Navy. The proposed aircraft would provide India with a significantly improved maritime patrol and reconnaissance capability.

"We have proposed a unique system that will enhance the capability of the Indian navy in anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare," said Rick Buck, Boeing program manager for P-8A international programs. "The increased range, speed, radius of action and advanced combat power inherent in our 21st century solution will enable the Indian navy to fully patrol and influence events in its entire operational region. Additionally, the commonality inherent in our solution will greatly enhance the interoperability and supportability objectives publicly supported by both the U.S. and Indian navies."

Boeing is the prime contractor and systems integrator for the U.S. Navy's P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft. The Boeing team includes CFM, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and Smiths. The U.S. Navy plans to purchase 108 aircraft, with deliveries beginning in 2009.

Boeing's proposal includes the development of a unique Indian navy P-8 configuration, significant participation for Indian industry, test and certification activities, and eight aircraft delivered over a four-year period.

Under the request for proposal, bids were to be submitted by April 13, 2006, with first deliveries occurring within 48 months of the contract award.

A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $30.8 billion business. It provides network-centric system solutions to its global military, government and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer and a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in sustainment solutions and launch services.

 

[Zeeshan S.]

The planned intial operational capability of this plane is no less than 2013 in U.S air force then it will take sometime for U.S to start the full production and induct it in its own fleet first, then India will get the planes some where around 2015-2018. So yeah we have time, unless India boosts the project and aims to get it early.

The plane is not bad, it is very comparable to P-3C Orions when they came out latest at that time, this plane will take the side of P-3C Orions as the JSF will take the side of F-16s/F-18s.

 

[RAPTOR]

The planned intial operational capability of this plane is no less than 2013 in U.S air force then it will take sometime for U.S to start the full production and induct it in its own fleet first, then India will get the planes some where around 2015-2018. So yeah we have time, unless India boosts the project and aims to get it early.

The plane is not bad, it is very comparable to P-3C Orions when they came out latest at that time, this plane will take the side of P-3C Orions as the JSF will take the side of F-16s/F-18s.

What do you mean take the side of this and take the side of that?

The P-8 is at least a GENERATION above the P3C orions! Its based on a 737 Jet platform. Also read the article, BOEING offered it, NOT the US government.

 

[Spring Onion]

What do you mean take the side of this and take the side of that?

The P-8 is at least a GENERATION above the P3C orions! Its based on a 737 Jet platform. Also read the article, BOEING offered it, NOT the US government.

wow Raport u can talk sensable man means u r just stiring them up thts good keep it up lol

 

[Neo]

The planned intial operational capability of this plane is no less than 2013 in U.S air force then it will take sometime for U.S to start the full production and induct it in its own fleet first, then India will get the planes some where around 2015-2018. So yeah we have time, unless India boosts the project and aims to get it early.

The plane is not bad, it is very comparable to P-3C Orions when they came out latest at that time, this plane will take the side of P-3C Orions as the JSF will take the side of F-16s/F-18s.

What???
P-8 is a totally new platform dude, its based on B-737 airframe and has technical edge to be called best ASW, EW, MP, ECM, Elint and MR aircraft. Compare it to the S-3 Viking or the Prowler if you like but noway its in the league of the Orien. Its generations ahead!!!

 

[Zeeshan S.]

I know what i am trying to say is that P-8s will be what P-3s once was! I was giving an example like how the JSFs will replace F-16s and F-18s, just like how P-3s will be replaced by P-8s.

 

[RAPTOR]

What???
P-8 is a totally new platform dude, its based on B-737 airframe and has technical edge to be called best ASW, EW, MP, ECM, Elint and MR aircraft. Compare it to the S-3 Viking or the Prowler if you like but noway its in the league of the Orien. Its generations ahead!!!

My thoughts exactly, i dont think he knows what hes talking about.
P-8 is the most advanced ASW platform out there . How does the P3C compare to the Nimrod? and i believe the Orions being upgraded for Taiwan are going to be far more advanced than what is being given to Pakistan. I'll try to find the Link and post it on here.

 

[Neo]

I know what i am trying to say is that P-8s will be what P-3s once was! I was giving an example like how the JSFs will replace F-16s and F-18s, just like how P-3s will be replaced by P-8s.

Ok, thanks for elabortating.

 

[Neo]

My thoughts exactly, i dont think he knows what hes talking about.
P-8 is the most advanced ASW platform out there . How does the P3C compare to the Nimrod? and i believe the Orions being upgraded for Taiwan are going to be far more advanced than what is being given to Pakistan. I'll try to find the Link and post it on here.

Pleaso do update us on the P-8, its systems and capabilities.
I was already doing some research on janes defence.

 

[RAPTOR]

Pleaso do update us on the P-8, its systems and capabilities.
I was already doing some research on janes defence.

Here you go Neo..enter the Matrix


P-8A - MULTI-MISSION MARITIME AIRCRAFT (MMA), USA

In June 2004, the United States Navy announced the selection of the Boeing Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft, 737 MMA, and awarded a contract to Boeing for the System Development and Demonstration phase of the program for the US Navy's next generation maritime surveillance aircraft. The aircraft was given the designation P-8A in March 2005. It is planned that up to 108 P-8A MMA aircraft are to be purchased by the Navy to replace the fleet of 196 P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft which are approaching the end of operational life.
The US Navy started a two-year requirement study in 1997 for the replacement of the navy's P-3C Orion, and the Defense Acquisition Board initiated a number of concept studies during the period 2000 to 2002. An assessment of the proposals by the USN led to contracts being placed on Boeing and on Lockheed Martin in 2002 for the Component Advanced Development phase. Boeing submitted proposals based on the 737-700 aircraft and Lockheed Martin's proposal was based on the Orion 21, a new version of the P3. The industrial team led by Boeing includes Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and Smiths Industries.
Boeing constructed a 737 BBJ2 (Boeing Business Jet) technology demonstrator aircraft to demonstrate the aircraft and on-board systems capabilities. Two functional mission system consoles were installed on the aircraft. In December 2003, the aircraft completed a tour of US Navy bases and Naval Air Stations in Brunswick, Maine, Jacksonville, Florida, Norfolk, Virginia, Kaneohe, Hawaii, and Whidbey Island, Washington. The demonstrations included maximum power take-off and climb to 12,500m (41,000ft), manual reversion manoeuvres with no hydraulics, maximum rate of descent at over 3,050m/min (10,000ft/min), tactical manoeuvres at an altitude of 200ft, simulated single engine manoeuvres and performance landing achieving a stopping distance of less than 610m (2,000ft).
The selection of the Boeing 737 MMA was announced in July 2004 with the contract award covering the manufacture of five trial aircraft over the next eight years. One aircraft each is to be allocated for airworthiness tests, static tests and fatigue tests, and two aircraft for testing the mission systems.
The Preliminary Design Review (PDR) was successfully completed in November 2005. Critical Design Review is planned for early 2007. Initial low rate production is scheduled to start in 2008 and full scale production, at a rate of 12 to 18 aircraft per year, in 2012. The planned Initial Operational Capability (IOC) date is 2013.
DESIGN

The aircraft design is based on the proven fuselage of the 737-800 and the wings of the 737-900. The P-8A aircraft has increased gross weight capability compared to the 737-800.
In June 2005, Boeing announced that the design of the P-8A's wingtips has been changed from the blended winglet to a backswept wingtip.
The internal weapons bay is installed beneath the forward section of the fuselage. The 737-900-style wings are constructed with hardpoints for carrying air-to-surface missiles.
The 737 MMA will be built at the Boeing production facility in Renton, Washington. The 737 fuselage will be built in Wichita, Kansas, then transferred to Renton where all the unique 737 MMA aircraft structural features will be incorporated in sequence during fabrication and assembly. The quality and performance acceptance flight testing of the aircraft will be conducted from Renton Field and final installations and checkout of the mission system and special flight test instrumentation will be conducted at the Boeing Field. The aircraft will then ferry to Naval Air Station at Patuxent River, Maryland, for flight test.
COCKPIT

The flight management system and the stores management system has been developed by Smiths Aerospace. The Smiths Aerospace flight management system is based on an integrated open architecture will be compatible with the installation of future upgrade systems.
MISSION PAYLOAD

The cabin is fitted with up to seven operator consoles.
Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems in Baltimore has developed the aircraft's electro-optical and infrared sensors.
The electronic warfare suite includes a Raytheon towed decoy, a Northrop Grumman directional infrared countermeasures (DIRCM) set and Northrop Grumman electronic support measures (ESM).
The aircraft is equipped with the upgraded APS-137D(V)5 maritime surveillance radar and signal intelligence SIGINT system developed by Raytheon. The APS-137 radar is installed on the enlarged nose fairing. The APS-137D(V)5 radar provides Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) mode capability for imaging, detection, classification and identification of stationary ships and small vessels and for coastal and overland surveillance, and high resolution Imaging Synthetic Aperture Radar (ISAR) mode for imaging, detection, classification and tracking of surfaced submarines and small, fast moving vessels that operate in coastal waters. The SAR provides multiple resolution strip map and spot SAR operation, and allows high resolution for target identification, battle damage assessment and for weapons targeting. Periscope detection uses high scan speeds, high pulse repetition frequency, high resolution mode with advanced sea clutter rejection.
Raytheon is offering the new Global Positioning System Anti-Jam, Integrated Friend or Foe and Towed Decoy Self Protection suites along with a Broadcast Information System (BIS) and secure UHF satellite communications.
The P-8A will also be fitted with the CAE Advanced Integrated Magnetic Anomaly Detection (MAD) System.
The aircraft will carry a rotary sonobuoy launcher with pneumatic ejection, being developed by EDO Corporation.
The data links are being developed by Northrop Grumman Information Technology Division in Herndon, Virginia,
WEAPONS

The integral bomb bay will carry free fall bombs, Raytheon Mark 54 torpedoes and depth charges. Air-to-surface missiles will be installed on the underwing hardpoints.
PERFORMANCE
The aircraft can cruise at high altitude at nearly 926km/hr (500 knots) and loiter at a speed of 333km/hr (180 knots) over the sea at a low altitude of 60m.
ENGINES

The aircraft has two CFM International CFM56-7B27A high-bypass turbofan engines, each rated at 120kN. The same model CFM56-7 engines power the Boeing 737 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) Aircraft, in production for Australia and Turkey, and the US Navy's C-40 Clipper transport. The engine has logged more than 30 million flight hours and maintains a proven high reliability figure of merit of 0.003% in-flight shut down rate per 1,000 hours of flight.
Additional fuel tanks are installed in the aft baggage hold providing a total maximum fuel capacity of 34,096kg.

:thumbsup:

 

[Neo]

Thanks, thats what I was looking for man! :thumbsup:
Seems like an impressive bird indeed!

 

[Zeeshan S.]

Aside from the article RAPTOR could you tell me the advantages of P-8? What is so different about P-3 and P-8 aircrafts?

 

[desimorty]

P-8 is 737 aircraft with majour modifications for langer ranged patrols. They'll enter service 2012-2015. More advanced. The USN was really looking forward to Nimorads but were pressured into an American answer for maritime ASW aircraft.

 

[SMC]

Guys I will not tolerate posting non Pakistani stuff in the forums that are suppose to have topics about Pakistan military stuff only.

 

[Bull]

Guys I will not tolerate posting non Pakistani stuff in the forums that are suppose to have topics about Pakistan military stuff only.

But this is a russian and south asian section, right???