India moved upgraded Mig 29 on forward airbase

[Hellfire]

You are a big fool. You do not even know how to calculate the impact of weapon systems on warfare. India and Pakistan are neighbour states. Our missiles are deployed right on the border.

Very interesting appraisal indeed! Sorry, I find it ticklish.

If you shoot our aircraft one meter inside our territory or you shoot it 400 km in our territory, war will start in any case. Once it is war then we will shoot you with every weapon we have in our arsenal (including nukes).

Read your own statement as quoted above

Fcking with a nuclear country is not easy. You think you can impress and cow-down PAF with these toys ? and you think Pakistan will sit idle? Before your Meteors and S400s arrive Pakistan will have HQ9 and PL15s in its arsenal. We are a shallow country geographically and we are well aware of our weaknesses but imagine if 400 km of air space of India is denied it will cripple your dreams of a shiny India for ever, so trust me your country will never initiate a full-scale-war against Pakistan. The only option left with India is to go for terrorist activities and propaganda, which you are already doing to the fullest. So relax we are neither worried nor intimidated by these new toys of yours. We know how to deal with BANYA in these last 72 years.

Like I said, read your first line ... slowly ... again.

 

[BATMAN]

You do realize mobilisations cost money? I agree .. let us keep doing the same every other year for prolonged periods ... can your economy sustain it?

Agree there's a cost involved, but thanks Lord due to the experience with Pervez Musharraf. Indians would not go beyond deployment and this is now known to every kid in Pakistan.... this is why after departure of Pervez Musharraf PA don't believe in counter deployment.
I.. on the other hand believe Bharat is a cancer not only for Pakistan but for the world.
It's moral obligation of PA to save the world from Bharti mentality, which is inhuman.

 

[Hellfire]

Agree there's a cost involved, but thanks Lord due to the experience with Pervez Musharraf. Indians would not go beyond deployment and this is now known to every kid in Pakistan.... this is why after departure of Pervez Musharraf PA don't believe in counter deployment.
I.. on the other hand don't believe Bharat is a cancer not only for Pakistan but for the world.
It's moral obligation of PA to save the world from Bharti mentality, which is inhuman.

I understand the inherent need to justify your nation's existence. A great undertaking - truly noble. Am sure Nishan-e-Haider will soon be given to Talibanis and Kashmiri Militants? Please do highlight their sacrifices in your great quest to protect the world

 

[Osiris]

Moreover India is offensive, we are defensive, losses on offensive side are ten times more. India wont be able to take these losses. Pakistan will turn the area into graveyard of Indian army. They know it, that's why they have not attacked us even after Kargil issue, mumbai attacks, national assembly attacks, Uri attack and so many other occasions. This independence is not provided in charity, there are lot of sacrifices pf Pakistani nation behind it.

Last time...India went on offensive was during 71 was thereafter in 84 ..you want compare Indian losses with Pakistani losses?

 

[Suriya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1025664078520377344

 

[Pakistani Aircraft]

What if someone from those marching folks actually blows the horn?

Like during the 10-month long stand off in 2002? That was truly shock and awe demonstrated by India.

 

[Hayreddin]

I think India will now have the capability to achieve total air superiority in just 72 hours maximum

We are reaching a level of expenditure and technology thst Pakistan will not match for long long time.

Pakistanis tiny gdp and lack of economic development is beginning to create huge military gap in conventional war making capability

U "think" wrong . " 72 hrs max n air superiority ..... : .indians and their bollywood dreams .
If u know even basics of warefare strategy , calculating average ratio of losing assets in offense , u wld not have said this . With almost 350 capable jets( su30, mig29 , mirage 2000) against 200 paf jets(f16 , jf17 ) plus sam batteries .....and even iaf cant deploy all of its assets on pak border .
I give u a glimpse if Indians do a mistake of offense which they wont i know . In first 72 hrs of offense iaf will loose most of its air superiority jets .in next 72 hrs paf will turn the table in their favor . Targeted attacks on forward bases and air defenses of india . And dont underestimate isi survillance behind enemy lines and never underestimate pakistan " targetted" attack capability .
And it will be india running for nuclear option first not pakistan as we can beat the hell out of u guys in conventional warfare .

 

[Storm Force]

U "think" wrong . " 72 hrs max n air superiority ..... : .indians and their bollywood dreams .
If u know even basics of warefare strategy , calculating average ratio of losing assets in offense , u wld not have said this . With almost 350 capable jets( su30, mig29 , mirage 2000) against 200 paf jets(f16 , jf17 ) plus sam batteries .....and even iaf cant deploy all of its assets on pak border .
I give u a glimpse if Indians do a mistake of offense which they wont i know . In first 72 hrs of offense iaf will loose most of its air superiority jets .in next 72 hrs paf will turn the table in their favor . Targeted attacks on forward bases and air defenses of india . And dont underestimate isi survillance behind enemy lines and never underestimate pakistan " targetted" attack capability .
And it will be india running for nuclear option first not pakistan as we can beat the hell out of u guys in conventional warfare .

Not with the low cost limited range equipment you field now

In your entire arsenal the only credible military asset you have is f16 and they will be sanctioned .

You have No strike capability to hurt a giant landscape like Indian major cities and majority of its military and industrial infrastructure is too far for your short legged air fforce.

Your navy is coastal force and your relying on nuclear black mail and defense posture of massive infantry army Thst lacks cutting edge doctrine of a fast moving army full of ifv helicopters special forces etc .

Finally you financially can't sustain a full.scale war against relative massive country like India

 

[BATMAN]

In your entire arsenal the only credible military asset you have is f16 and they will be sanctioned .

Red flag where Indian SU participated endorse what you said.
Pakistani F16 were always sanctioned nothing new there.
This is exactly why your airforce had free hand during Kargil, but still left behind PoW.

 

[Basel]

You do realize mobilisations cost money? I agree .. let us keep doing the same every other year for prolonged periods ... can your economy sustain it?




I agree. On the other hand, the impact is significant if you do take into account the existing surveillance capability of India into your airspace. Many keyboard warriors here certainly fail to factor in the fact that our capability to look into your airspace is quite .. unsettling?

The rest is a matter of using your capabilities to act after those capabilities perform their tasks. This is where the S-400 may be a new toy that may force more calculations into your planning.



I was on Planet Mars ..... 4 legged humans are there ....

Now I am the horse ...

PAF since sometime is investing into EW capabilities as they know how important those will be in any future conflict also standoff capabilities are being improved since 90s also ARM capability is being updated too, Hatf-VIII is one important weapon which will be used to hit Indian air defence.

 

[Hamza913]

I think India will now have the capability to achieve total air superiority in just 72 hours maximum

 

[Hayreddin]

Not with the low cost limited range equipment you field now

In your entire arsenal the only credible military asset you have is f16 and they will be sanctioned .

You have No strike capability to hurt a giant landscape like Indian major cities and majority of its military and industrial infrastructure is too far for your short legged air fforce.

Your navy is coastal force and your relying on nuclear black mail and defense posture of massive infantry army Thst lacks cutting edge doctrine of a fast moving army full of ifv helicopters special forces etc .

Finally you financially can't sustain a full.scale war against relative massive country like India

Lets exclude nuclear option and talk abt conventional war . War is all abt tactics and strategy , secret weaponery and surprises . Both side wld have secret military hardware to surprise opponents .
Yes PAF dont have deep strike capability but we got one of the best missile arsenal .No part of india would be safe and u cant interxept all of them. PAF with their air assets can put serious dent to anything in 500 km range .
Well fact is fact ur navy is bigger n stronger but its not 1971 . Naval blockade is impossible . We can create no warship zone in sea upto 1500 km , again we got missiles public and also behind the curtain capability .
Lengthy wars need continuous supplies and men power . Pakistan fullfill almost 80 % of its defence requirements within country and india imports more thn 70 % of its defence requirements. Our supplier is our neighbour with land and air route . Means continous logistics .we got 1 + million trained tribemen available on short notice , can be used as lethal infantry and gurella warefare .
Economy : We got nothing to loose , we can get free oil supply from SA . But india cant afford a lengthy war economically . We got battle hardened infantry , incase of lengthy war indian army will be exhausted and u will loose kashmir and siachen . As infantry warfare is dominant in tht area .
Whether u like it or not its not our hope or expections , China will jump in any indo pak war , they wont let indians to cross red line and even not let pakistan cross it . Geopolitical scenerio is completly changed now .

 

[YeBeWarned]

realistically, can u defend Pakistan in the presence of Rafael and now S400?

IAF does not have Rafale , plus when they get which is around 2020-2022 they won't just send them to attack Pakistan, it will take few more years to build war strategies and strike training before they have enough confidence to bring them into WAR, and second thing , they just sign a contract of S-400 , again the deliveries are not starting from next month or week , it will take at least 2 years before s400 Joins IA .

 

[Umair Nawaz]

IAF does not have Rafale , plus when they get which is around 2020-2022 they won't just send them to attack Pakistan, it will take few more years to build war strategies and strike training before they have enough confidence to bring them into WAR, and second thing , they just sign a contract of S-400 , again the deliveries are not starting from next month or week , it will take at least 2 years before s400 Joins IA .

they r getting both these systems next year.

 

[Hayreddin]

S400 is lethal but not invincibile .
Yes installment of such system near pak border will create same imbalanced scenerio as it was created after indian nuclear explosion .
To balance the equation we need to go for s400 or pac3 with aggressive diplomacy and we have to overcome issue of finance by any mean .
Beside that countering s400 is not impossible.