India may end support to Palestine at U.N.

[SrNair]

We are never ever a player in middle east...India is a non existent player on middle east...So it does not matter what India stands for..And again, as i said earlier, if Palestine does not support Kashmir issue with Indian stand, then Indian is not any way obliged to support them..

There are dozens of Indian expats in the middle east and I have no problem with India supporting Israel over Palestine but calling Palestinians terrorists is over the top. The children have recently been brutally murdered by the IDF and I won't tolerate this. If agent smith wants to play that way, i'll play along and give him a taste of his medicine.



Calling Palestinians terrorists is fine? He went over the line. He should have been diplomatic about it. Instead he made a hateful comment. And, I retaliated. I'm as offended as you are.[/QUOTE]

Just report such moronic posts and poster.
Dont insult an entire nation and people because of some idiots.We cant agree to the IDF actions .

Inconsequential maybe, but I find it kind of surprising. India has always taken pride in being "Queen of the Third World" and the axis of NAM. Now it seems its eagerly shedding these former titles in order to become the "Lapdog of the First World" (but certainly not a member ). Even some of US' most subservient allies (UK, France) have the backbone to support Palestinian statehood.

Sorry .We are a small nation with insignificant capabilities and resources.Leave us alone.

 

[Kloitra]

Yes, but think about it - India with largest Muslim population in the world for decades on was never accepted in the OIC. The very first attempt, which initially King Faisal and the Jordanian King thought made sense for India, was thwarted at the request of Yahya Khan.

They did not stop just there, they permanently banished India from joining the OIC.

And further down the course of time, we have always seen how they quickly unite against India on the matters of Kashmir. And Kashmir is just one matter... if we go into details, numerous of the religious and ethnic riots that took place in India can very easily be traced to these very countries whom we have helped in their support for Palestine.

So what has India really gained by supporting Palestine or even being absent from such voting?

On the other hand, Israel has helped us time again - despite the fact that India refused to recognize the Israeli state when it came into being - India did that within 3-4 years after the Jews got nearly wiped out from this planet.

If this is not the time for India to stand straight, then this country will never develop a backbone and will keep suffering at the hands of extremists while trying to be internationally politically correct.

This is not a fault of Palestinians. How have they worked against India? Israel doesn't have any problem with diplomatic support or whatever aid India gives to Palestine. Why change that? Just because bunch of other countries don't want India to join there group?

Mate this happened in Pakistan and by doing so he added fire to the fuel. It might not have been his intention, but in the end the outcome was that people took it direct support.

That would not be right reason to change the stance in UN.

 

[saiyan0321]

Welcome to international politics. it is run not with emotions but with advantages and effects of moves. Its obvious that the call to have palestine being made into a full state outs israels knickers in a twist so why would india who is one of israels closest friends, has mass advantages in having a secure and strong relationship with them, sour those relations just to create a state of palestine who is a majority muslim country and may not harbor such positive and great feelings towards india and to top it off indias rival has been supporting palestine from the start and has also supported its freedom fighters and palestine will be much closer to pakistan than to india.

So why would india sour those relations with israel to just gain some morality points?

As far as what this move will do to india. well nothing and if anything they can wave it infront of israel saying that we are your true friends who stood by you even though the world stood against you in this matter so lets have better and more stronger relations for the future.

 

[greatone]

They did not stop just there, they permanently banished India from joining the OIC.
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Not really.While it is true that India was denied membership earlier but later OIC realized that they had zero credibility as representative of Muslim world if it did not include 200 million odd Indian Muslims and they tried to correct it by repeatedly asking India to join.

But India, sensibly, has learnt from its past mistake and declined to join for exactly the same reason.

Without India, OIC can not claim to be representative of world's Muslims/

 

[Kaniska]

We are never ever a player in middle east...India is a non existent player on middle east...So it does not matter what India stands for..And again, as i said earlier, if Palestine does not support Kashmir issue with Indian stand, then Indian is not any way obliged to support them..

There are dozens of Indian expats in the middle east and I have no problem with India supporting Israel over Palestine but calling Palestinians terrorists is over the top. The children have recently been brutally murdered by the IDF and I won't tolerate this. If agent smith wants to play that way, i'll play along and give him a taste of his medicine.



Calling Palestinians terrorists is fine? He went over the line. He should have been diplomatic about it. Instead he made a hateful comment. And, I retaliated. I'm as offended as you are.[/QUOTE]

Calling Palestine a Terrorist?...Are you crazy?...No one is ever called them like that...If any one has said like that they are not truly presenting stand of India...India may feel for people of Palestine, but if we do not get support from your people in Kashmir issue, then India's stand will be reciprocated politically

 

[Kompromat]

Inconsequential maybe, but I find it kind of surprising. India has always taken pride in being "Queen of the Third World" and the axis of NAM. Now it seems its eagerly shedding these former titles in order to become the "Lapdog of the First World" (but certainly not a member ). Even some of US' most subservient allies (UK, France) have the backbone to support Palestinian statehood.

I am just excited at the prospect of the entire Arab and Muslim world getting to see India's real face.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Then get the F out of the middle east and go back to your cow piss curry country.

Ole le le we have got a Turkish bada$$ here.The reality is that your're a nobody from a puny country called Turkey(btw is it a bird or a country!!).

 

[deadmau5e]

There are dozens of Indian expats in the middle east and I have no problem with India supporting Israel over Palestine but calling Palestinians terrorists is over the top. The children have recently been brutally murdered by the IDF and I won't tolerate this. If agent smith wants to play that way, i'll play along and give him a taste of his medicine.



Calling Palestinians terrorists is fine? He went over the line. He should have been diplomatic about it. Instead he made a hateful comment. And, I retaliated. I'm as offended as you are.

Calling Palestine a Terrorist?...Are you crazy?...No one is ever called them like that...If any one has said like that they are not truly presenting stand of India...India may feel for people of Palestine, but if we do not get support from your people in Kashmir issue, then India's stand will be reciprocated politically[/QUOTE]

India people have never supported the Palestinian terrorists

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There are dozens of Indian expats in the middle east and I have no problem with India supporting Israel over Palestine but calling Palestinians terrorists is over the top. The children have recently been brutally murdered by the IDF and I won't tolerate this. If agent smith wants to play that way, i'll play along and give him a taste of his medicine.



Calling Palestinians terrorists is fine? He went over the line. He should have been diplomatic about it. Instead he made a hateful comment. And, I retaliated. I'm as offended as you are.

Calling Palestine a Terrorist?...Are you crazy?...No one is ever called them like that...If any one has said like that they are not truly presenting stand of India...India may feel for people of Palestine, but if we do not get support from your people in Kashmir issue, then India's stand will be reciprocated politically[/QUOTE]

I don't care which side you guys as long as you are being diplomatic. No need for hateful comments or I'll do the same.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

India make Mandela cry.

 

[Kaniska]

I am just excited at the prospect of the entire Arab and Muslim world getting to see India's real face.

Its nothing new, if also any point of time Arab world supported India, it is because of their own interest and benifit ..Not because to benifit India...So as long as India provides such benifit to Arab world, they will be with India otherwise they will ditch us...It does not matter wheather we support Palestine or not....

Calling Palestine a Terrorist?...Are you crazy?...No one is ever called them like that...If any one has said like that they are not truly presenting stand of India...India may feel for people of Palestine, but if we do not get support from your people in Kashmir issue, then India's stand will be reciprocated politically

Calling Palestine a Terrorist?...Are you crazy?...No one is ever called them like that...If any one has said like that they are not truly presenting stand of India...India may feel for people of Palestine, but if we do not get support from your people in Kashmir issue, then India's stand will be reciprocated politically[/QUOTE]

I don't care which side you guys as long as you are being diplomatic. No need for hateful comments or I'll do the same.[/QUOTE]


Agree with you...Report about the poster who used insulting language for Palestne people...It is not stand of majority Indian people..

 

[Not Sure]

Not really.While it is true that India was denied membership earlier but later OIC realized that they had zero credibility as representative of Muslim world if it did not include 200 million odd Indian Muslims and they tried to correct it by repeatedly asking India to join.

But India, sensibly, has learnt from its past mistake and declined to join for exactly the same reason.

Without India, OIC can not claim to be representative of world's Muslims/

This is how the banishment began...

King Hussein (Jordanian King to Yahya Khan) then said, "Sir, I'm here with a profound apology from King Faisal, King Hassan and from me. We created this unfortunate fiasco without realizing what we were getting into. In fact, I must admit we were conned into this by the crafty Indian ambassador to Morocco. It was not until we read in this morning's newspapers the in-depth analysis and the far reaching implications and ramifications our decision would have on Pakistan. We are, therefore, sorry for the anxieties we've caused you. However, to make amends King Hassan, in his capacity as the chairman of Islamic Conference has decided to withdraw the invitation extended to Indians and bar the Indian delegation from entering Morocco. He'll declare the Indian ambassador persona non-grata, for overstepping his representation as mandated by Geneva Conventions and for interfering and misguiding members of the conference."

"Sir, we hope these steps would vindicate the correct and resolute stance you have taken. In view of this and the fact that the whole world is focused on this First Islamic Summit, I'm here to request you to please reconsider your decision to return to Pakistan."


Despite its Muslim population, India is not even allowed an observer status, any surprises?

The countries in blue are the banished countries - India, Israel, and the Philipines.


Try not to be an apologist.

 

[Aepsilons]

@The Huskar ,

There was an article published by The Diplomat several months ago on this. Do check it out:

Indo-Israeli Relations Set to Improve | The Diplomat

 

[greatone]

This is how the banishment began...

King Hussein (Jordanian King to Yahya Khan) then said, "Sir, I'm here with a profound apology from King Faisal, King Hassan and from me. We created this unfortunate fiasco without realizing what we were getting into. In fact, I must admit we were conned into this by the crafty Indian ambassador to Morocco. It was not until we read in this morning's newspapers the in-depth analysis and the far reaching implications and ramifications our decision would have on Pakistan. We are, therefore, sorry for the anxieties we've caused you. However, to make amends King Hassan, in his capacity as the chairman of Islamic Conference has decided to withdraw the invitation extended to Indians and bar the Indian delegation from entering Morocco. He'll declare the Indian ambassador persona non-grata, for overstepping his representation as mandated by Geneva Conventions and for interfering and misguiding members of the conference."

"Sir, we hope these steps would vindicate the correct and resolute stance you have taken. In view of this and the fact that the whole world is focused on this First Islamic Summit, I'm here to request you to please reconsider your decision to return to Pakistan."


Despite its Muslim population, India is not even allowed an observer status, any surprises?

The countries in blue are the banished countries - India, Israel, and the Philipines.


Try not to be an apologist.

Listen dude how can they banish India when India doesn't want to join OIC in the first place ?

Try to be correct before you try to be a smart *** next time.

 

[Aepsilons]

Cultural or historical ties don't guide Indo-Israeli relationship (seriously? you had to copy-paste all that from wiki) . The relationship is very pragmatic. We have demand for so and so stuff and Israel has the means to fulfill such demand. Common enemy (terrorists) is an added bonus (which unfortunately leads many Indians to believe in Indo-Israel bhai bhai/ India should deal with terrorist like Israel and so on). Support to Palestine may have remained if we hadn't been snubbed by OIC, but anyway, what India does on this issue of little consequence - given India's present status in global/ME politics. Better to remove the thorn in India-Israel relation.

The relationship between nations is one touches on various axes and tho cultural and historical ties do not dominate the relationship parameters, it does illustrate a wider milieu, which I was trying to explain in my post. Anyways, if you would like to read more on it, here is the reference:

Singh, M. C. (2012). Indians and Israelis: Beyond Strategic Partnerships. Israel Studies, 17(3), 22-44.

 

[deadmau5e]

@Kaniska The poster's fine. Being pro-Israeli is fine with me. It's his hateful statement about Palestinians that upset me especially after what happened to them. I apologize for being irrational and offensive. I got sentimental.