Isn't the karakoram k8 an intermediate trainer, while hawk is an advanced/LIFT trainer? Does PAF use the K8 for advanced training? I thought PAF uses something else for advanced training, and those are going to be replaced in the future?
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Isn't the karakoram k8 an intermediate trainer, while hawk is an advanced/LIFT trainer? Does PAF use the K8 for advanced training? I thought PAF uses something else for advanced training, and those are going to be replaced in the future?
HAWK vs K8
Crew: 2 vs 2
Empty weight: 4,480 kg (9,880 lb) vs 2,687 kg (5,924 lb)
Useful load: 3,000 kg (6,600 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 9,100 kg (20,000 lb) vs 4,330 kg (9,546 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Rolls-Royce Adour Mk. 951 turbofan with FADEC, 29 kN (6,500 lbf) 29 kN vs 1 × Garrett TFE731-2A-2A turbofan, 16.01 kN (3,600 lb)
Maximum speed: Mach 0.84 (1,028 km/h, 638 mph) at altitude vs Mach 0.75 (800 km/h, 498 mph)
Range: 2,520 km (1,360 NM, 1,565 mi) vs 2,250 km (1,398 mi)
Service ceiling: 13,565 m (44,500 ft) vs 13,000 m (42,651 ft)
Rate of climb: 47 m/s (9,300 ft/min) vs 32 m/s
Thrust/weight: 0.65 vs ?
Max. airframe load factor: ? vs +7.33 g / -3.0 g
Weapon: 1× 30 mm ADEN cannon, in centreline pod vs 1× 23 mm cannon pod (mounted on centreline hardpoint),
Up to 6,800 lb (3,085 kg) of weapons on five hardpoints, vs total capacity 1,000 kg (2,205 lb) external fuel and ordnance
do you meanKeep in mind that we already have Hawk and so it does not make sense to have K8, even if it was little superior.
I looked at K8 and found it to be Chinese, another reason not to buy. I also do not think China is making best jets yet. They are getting their but, I will always Rank, US, Russia and EU Ahead of themUS, Russia and EU Ahead of them.
I am repeating one of my questions i asked in some other Hawk thread but is it true that these expensive birds will find no use in a war scenario??
I don't understand what you are trying to say.Thank you..
This provides a good comparison that the hawk does have an advantage in terms of airframe performance. With the ability to carry more.
However in Avionics simulation.. the K-8P has the software to simulate the launching of Basic A2A and A2G weaponry.
Where it loses out on simulation capability is its inability to simulate Sensor based threats of SAM sites, radars etc.
But then again.. that is what an extra $8-9 million gets you.
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
JL-8 is designed to have limited capability to deliver air-to-ground weapons, the first rocket attack practice was only completed in May 2011.
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HAWK
Up to 6,800 lb (3,085 kg) of weapons on five hardpoints, including 4× AIM-9 Sidewinder or ASRAAM on wing pylons and wingtip rails,1,500 lb (680 kg), limited to one centreline and two wing pylons (Hawk T1)
Apart from that
Hawk was designed to be manoeuvrable and can reach Mach 0.88 in level flight and Mach 1.15 in a dive, thus allowing trainees to experience transonic flight before advancing to a supersonic trainer.
The airframe is very durable and strong, stressed for +9 g, the normal limit in RAF service is +7.5/-4 g.