India Lets U.S. Down on Iran

[IndoUS]

It seems the nuclear deal is stalled and the US is still smarting over the jet fighter deal that didn't happen .... and now this. US patience must be at breaking point over this latest slap in the face.

Its not stalled, we wanted the nuclear deal so we could access fuel from other countries and we got that France, Russia and other countries are making Nuclear power plants in India and we have got what we wanted it is just US that didn't get any piece of the pie. As for the fighter jet deal, it was decided by the IAF and the F/A-18 didn't meet the requirement that were set forth. If we anted to impress anyone we could have gone for Russia which is much more reliable. The US has gotten other deals so I don't see how this will affect them.

 

[jbond197]

Why not?

India lets US down indirectly helps China.

Let me also tell you a fact whether you like it or not. China and India will be inseparable for both of their future.

That's your Chinese logic and I don't want to discuss on that line as it has nothing to do with topic..

 

[IndoUS]

Why not?

India lets US down indirectly helps China.

Let me also tell you a fact whether you like it or not. China and India will be inseparable for both of their future, whether as enemies or friends.

How did we help China?? China cut the oil supply even before India said or did anything. We didn't force them do anything it was their choice now they have restarted the supply out of their own interest. Call it what you want we are not here please the US, India has more pressing concerns, one of which is development and it can't be done without oil.

 

[jbond197]

Its not stalled, we wanted the nuclear deal so we could access fuel from other countries and we got that France, Russia and other countries are making Nuclear power plants in India and we have got what we wanted it is just US that didn't get any piece of the pie. As for the fighter jet deal, it was decided by the IAF and the F/A-18 didn't meet the requirement that were set forth. If we anted to impress anyone we could have gone for Russia which is much more reliable. The US has gotten other deals so I don't see how this will affect them.

In a relation, at times you reach a point when you come across certain irritants but that exactly is not the end of relationship.. Two mature parties are involved and each can see what's good for them..

 

[longyi]

How did we help China?? China cut the oil supply even before India said or did anything. We didn't force them do anything it was their choice now they have restarted the supply out of their own interest. Call it what you want we are not here please the US, India has more pressing concerns, one of which is development and it can't be done without oil.

Read my previous post.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Its not stalled, we wanted the nuclear deal so we could access fuel from other countries and we got that France, Russia and other countries are making Nuclear power plants in India and we have got what we wanted it is just US that didn't get any piece of the pie. As for the fighter jet deal, it was decided by the IAF and the F/A-18 didn't meet the requirement that were set forth. If we anted to impress anyone we could have gone for Russia which is much more reliable. The US has gotten other deals so I don't see how this will affect them.

I really don't think the Americans see it that way .......

 

[S10]

i hope the americans punish the indians for not following the american lead.

what gives india the right to disobey american orders?

india has and will always be a puppet state of the western world, nothing more, nothing less.
india served the british empire, now its time to serve the american empire.

the US expects its subservient lapdogs to follow its lead, india just made its master very angry.
india has and should not be allowed an independent foreign policy. hope the americans keeps india under their control just like how they did to japan.

there are only 3 big countries with an independent foreign policy, US, china and russia.\
the rest of them are just subservient slaves of each of the 3 big powers.

Does an Indian take a crap in your breakfast every morning? So much hate.

 

[1962 spanking]

Does an Indian take a crap in your breakfast every morning? So much hate.

lol.

i dont want india to ever have an independent foreign policy, i want india to be fully under the control of the United States just like japan and south korea.

india is an aggressive state, the more its under american rule, the better off asia will be. america should learn to keep its lapdogs under control.

this world is all about the rivalry between US, china and russia/USSR.
its been this way the entire 20th century and should remain that way.

china, US and russia are the only 3 big countries that matter in world affairs.
the rest are just followers and pawns in the grand chess game between the 3 great powers.

 

[S10]

lol.

i dont want india to ever have an independent foreign policy, i want india to be fully under the control of the United States just like japan and south korea.

india is an aggressive state, the more its under american rule, the better off asia will be. america should learn to keep its lapdogs under control.

this world is all about the rivalry between US, china and russia/USSR.
its been this way the entire 20th century and should remain that way.

china, US and russia are the only 3 big countries that matter in world affairs.
the rest are just followers and pawns in the grand chess game between the 3 great powers.

Judging from your post, I am guessing the Indian guy took a bigger dump than usual this morning.

 

[Zabaniyah]

There’s a larger point here about India’s role in the world. For all the talk about India rising to become a global power, its government doesn’t always act like one. It is all too often focused on its own region but not much beyond it. And, it very seldom provides the kind of concrete leadership on tough issues that is necessary for the smooth functioning of the international system.

India is still far from being a superpower. So one step at a time.

India like China still need that Iranian oil. And convenient due to geography. What do they expect them to do? Fall back on their economic growth just to please Western interests? That's not how things work.

It's rather contradictory. For America, a strong Indian economy is an asset, not a liability. While at the same time they don't want them to buy oil from Iran?

I hope for their sake they do a bit more homework on their diplomacy.

Unfortunately, India has made no corresponding gesture in return for the big vision that Obama and Bush have offered the Indian leadership. It’s time that India speaks much more clearly about the priority it places on its future with the United States. Most importantly, India must begin to provide the kind of visible leadership on difficult issues such as Iran that its many friends in the United States and around the world had expected to see by now.

Fair enough. But Mr. Burns should understand that India never was a major non-NATO ally. It was a Cold War era foe to begin with.

Do not be naive enough to expect things to change fast Mr. Burns like as in:

"Oh look! I am a Democracy, you are a Democracy! Let's be pals! **** China! **** Iran! **** Pakistan! **** etc! Let's go mess them up "

Especially in Asia and the Middle East. These 'quick solutions' only do more harm than good toward US interests. And I often wonder why Americans generally understand so extremely little about other cultures and history. And that isn't surprising coming from a country being descended from and founded by slaves and immigrants. And based on Roman culture and heritage.

First do your homework, and then come lecture the older boys who'd been in this world long before your country even existed.

Iran has important cultural and historical links with South Asia spanning for hundreds and thousands of years.

Again I'd wonder why there'd been so many wars waged by the United States after the end of WWII. Pity

 

[third eye]

In the days when marriages are also not forever I cannot understand why ppl expect international relations to be permanent.

India buys 16 % of all the oil Iran exports ( China buys 20 %).Its getting this oil on Rupee payments, Iran is the closest oil exporting country and Indo Iranian relations are centuries old.

Why should India not cater for itself first ? ... and just where is the 'letting down" ?

It should be " India looks after itself instead of US interests".

 

[russellpeters]

India is still far from being a superpower. So one step at a time.

India like China still need that Iranian oil. And convenient due to geography. What do they expect them to do? Fall back on their economic growth just to please Western interests? That's not how things work.

It's rather contradictory. For America, a strong Indian economy is an asset, not a liability. While at the same time they don't want them to buy oil from Iran?

I hope for their sake they do a bit more homework on their diplomacy.



Fair enough. But Mr. Burns should understand that India never was a major non-NATO ally. It was a Cold War era foe to begin with.

Do not be naive enough to expect things to change fast Mr. Burns like as in:

"Oh look! I am a Democracy, you are a Democracy! Let's be pals! **** China! **** Iran! **** Pakistan! **** etc! Let's go mess them up "

Especially in Asia and the Middle East. These 'quick solutions' only do more harm than good toward US interests. And I often wonder why Americans generally understand so extremely little about other cultures and history. And that isn't surprising coming from a country being descended from and founded by slaves and immigrants. And based on Roman culture and heritage.

First do your homework, and then come lecture the older boys who'd been in this world long before your country even existed.

Iran has important cultural and historical links with South Asia spanning for hundreds and thousands of years.

Again I'd wonder why there'd been so many wars waged by the United States after then end of WWII. Pity

A very mature reply which is much appreciated. India and Persia have existed and had great cultural ties spanning centuries
much before you guys were busy stealing land from the native americans ('indians' lol)..

Our great cultural , historical and lingual ties cannot be overlooked in a hurried up decision making. Plus we need the oil.

Lastly America is not a very trustworthy, stable defence ally. It doesnt hold its sway over the world as its once did. It is time
you stopped dictating terms to people.

 

[third eye]

lol.

i dont want india to ever have an independent foreign policy, i want india to be fully under the control of the United States just like japan and south korea.

india is an aggressive state, the more its under american rule, the better off asia will be. america should learn to keep its lapdogs under control.

this world is all about the rivalry between US, china and russia/USSR.
its been this way the entire 20th century and should remain that way.

china, US and russia are the only 3 big countries that matter in world affairs.
the rest are just followers and pawns in the grand chess game between the 3 great powers.

Even if this was meant to be funny, its in poor taste..indicative of lack of vision.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Even if this was meant to be funny, its in poor taste..indicative of lack of vision.

Actually it's kind of useful for people to push the boundaries of discourse. It doesn't have to be correct.

 

[Android]

How come this troll's post does not get deleted?

because it's from a chinese or a guy hiding behind a chinese flag