India is not a country of rapists: German Ambassador to India Michael Steiner

[Chinese-Dragon]

So?

I realize and then?

I acknowledge?

Then?

After realization, and acknowledgement, comes energy.

Electrical energy.

 

[Screambowl]

India has a huge rape problem. No need to deny or apologize for it.

indian population is 1.23 billion. more people more problem.. and more potential to tackle such problem.

But rape is not a big problem.. it is showed big. In west , rape is more prevalent.

German Letter,

An Indians reply

So again Britishers are successful in creating diplomatic rift between India and Germany .. hats of to people of both the country and really admire the minds of britishers

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

So again Britishers are successful in creating diplomatic rift between India and Germany .. hats of to people of both the country and really admire the minds of britishers

If Indians are Germans are foolish enough to be manipulated by the British, then kudos to them

But its rather simplistic to blame the British.

 

[Screambowl]

If Indians are Germans are foolish enough to be manipulated by the British, then kudos to them

But its rather simplistic to blame the British.

Rape film could further hurt Denmark-India ties - The Local

see this

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Rape film could further hurt Denmark-India ties - The Local

see this

Giving shelter to a Gun Runner criminal is a lot worse than screening a movie.

 

[sancho]

You still think, no damage was done, or this Psy ops was not part of BBC plan?

Of course not, but people who don't want to understand the content of the docu doesn't really care right?
India's image took a bigger hit by the governments recent bans and restrictions of basic rights, because it makes India look backwards and not like a vibrant democracy. Western media praised India during and after the elections, simply because they were amazed with what efficiency such huge elections were done and what commitment the Indian voter through all classes showed to democracy and the right to vote.

P.S. "Psy-ops" Hilarious

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Of course not, but people who don't want to understand the content of the docu doesn't really care right?
India's image took a bigger hit by the governments recent bans and restrictions of basic rights, because it makes India look backwards and not like a vibrant democracy. Western media praised India during and after the elections, simply because they were amazed with what efficiency such huge elections were done and what commitment the Indian voter through all classes showed to democracy and the right to vote.

P.S. "Psy-ops" Hilarious

Considering IB is investigating, it not all that Hilarious. Maybe you need to recalibrate your funny bone.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Of course not, but people who don't want to understand the content of the docu doesn't really care right?
India's image took a bigger hit by the governments recent bans and restrictions of basic rights, because it makes India look backwards and not like a vibrant democracy. Western media praised India during and after the elections, simply because they were amazed with what efficiency such huge elections were done and what commitment the Indian voter through all classes showed to democracy and the right to vote.

P.S. "Psy-ops" Hilarious

Ahh yes, India's image took a big hit, because the present Government chose to ban NGO's which were working against the interests of the nation,chose to stop diplomatic dialogue with Pakistan who were meeting separatists while meeting Indian government at the same time.
Chose to do "Make in India" campaign to decrease our dependence on foreign nations during times of war.
Chose to fast track Armed forces modernization process.
Chose to make Sarkari babus come on time to job and work overtime.
Chose to call "A spade a spade" ,with propaganda film makers like the one employed by BBC.

Yes what bad a country we are, who chose to implement such things?

Of course it is Psy-Ops.The sole reason people like you are supporting such issue is because you were effectively brainwashed and are buying the propaganda of the West.

War nowadays is fought in "Hearts and Minds" not on battlefield.

 

[Screambowl]

Of course not, but people who don't want to understand the content of the docu doesn't really care right?
India's image took a bigger hit by the governments recent bans and restrictions of basic rights, because it makes India look backwards and not like a vibrant democracy. Western media praised India during and after the elections, simply because they were amazed with what efficiency such huge elections were done and what commitment the Indian voter through all classes showed to democracy and the right to vote.

P.S. "Psy-ops" Hilarious

It is indeed Psywar,. A documentary made by british, creates troublesome exchange of mails between germans and indians. Well how more foolish one can be to ignore this fact. It is a deliberate act of England who have taken this on their ego, how dare India ban the screening.
How many Indians can go inside any English jail to shoot a documentary? Why don't they make documentary first on their citizens. This is absolutely not acceptable. The BBC has played it's card with backing from English government.

 

[About.to.be.banned]

I don't necessarily disagree.

But why then, is the Western/International media only focusing on India for this issue lately?

I read the international news every day after reading my local news, they seem to have a fetish for social problems in India, especially this issue.

Introspection is good, if it is kept within the country itself.

But hyping it up in the international media is just giving a bad image. It hurts tourism, and also ends up with situations like in the OP where Indians get discriminated against.

What else, but to tear down a rising economy. Indian culture is its biggest strength. It is the traditional family structure which has supported the rise of its educated masses. Taint the culture, kill the tradition, family, and then India will be a broken society like West and instead of churning out Engineers, Scientists, and Doctors, India would be churning out drug addicts, alcoholics, and criminals like in the West. It is as simple as that.

Rather than preaching that 'critcism is accepted in a mature society' , West and it's lackies ( Left-Liberal Indians) should practise it. Yes, whenever some critcism is made against British rule or even their media, whole crowd like clueless men start their cacophony.These revisionists blame weather for things like Bengal famines when no such famine took place in India after 47 and even when farming methods were primitive in that part.



Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger of Leipzig University in Free State of Saxony had rejected the internship application, saying she does not accept any Indian male student for internship.
“Unfortunately I don’t accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India which I cannot support. I have many female students in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support,” Sickinger said in a reported email.

This is level of knowledge and logic of someone in a University. If German Professors can say such stupid things, it is natural that average Westerner would even be more biased and ignorant.


BTW, what German Ambassador said does not matter, they also apologize for Islam, does not matter. Just political compulsion, real mindset came to surface accidentally



Things are relative, if a country with 10 million people sees 2 murders daily, it is not big deal compared to South Africa but it is a serious concern in India. Indian state of Uttar Pradesh saw a murder rate of less than 3 per hundred thousand population in 2012 which is less than 'civilized' Western nations like US, Mexico, Russia etc. yet every political party and Indian media made a noise on how UP is 'jungle raj' and such. Clueless journalists pick up such headlines and spread false information.

Compared to South America, USA, Mexico and Central America, all parts of Africa except Arab Islamic parts. Eastern Europe, Central Asia and SE Asia, intentional homicide rate in India is quite low.

Now unless one can prove that Indians are very peaceful and hold life as precious but at same time are rapists as compared to West, this alone closes the case.

East Asia and West Europe have low homicide rate because they are ultra rich and level of police efficiency is higher. You can not get any place apart from UP and Bihar with a per capita GDP less than 1000 dollars and yet having murder rate so low.


No matter how much I am hated by people here but fact of the matter is that rapes are not a major problem in India at all. Ofcourse, unlike murders, westerners and their Indian lackeys can give excuse 'rapes are not recorded that much' but then that is stupid argument. Non one can ever find out real data at all, even if india in reality sees lowest rape, by this logic, one can always say that rapes are high and they are not recorded.

If you open any newspaper headlines, you would find items like rapes or thefts on front pages, do you know why? Because they are rare,like killings in US in terror acts like Marathon are rare and so they occur but some 20-30 people killed in Syria everyday do not occur at all.

The so called Nirbhaya case was unneccessarily highlighted, any society can have a certain number of people who may do any atrocity, to say that society is having any problem is just stupid. Rapes existed in Satyuga and they would exist in future, point is their frequency and India is better there than many large nations except China.

I have already shown that crimes in general are interrelated, a society having higher murder rate is less likely to have low rape rate and vice versa. Exception might be made for 'pious ghazis' as they kill but do not rape that much atleast fellow religionists.

Seen by this, rapes in India as recorded are closer to reality than some imaginative figures.

Finally, rapes are generally correlated with increasing promiscuity. Any idiot can see this except leftists. I am not saying that only promiscous ones are raped, simply that a society where promiscuity is norm, rapes would be higher than in places which are not promiscous. You can steal easily but can not kill that easily because you have grown up in society where life is considered valuable and violence is frowned upon. similarly, if you point a gun at some brother and force him to slap his sister, he may easily do this but if you force him to rape his sibling, he may prefer death. Point is that people in general do not violate things they consider sacred. Since in patriarchal societies, honour depends on things like chastity of women, people in general would be less inclined to violate that than in other societies.

I have data in support of my case. It is usual to talk about 'repression in India causing rapes'. Well, we all can see that Africans that is Bantus of Zimbabwe, South Africa etc. certainly do not hold chastity in high regard as compared to Indians and rape rates are quite high there. Males there are not 'repressed' at all.

HIV rates and rapes are correlated most of times. And it has been proven that rape rates are generally correlated with crime. Since India has both low crime rates and HIV rates, we can conclude that rape is no serious problem in India, it gets highlighted because it is rare.


In last, remember my words, rapes in India would only increase with time as more years pass, more westernisation and increasing promiscuity will increase and so would rapes. Crimes in India since times of Sleeman and Elphinstone have only increased.


These are extracts from reply of an Indian to westerners on another forum (these are not mine).


@MokshaVimukthi @SarthakGanguly @levina @nair @sancho @wolfschanzze @The Great One

 

[Screambowl]

Rather than preaching that 'critcism is accepted in a mature society' , West and it's lackies ( Left-Liberal Indians) should practise it. Yes, whenever some critcism is made against British rule or even their media, whole crowd like clueless men start their cacophony.These revisionists blame weather for things like Bengal famines when no such famine took place in India after 47 and even when farming methods were primitive in that part.



Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger of Leipzig University in Free State of Saxony had rejected the internship application, saying she does not accept any Indian male student for internship.
“Unfortunately I don’t accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India which I cannot support. I have many female students in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support,” Sickinger said in a reported email.

This is level of knowledge and logic of someone in a University. If German Professors can say such stupid things, it is natural that average Westerner would even be more biased and ignorant.


BTW, what German Ambassador said does not matter, they also apologize for Islam, does not matter. Just political compulsion, real mindset came to surface accidentally



Things are relative, if a country with 10 million people sees 2 murders daily, it is not big deal compared to South Africa but it is a serious concern in India. Indian state of Uttar Pradesh saw a murder rate of less than 3 per hundred thousand population in 2012 which is less than 'civilized' Western nations like US, Mexico, Russia etc. yet every political party and Indian media made a noise on how UP is 'jungle raj' and such. Clueless journalists pick up such headlines and spread false information.

Compared to South America, USA, Mexico and Central America, all parts of Africa except Arab Islamic parts. Eastern Europe, Central Asia and SE Asia, intentional homicide rate in India is quite low.

Now unless one can prove that Indians are very peaceful and hold life as precious but at same time are rapists as compared to West, this alone closes the case.

East Asia and West Europe have low homicide rate because they are ultra rich and level of police efficiency is higher. You can not get any place apart from UP and Bihar with a per capita GDP less than 1000 dollars and yet having murder rate so low.


No matter how much I am hated by people here but fact of the matter is that
rapes are not a major problem in India at all. Ofcourse, unlike murders, westerners and their Indian lackeys can give excuse 'rapes are not recorded that much' but then that is stupid argument. Non one can ever find out real data at all, even if india in reality sees lowest rape, by this logic, one can always say that rapes are high and they are not recorded.

If you open any newspaper headlines, you would find items like rapes or thefts on front pages, do you know why? Because they are rare,like killings in US in terror acts like Marathon are rare and so they occur but some 20-30 people killed in Syria everyday do not occur at all.

The so called Nirbhaya case was unneccessarily highlighted, any society can have a certain number of people who may do any atrocity, to say that society is having any problem is just stupid. Rapes existed in Satyuga and they would exist in future, point is their frequency and India is better there than many large nations except China.

I have already shown that crimes in general are interrelated, a society having higher murder rate is less likely to have low rape rate and vice versa. Exception might be made for 'pious ghazis' as they kill but do not rape that much atleast fellow religionists.

Seen by this, rapes in India as recorded are closer to reality than some imaginative figures.

Finally, rapes are generally correlated with increasing promiscuity. Any idiot can see this except leftists. I am not saying that only promiscous ones are raped, simply that a society where promiscuity is norm, rapes would be higher than in places which are not promiscous. You can steal easily but can not kill that easily because you have grown up in society where life is considered valuable and violence is frowned upon. similarly, if you point a gun at some brother and force him to slap his sister, he may easily do this but if you force him to rape his sibling, he may prefer death. Point is that people in general do not violate things they consider sacred. Since in patriarchal societies, honour depends on things like chastity of women, people in general would be less inclined to violate that than in other societies.

I have data in support of my case. It is usual to talk about 'repression in India causing rapes'. Well, we all can see that Africans that is Bantus of Zimbabwe, South Africa etc. certainly do not hold chastity in high regard as compared to Indians and rape rates are quite high there. Males there are not 'repressed' at all.

HIV rates and rapes are correlated most of times. And it has been proven that rape rates are generally correlated with crime. Since India has both low crime rates and HIV rates, we can conclude that rape is no serious problem in India, it gets highlighted because it is rare.


In last, remember my words, rapes in India would only increase with time as more years pass, more westernisation and increasing promiscuity will increase and so would rapes. Crimes in India since times of Sleeman and Elphinstone have only increased.


These are extracts from reply of an Indian to westerners on another forum (these are not mine).


@MokshaVimukthi @SarthakGanguly @levina @nair @sancho @wolfschanzze and my fellow AAPtard @The Great One

Let us not say that it is India Vs Germany or India Vs Denmark... It is just India Vs Britain. These Firangs have take this on their ego , how dare India ban their documentary. Now they are trying to Isolate India.

 

[sancho]

It is indeed Psywar,. A documentary made by british,

Guys please watch the following documentary with HIGH CAUTION!!! It's another attempt of the BBC to degrade Indias image and a spy ops to make us look bad. How can they send their people to India an make a documentary about us!!!

I hope the government ask youtube to ban this too!

 

[Bitter Melon]

Rather than preaching that 'critcism is accepted in a mature society' , West and it's lackies ( Left-Liberal Indians) should practise it. Yes, whenever some critcism is made against British rule or even their media, whole crowd like clueless men start their cacophony.These revisionists blame weather for things like Bengal famines when no such famine took place in India after 47 and even when farming methods were primitive in that part.



Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger of Leipzig University in Free State of Saxony had rejected the internship application, saying she does not accept any Indian male student for internship.
“Unfortunately I don’t accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India which I cannot support. I have many female students in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support,” Sickinger said in a reported email.

This is level of knowledge and logic of someone in a University. If German Professors can say such stupid things, it is natural that average Westerner would even be more biased and ignorant.


BTW, what German Ambassador said does not matter, they also apologize for Islam, does not matter. Just political compulsion, real mindset came to surface accidentally



Things are relative, if a country with 10 million people sees 2 murders daily, it is not big deal compared to South Africa but it is a serious concern in India. Indian state of Uttar Pradesh saw a murder rate of less than 3 per hundred thousand population in 2012 which is less than 'civilized' Western nations like US, Mexico, Russia etc. yet every political party and Indian media made a noise on how UP is 'jungle raj' and such. Clueless journalists pick up such headlines and spread false information.

Compared to South America, USA, Mexico and Central America, all parts of Africa except Arab Islamic parts. Eastern Europe, Central Asia and SE Asia, intentional homicide rate in India is quite low.

Now unless one can prove that Indians are very peaceful and hold life as precious but at same time are rapists as compared to West, this alone closes the case.

East Asia and West Europe have low homicide rate because they are ultra rich and level of police efficiency is higher. You can not get any place apart from UP and Bihar with a per capita GDP less than 1000 dollars and yet having murder rate so low.


No matter how much I am hated by people here but fact of the matter is that
rapes are not a major problem in India at all. Ofcourse, unlike murders, westerners and their Indian lackeys can give excuse 'rapes are not recorded that much' but then that is stupid argument. Non one can ever find out real data at all, even if india in reality sees lowest rape, by this logic, one can always say that rapes are high and they are not recorded.

If you open any newspaper headlines, you would find items like rapes or thefts on front pages, do you know why? Because they are rare,like killings in US in terror acts like Marathon are rare and so they occur but some 20-30 people killed in Syria everyday do not occur at all.

The so called Nirbhaya case was unneccessarily highlighted, any society can have a certain number of people who may do any atrocity, to say that society is having any problem is just stupid. Rapes existed in Satyuga and they would exist in future, point is their frequency and India is better there than many large nations except China.

I have already shown that crimes in general are interrelated, a society having higher murder rate is less likely to have low rape rate and vice versa. Exception might be made for 'pious ghazis' as they kill but do not rape that much atleast fellow religionists.

Seen by this, rapes in India as recorded are closer to reality than some imaginative figures.

Finally, rapes are generally correlated with increasing promiscuity. Any idiot can see this except leftists. I am not saying that only promiscous ones are raped, simply that a society where promiscuity is norm, rapes would be higher than in places which are not promiscous. You can steal easily but can not kill that easily because you have grown up in society where life is considered valuable and violence is frowned upon. similarly, if you point a gun at some brother and force him to slap his sister, he may easily do this but if you force him to rape his sibling, he may prefer death. Point is that people in general do not violate things they consider sacred. Since in patriarchal societies, honour depends on things like chastity of women, people in general would be less inclined to violate that than in other societies.

I have data in support of my case. It is usual to talk about 'repression in India causing rapes'. Well, we all can see that Africans that is Bantus of Zimbabwe, South Africa etc. certainly do not hold chastity in high regard as compared to Indians and rape rates are quite high there. Males there are not 'repressed' at all.

HIV rates and rapes are correlated most of times. And it has been proven that rape rates are generally correlated with crime. Since India has both low crime rates and HIV rates, we can conclude that rape is no serious problem in India, it gets highlighted because it is rare.


In last, remember my words, rapes in India would only increase with time as more years pass, more westernisation and increasing promiscuity will increase and so would rapes. Crimes in India since times of Sleeman and Elphinstone have only increased.


These are extracts from reply of an Indian to westerners on another forum (these are not mine).


@MokshaVimukthi @SarthakGanguly @levina @nair @sancho @wolfschanzze and my fellow AAPtard @The Great One

Echoes my thoughts on the subject. It has always been so.

Guys please watch the following documentary with HIGH CAUTION!!! It's another attempt of the BBC to degrade Indias image and a spy ops to make us look bad. How can they send their people to India an make a documentary about us!!!

I hope the government ask youtube to ban this too!

Hey you found a good bone they have thrown. Now be happy they so much love your food. All those stories and legends they spread around claiming Indians used spices to mask the rotten meat smell in their food is forgiven.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Guys please watch the following documentary with HIGH CAUTION!!! It's another attempt of the BBC to degrade Indias image and a spy ops to make us look bad. How can they send their people to India an make a documentary about us!!!

I hope the government ask youtube to ban this too!

You must be so delighted that a white man is admiring your food ................ no wonder you enjoy them rubbing you face in it as well..

 

[jaatram]

Of course not, but people who don't want to understand the content of the docu doesn't really care right?
India's image took a bigger hit by the governments recent bans and restrictions of basic rights, because it makes India look backwards and not like a vibrant democracy. Western media praised India during and after the elections, simply because they were amazed with what efficiency such huge elections were done and what commitment the Indian voter through all classes showed to democracy and the right to vote.

P.S. "Psy-ops" Hilarious

It was not a ban, the case is still in the court. Hence they wanted to stay the release of the documentary, till the trial is over. But yeah following the law of the land is a sign of backwardness and lack of vibrant democracy. Great.