India is modern, admits top Pak envoy to US

[Neo]

Neo,
I said 3% non-Muslims. That includes Hindus,Christians,Parsi,Sikhs etc.
I agree there is obvious increase in population of Pakistan. But then how can there be such a reduction of 16-17% in 48 to 3% now?
Don't you think there will some proportional growth as well? How come it is not there?

Population growth is not simple x+y math isn't it?

Dude, I don't have the exact figs but lets say Pakistans population was 40 million in 1947 including all religions. Three and half million hindus or 8.75% left, now add 3.5 million muslims that came to Pakistan so the total remains est 40 million.
17% (non muslims) of 40 million is roughly 7 million, deduct 3.5 million that migrated to India you're left with 3.5 million, thats again 8.75%
Now muslim paopulation has grown rapidly causing further decrease in %.

I won't deny that a number of minorities preferred to leave Pakistan. Thats their choice.

 

[Awesome]

A few more nitpickings before I go.
In a country where most people are moderate I'd expect this to be a huge electoral issue.



If you don't know - don't speak about it. You're just not qualified.

figure of speech, Sam.

India is a democracy where the motto "By the people, of the people, for the people" can just go to a ditch. It's by the Hindus, of the Hindus, for the Hindus.

 

[EagleEyes]

If it has to more to do with the debate than just blaming each other. It doesn't takes less than two minutes.

Conclusion in the end is we all have bad apples. So measurement should rather stop.

 

[con]

Dude the Muslim world is not in a state to get involved in other Muslim state's affairs and settle them down. If we were that brilliant we wouldn't have allowed others to meddle around in our affairs in the first place.

Sorry to say but history and current situation says something else.
There is enough example of Muslims countries meddling in other Muslims countries internal affairs in Middle East.

This is the reason for the instability in Middle East,which the Americans and Israel so well exploit.

 

[Neo]

Ouch......

 

[EagleEyes]

Sorry to say but history and current situation says something else.
There is enough example of Muslims countries meddling in other Muslims countries internal affairs in Middle East.

This is the reason for the instability in Middle East,which the Americans and Israel so well exploit.

I seriously have to see some examples.

 

[Awesome]

So what? 50% of the Hindu majority countries are meddling into other people's affairs too! Are 50% of Muslim countries meddling into other people's affairs?

90% of the world's Hindu population is support cutting open pregnant bellies... "DEMOCRATICALLY".

Go ahead make more ridiculous comparisons, I can throw each and every argument right back at ya! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN US! Get off your high horse, "modern India!".

 

[con]

I won't deny that a number of minorities preferred to leave Pakistan. Thats their choice.

And why? Do you think it is only a matter of choice?

As Asim as said about the constitution bars non-Muslims from heading the state,can there be other "undeclared" oppression of minorities in Pakistani society?
The constitution rule is an official Pakistani Government stand. Does Indian government have any such official rule over minorities?

Hence my statement that about a Pakistani minister commenting about secularism in India.

 

[con]

So what? 50% of the Hindu majority countries are meddling into other people's affairs too! Are 50% of Muslim countries meddling into other people's affairs?

90% of the world's Hindu population is support cutting open pregnant bellies... "DEMOCRATICALLY".

Go ahead make more ridiculous comparisons, I can throw each and every argument right back at ya! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN US! Get off your high horse, "modern India!".

There is no horse riding here.
just a little "mirror showing" when some people keeping bringing Gujarat in every discussion.

So a little comparison from Indians is ridiculous? Come on mate. You cannot decide on what is classified as genocide and also call other's arguments as ridiculous. Can't have the cake and eat it too.

And the about 90% .... nonsense..
should I make a statement that 90% Muslims support blowing off innocent people by flying airplanes into buildings..sounds nonsense isn't it. It is.

when you are so confident about throwing back each and every arguement...why the rant then?

 

[Neo]

And why? Do you think it is only a matter of choice?

Yes its only a matter of choice, I don't recall any minorities being deported from Pakistan.

 

[con]

I seriously have to see some examples.

hmm..
Webby,
Why is conflict in Lebanon now?
Why was Syrian forces withdrawn from Lebanon?
Why did Iran-Iraq war happen?
Why did Iraq invade Kuwait and Saudi?
Isn't what is happening in Iraq today is also a domination game about Iran v/s Saudi ?

 

[Neo]

You said Hammmmm...what thf is a hammmm

 

[con]

You said Hammmmm...what thf is a hammmm

recalling thoughts

 

[Awesome]

hmm..
Webby,
Why is conflict in Lebanon now?

Because there is pressure on Lebanon to do something about the militants.

Why was Syrian forces withdrawn from Lebanon?

Ok why?

Why did Iran-Iraq war happen?

Us gave Iran weapons, then when Iran was bad it wanted to make them use it, it gave Iraq weapons, to fight Iran, then Iraq was fought and so on...

Why did Iraq invade Kuwait and Saudi?

Territories Iraq claimed/claims its own.

Isn't what is happening in Iraq today is also a domination game about Iran v/s Saudi ?

More like the more capable one filling up a void. A void which was previously occupied by seculars.

This thread was Pak vs India, your rant is not.

This thread is headed downhill.