India is a Hindu nation: RSS chief

[Gabbar]

India is a Hindu nation: RSS chief

Jaipur: The RSS said on Tuesday that Hindutva is the "identity" of the country and asked the people to be proud of it.

"Our identity is Hindutva and the people should be proud of it. The society should work for removal of evils and the welfare of the country," RSS chief Mohan Rao Bhagwat said while addressing volunteers at a gathering in Jaipur. "India is a Hindu nation, which is an eternal fact," he claimed.

Bhagwat said shaping the present "modern" society along the lines of traditional Hindu culture and traditions will be the ideal route to social welfare.

He said the RSS wants to make people "responsible, and dedicated" towards the nation, which, according to him, was above all.

"Creating a well-cultured society is our aim and not contesting elections or winning seats," Bhagwat said.

During the discourse, the RSS chief said the poll season has come and there will be plenty of assurances from candidates to seek votes, but, after winning elections, they will appear only before the next polls. He met Kanchi Peeth Shankracharya Jayendra Saraswati in Jaipur on Monday when he visited the city.


India is a Hindu nation: RSS chief

 

[Energon]

There are so many things wrong with these (obviously moronic) declarations that I don't know where to begin. I must first take some time out to laugh at the RSS chief, his supposed ideology and his creativity when it comes to making up facts, eternal or otherwise.

He said the RSS wants to make people "responsible, and dedicated" towards the nation, which, according to him, was above all.

"Creating a well-cultured society is our aim and not contesting elections or winning seats," Bhagwat said.

George Orwell elucidated the intrinsic stupidity of this premise 60 years ago which the RSS chief is obviously unaware of (or else he wouldn't be publicly spouting these retarded notions). Being oblivious to the basic tenets of fascism and it's inherent fallacies that assure a colossal disaster in the event of its pursuit automatically disqualifies any person from proclaiming himself as a "leader".

 

[Lockheed F-16]

I wonder when the Indian muslims will wake up. They experienced Gujrat Genocide and other riots against them but still don't act. If they support India, they'll support the destruction of themselves. I guess they still want some lessons to learn

 

[Energon]

I wonder when the Indian muslims will wake up. They experienced Gujrat Genocide and other riots against them but still don't act. If they support India, they'll support the destruction of themselves. I guess they still want some lessons to learn

Your comment is as dumb as the one being made by the RSS chief.

 

[jeypore]

Not trying to defend RSS on this regards because I completly disagree with there statement, but in the United States, it is proclaimed as not a specific religious states, yet there ideals and morals where based on Christainity. Some of the excerpt:

1892 - The Supreme Court of the United States after citing 87 precedents decided: "Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of Mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise: and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian ... This is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation ... we find everywhere a clear recognition of the same truth. These and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation."

1787 - James Madison, the "architect" of the federal Constitution and fourth president:

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future .. upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God."

December 20, 1820 - Daniel Webster, Plymouth Massachusetts:

"Let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers brought hither their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate ... and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political and literary."

July 4, 1821 - John Quincy Adams:

"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. From the day of the Declaration ... they (the American people) were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of the Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledged as the rules of their conduct."

you can find more here: Are We a Christian Nation

 

[Gabbar]

LJP to ban RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal if it comes to power

Promising amendments in the Constitution to make Right to Work and Health as fundamental rights, Lok Janshakti Party (LJP) on Tuesday said it would ban the RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal if it comes to power in the country.

Party secretary general Abdul Khaliq while releasing the manifesto told reporters that LJP will also support formation of smaller states like Telengana, Vidarbha, Vikas Pradesh (western UP) and Bundelkhand.

The party also promised reservation for the economically disadvantaged in government service and a quota for women in legislative bodies.

LJP said it would amend the Constitution to enable 15 per cent reservation for minorities, including 10 per cent for Muslims.

The party said it would offer "leakage proof reservations for SCs and STs, SC status for Dalit Muslims and Dalit Christians and land for landless poor belonging to SC and ST communities."

LJP would also give reservations in supplies, dealerships and private sector, extension of reservations in judicial services, revamping of development plan for SCs and STs to ensure proportionate allocation of resources to fast track their all-round development, it said.

The party also promised modernisation of armed forces, expeditious consideration of 'one rank one pension' for them, containment of terrorism and national security guided foreign policy.

 

[zombie]

So isnt Turkey a muslim nation? Whats the percentage of minorities there? What about Indonesia or even Bangladesh?

 

[Gabbar]

So isnt Turkey a muslim nation? Whats the percentage of minorities there? What about Indonesia or even Bangladesh?

It's not about percentage zombie. It's about ideology of a country. India is democratic and SECULAR nation, at least we claim to be. Pakistan is or was demotratic and is Islamic nation, not because of percentage of muslims, it's because what that nation is stand for. RSS caiming that India is a Hindu nation measn it's not secualr and it is Hindu federation.

 

[jeypore]

It's not about percentage zombie. It's about ideology of a country. India is democratic and SECULAR nation, at least we claim to be. Pakistan is or was demotratic and is Islamic nation, not because of percentage of muslims, it's because what that nation is stand for. RSS caiming that India is a Hindu nation measn it's not secualr and it is Hindu federation.

Gabbar, you are taking this the wrong way, I have posted above what united states have said and based there ideology of the country. Even though US today is consider as secular country. There majority laws are based by Christianity.

 

[Gabbar]

Gabbar, you are taking this the wrong way, I have posted above what united states have said and based there ideology of the country. Even though US today is consider as secular country. There majority laws are based by Christianity.

It's obious because there is area between LosAngels and New York, the reall America, at least lots of people looks that way. South is deepley religious and republicans control that area. When ever Republicas comes to power thay change the rule, ex: stem cell, abortion, gay marriage etc. Even some democrates considers them to be deeply religious. But they are secular and try not to impose thier religion. Does religion imfluence thier decisions?, yes. But you are still muslim if you are muslim, you are still Sikh if you choose Sikhism and same goes for Jews, Hindus and Budhists.

On other hand RSS is ultra-right wing party with many wings. RSS considers all people of India and sub-continent to be Hindus and want change in the constitution and history books to reflect that.

 

[Beskar]

Well at least someone's admitting what "Hindustaan" is all about.

 

[Gabbar]

Well at least someone's admitting what "Hindustaan" is all about.

I dont get it dude.

 

[zombie]

It's not about percentage zombie. It's about ideology of a country. India is democratic and SECULAR nation, at least we claim to be. Pakistan is or was demotratic and is Islamic nation, not because of percentage of muslims, it's because what that nation is stand for. RSS caiming that India is a Hindu nation measn it's not secualr and it is Hindu federation.

Gabbar, All the countries I quoted are secular and democratic and muslim nations. I didnt quote pakistan.

 

[Neo]

I'd never heard of anything called hindutva till a few years back when I started posting in international fora. But the ideology has gained terrain, not only Indian media but also prominent political leaders and parties are promoting it.

This is a serious threat for secularsim, can India continue to ignore calls for hindutva revival? Where is this all going...?

 

[jeypore]

It's obious because there is area between LosAngels and New York, the reall America, at least lots of people looks that way. South is deepley religious and republicans control that area. When ever Republicas comes to power thay change the rule, ex: stem cell, abortion, gay marriage etc. Even some democrates considers them to be deeply religious. But they are secular and try not to impose thier religion, religion imfluence thier decisions?, yes. But you are still muslim if you are muslim, you are still Sikh if you choose Sikhism and same goes for Jews, Hindus and Budhists.

On other hand RSS is ultra-right wing party with many wings. RSS considers all people of India and sub-continent to be Hindus and want change in the constitution and history books to reflect that.

Mr. Gabbar, what do you think when some says "He is far to the right"? A perfect example is Rush Limbaugh. What you think that person ideals are? In a secular society you have two extremes and majority are in the middle. I am condeming RSS as well as to the far right, and as well as people to the far left like Al Sharpton, who cries out racism at every little incident, but in a democractic society this comes with the territory.